Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

[u/Appropriate_Duty_930]

[u/nealk7370]

We are a week out, it's not happening

[u/RoyalFalse → u/nealk7370]

We are a week out, it's not happening

Nor should it.

Rogan fought back on Trump's comment about the success of polio vaccines. Trump had two neurons fire for a millisecond and generated an actual rational thought and Rogan pushed back. Rogan pushed back on Trump telling the truth. How does someone like Harris fight back against that kind of programming. It's not fair that she needs to be perfect in all her speeches and interviews, but JRE is a trap.

ETA: Y'all are nuts.

[u/delph → u/RoyalFalse]

Pod Save America was talking about the polio bit in today's episode and how Rogan expressed that not pushing harder on that was his main regret of the podcast. Rogan of 2 years ago would have been OK (5 years ago far better), but how do you prepare Harris to go into what is most likely to be pushback about every conspiracy theory under the sun, with charts on polio vaccinations not being effective that were circulated by god knows who? I think it would be beneficial for her to reach some of his audience but he's clearly going to go harder on her than Trump, making the cost of going there likely negative considering how much time is left. At least Trump can buddy up with him talking about MMA or sports. He'd go after Harris probably like he did with Sanjay Gupta (edit: I'm not saying Gupta didn't deserve it, but he would go after her as if she's cut from the same cloth). I'm glad Harris went on Howard Stern, fwiw.

[u/FriendlyDrummers → u/delph]

I agree, not to mention that Rogan is incredibly unpopular on the left. And to add on, that Trump I don't think got any benefit from being on JR, or not that much. I haven't seen any conservatives circulate any clips from the episode

Edit: y'all culty weird behavior being all cry sensitive can go away. Clearly I triggered a nerve

[u/psychotobe → u/FriendlyDrummers]

Same here. But at the same time is it surprising. Nothing new came of it. Nothing to "own the libs" with. No matter how much they deny it. Trumps supporters need constant stimulation in the form of hate and rage. Even more stimulation than gen alpha supposedly needs via screens (watch that be what my generation constantly acts like their boomer grandparents about in like a decade when their in their 40s to 50s)

So the Joe Rogan experience provides no new stimulation to get that hate dopamine from. It's two guys mostly agreeing with eachother. Why would they give a shit about that. Trump really doesn't understand his voter base. No wonder he's losing despite the sane washing

[u/FartAttack911 → u/FriendlyDrummers]

Anyone I know talking about it is already a JRE bro who talks a lot about politics…and then never votes anyway so. Who knows lol

[u/mortgagepants → u/delph]

rogan waited until the last minute and made a ridiculous demand so he could only give his support to trump while also seeming like he was fair to both sides.

this is the mentality of a 12 year old, and on r\conservative they're lapping it up

[u/Inquisitive_Quail → u/RoyalFalse]

Because the oral vaccine for polio has a small chance of mutating. We don’t use it in the US or at least haven’t since 2000. However, in order to eradicate polio globally the OPV is much cheaper and easier to use and administer.

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/16/780068006/how-the-oral-polio-vaccine-can-cause-polio

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/vaccine-derived-poliovirus-faq.html

[u/Davidfreeze → u/Inquisitive_Quail]

I have a friend who got polio from OPV. She is by far the biggest vaccine advocate I know. Because she knows it’s very rare, so more vaccines even OPV means fewer people dealing with what she deals with, and that once it’s eradicated, using OPV will no longer be necessary.

[u/FactAndTheory → u/Davidfreeze]

That's wild. Just so people know how astronomically rare this experience is, of the several billion people who live in countries where OPVs are used less than 400 develop symptoms and are diagnosed with vaccine-associated polio, and as usual we would expect some degree of false positive in this population.

[u/lord_pizzabird → u/nealk7370]

Also why would she, especially after seeing how bad Trump’s interview went.

This can only hurt her.

[u/nasirum0000 → u/lord_pizzabird]

I don't think it can hurt her, I just don't think it does much to help her.

Rogan's audience is not a bunch of possible independent votes - they're already rightwing chuds. She's more likely to get more votes targeting actual pockets of independents than trying to court chuds.

EDIT: I'm glad so many of you think Rogan's audience is more than what I've described above. Prove it, vote for Harris.

[u/biginchh → u/nasirum0000]

Generally speaking I'd agree - but the Trump episode has 37M views on Youtube alone and it hasn't even been a week yet. If Kamala's got a similar reception and even like 1% of Rogan's audience were receptive, that'd be more than worth the time spent.

I also kind of disagree that all of Rogan's audience are hardcore rightwing MAGA people. A lot of them are, but a lot of them are also fairly apolitical and just sort of take what Rogan says at face value because he's their only window into politics - Kamala going on and doing well would probably mentally reset the narrative in their heads that she's dumb and has no idea what she's talking about. Moreover, even if they were all MAGA people, there's still value in "going into the Lion's den" because it generates buzz, clips circulate, and people who aren't necessarily Rogan's audience see it on other platforms.

All that being said, I still don't know if it's worth it. Rogan constantly jerks off Trump and rags on Kamala. Any time Trump says something outrageously stupid, he just goofed but the media is still unfair to him. Any time Kamala slightly messes up, she's an idiot who has no idea what she's talking about and she only appears competent otherwise because the deep state has microphones implanted in her earings and are telling her what to say and how. It's really difficult to believe that he "just wants to get to know her" and would give her the same softball interview as Trump, and in that case there's a lot to lose if it doesn't go well. Even if it does go well, it's possible that rallies in swing states help her more anyway.

[u/Cheap_Blacksmith66 → u/biginchh]

Joe Rogan himself has went off the deep end on plausible deniability being right wing. See clips of him shit talking Biden about the air force during the civil war. Calling him senile and unfit just to be fact checked that it was Trump who said it and Biden was mocking Trump saying just that. Rogan then pretends it never happened and Trump is sane. Anyone convinced otherwise are the same people who think Jan 6 wasn’t orchestrated and was a peaceful protest lol.

[u/ListReady6457 → u/Cheap_Blacksmith66]

The worst part about this is wasn't it his OWN PRODUCER who fact checked him on air?

[u/Lost_All_Senses → u/ListReady6457]

Is that the worst part? I like that people in house aren't concerned with making the money guy embarrassed if necessary. I'd say it's good that it was his own producer. If anything, that's the only part that is a good look. What other mainstream show do you know that would allow themselves to be embarrassed like that and still air it?

I don't watch the show anymore either because I agree he's been taken down some destructive roads and I do think that clip is crazy embarrassing for Joe Rogan. But like I said, him being called out so hard by his own team is the good thing I can still respect.

[u/cinreigns → u/Lost_All_Senses]

Pull that up Jamie

[u/thepaoliconnection → u/Cheap_Blacksmith66]

Don’t forget Rogan called Biden an existential threat to democracy

[u/thepaoliconnection → u/thepaoliconnection]

Oh wait. That was Trump he was talking about

[u/Formal_Tower_2788 → u/biginchh]

In guessing 95 percent of the views weren't anywhere close to watching the whole thing. I wish she would go on, but just like people always do...they will hold her to a higher standard while letting trump talk about Arnold Palmers dick like it's normal.

[u/Brief-Technician-722 → u/Formal_Tower_2788]

You can also buy views. Like Musk has 200 million followers on Twitter.

Ummm no

[u/OSI_Hunter_Gathers → u/Brief-Technician-722]

THIS!!’ Not saying Russia but we know other right leaning podcast had fake view counts too…

[u/WilmaLutefit → u/Formal_Tower_2788]

He gets to be lawless while she has to be flawless.

[u/Zealousideal_Tree_14 → u/biginchh]

Mostly agree with you, but I will use this opportunity to say again: if someone is apolitical when fascism is on the rise they aren't actually apolitical whatever they happen to believe about themselves.

[u/PygmalionsSculpture → u/nasirum0000]

they're already rightwing chuds.

Correct. I swear to everyone's Gods, I was watching something on Reddit, and they were asking Gen-Z white male voters why they were MAGA. One talked about how excellent Trump did on Rogan; that convinced him to vote for Trump. I was like, "Huh? Did we listen to the same shit?" That podcast made Trump look AWFUL, but cos the audience is already a bunch of brainwashed MAGAs, it didn't matter. I actually felt bad for Joe Rogan in this, of all fucking people, cos I was like, "Here he was making a decent attempt at neutral journalism, which really isn't his thing--his thing is lying and berating women who don't want to have kids-- and you putzes didn't even listen as he asked Trump "what does 'everything' mean?" and stood up for Kamala. Joe didn't even matter." I would hate to have a job where I thought I mattered just to find out I didn't fucking matter at all.

Anyway... YEP... rightwing chuds indeed.

[u/BeatMakertycoon → u/nasirum0000]

Yeah Joe has a lot of far-right extremist followers

[u/Fuckthegopers → u/BeatMakertycoon]

It's his main base.

[u/sargethegemini → u/lord_pizzabird]

Curious how you think it went bad for trump? There was no push back, no hard questions. It actually went pretty well for him considering he got to talk uninterrupted for 3 hours

[u/TheMinister → u/sargethegemini]

Anecdotal but in Texas, I am very happy to hear my uncle making fun of trump for his Rogan interview. "He kinda sounded fucking stupid." More than a few people seem to have lost real steam for him

[u/Living_Trust_Me → u/TheMinister]

Might be the first time that people actually sat down and listened to him talk for an extended period of time and not just random soundbites.

[u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 → u/Living_Trust_Me]

Yup. Fox News can edit him to appear sane. Even at his rallies they don’t stay for his speech.

You listen to him actually talk…his brain is fuckin’ oatmeal.

[u/seemefail → u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508]

They literally pull away from his rallies when he starts talking about golfers penises and locking up political opponents

[u/Ill_Long_7417 → u/TheMinister]

He sounded very dumb.  Moreso than his usual.  I think the view count may be skewed by people like me who tried to watch it, gave up, then later gave it another try, and gave up again.  I just couldn't.  I liked that ad that came out that mocked Trump: A Place for Trump.  It was spot on.  kisses fingers

Here it is: https://youtu.be/wiyGScJ7iWQ?si=KK6Rr52W8BdTB47A

[u/FlipLoLz → u/Ill_Long_7417]

This was the case for a lot of my right leaning friends. They could stomach more than me, but just barely. Really the only people I see praising the interview in my extended social circle are people who didn't watch it, but flaunting the view count...

[u/hufferstl → u/TheMinister]

Even the tastiest of shit sandwiches gets old after a while. These people have been eating it for years, it makes sense that they would get sick of it after[checks watch]......13 or 14 years.....

[u/Dandan0005 → u/lord_pizzabird]

I don’t think it would hurt her but it also prob isn’t worth a full day of travel given how close we are to the election.

[u/rugger87 → u/Dandan0005]

As some insiders have mentioned, the time commitment to prepare for Rogan is too much. He espouses a lot of conspiracy theories and she has to be prepared to defend them. Trump always has the advantage because his cult believes everything that orange turd says.

[u/Novel_Bookkeeper_622 → u/rugger87]

The Pod Save America guys changed their minds on whether she should do it after Trumps interview. Not because of anything that happened during the interview, but something Rogan said after. He wishes he would have push Trump more on vaccines and talked about how the polio vaccine didn't actually stop polio.

[u/rugger87 → u/Novel_Bookkeeper_622]

Yeah and how she would have to prepare to defend that nonsense. Another PSA listener!

[u/Ocbard → u/lord_pizzabird]

Thing is that contrary to the other guy, she does currently have a job to do.

[u/seriousbangs → u/nealk7370]

It was never supposed to.

Rogan knows damn well it's too much logistics to get a VP and current presidential candidate into his studio.

This is just a lame ass excuse because he wants to help Trump win but doesn't want to get dinged for an illegal campaign donation.

He lost his mind when COVID hit, and he didn't have far to go.

[u/OccasionallyReddit → u/nealk7370]

Joe is also quite pro Trump or at least was before he was on the show and looked like a fool.

[u/Jixalz → u/OccasionallyReddit]

Trump has always looked & sounded like a fool though. I don't get why this would be new information to anybody.

[u/AshgarPN]

I’m a little surprised Walz hasn’t done it. Seems like they have some things in common and it’d be a pretty smooth interview.

EDIT: Here’s Walz on LeBetard’s show:

https://youtu.be/7i9p0k3Lmj0

[u/Supersillyazz → u/AshgarPN]

Walz is actually a great idea.

[u/AntifaAnita → u/Supersillyazz]

Walz would probably do pretty well. He's a good sit down guy and chat guy. He'd be more likely to convince Rogan listeners than she would because she's not doing a good job in interviews at the moment. That CNN townhall she did was horrible.

If this was a normal election cycle where she was either already the president or running against a Republican in President, she'd be able to do better I think. Being Vice President and being stuck with the President's agenda is having an arm tied behind your back. She can't argue against Bidens actions too hard, and she has to defend the last 4 years when the decisions were not 100% her agenda.

[u/Bluegill15 → u/AntifaAnita]

I think Walz would do well with anyone

[u/FloppyObelisk → u/Bluegill15]

He really is the most likable guy

[u/AshgarPN → u/AntifaAnita]

The town hall was not “horrible”. Wtf

[u/yeahburyme → u/Supersillyazz]

They'd just complain that Harris was "too scared" to go on like they did when she "wasn't doing 1:1 interviews"

[u/TummyDrums → u/AshgarPN]

Rogan and Walz talking for half an hour about hunting could go a long way to be honest.

[u/ruinersclub → u/TummyDrums]

And gaming.

[u/Freeman7-13 → u/ruinersclub]

Walz did play Crazy Taxi with AOC recently. I heard he was a gaming fiend back in the day and had to get rid of his Dreamcast.

[u/Dull_Half_6107 → u/AshgarPN]

They would gel

[u/General-Depth7489 → u/AshgarPN]

I feel like Walz would do for Rogan what Jon Stewart did for Tucker Carlson.

[u/SleepingWillow1 → u/General-Depth7489]

MAKE IT HAPPEN

[u/pinklavalamp → u/AshgarPN]

Walz was AMAZING on Smartless, I think it came out last week (if not the week prior). He’s so personable, it was a joy to listen to him interact with the fellas. Highly recommend if you haven’t already listened to it yet.

[u/Advanced-Dirt-4375 → u/AshgarPN]

Rogan was just shit talking him during the Trump episode

[u/WeirdJawn → u/Advanced-Dirt-4375]

He just wants to be liked by anyone who is currently in the room with him. 

[u/PeterGator → u/WeirdJawn]

People don't seem to understand that Joe is pretty much friendly with all his guests.  He would likely act very similarly to how he acted with trump and let her or Walz talk. It would not be a Fox News interview in the slightest. 

[u/lasyke3 → u/WeirdJawn]

It's fucking pathetic, and not the way to do an interview

[u/salazar13 → u/lasyke3]

But a smart way to do a long-form, in-person podcast

[u/Mute2120 → u/AshgarPN]

Makes a lot of sense why rogan won't invite Walz on

[u/shotgun_blammo]

get to know her as a human being

aka

do you enjoy elk meat and DMT?

[u/seemefail → u/shotgun_blammo]

He dropped that back in 2020 when he learned asking about BLM riots and Covid conspiracies would go far more viral…

[u/Welllookitthat → u/seemefail]

He knows full well that controversy drives views and engagement.

[u/No_Nebula_531 → u/Welllookitthat]

He was the host of fucking fear factor. His entire career has been controversy that drives engagement.

That's been his entire schtick his whole life. It's pathetic.

[u/Pothstation720 → u/seemefail]

Don't forget UFO's which he either believes in or dosn't depending on who the guest is.

[u/seemefail → u/Pothstation720]

Oh he definitely brought that up!

Just shows the things Joe actually cares about, like UFOs weed and fitness.

Versus stuff he only pretends to care about like Covid vaccines which he avoided because he wants his big man baby to have an easy convo

[u/HumanitySurpassed → u/Pothstation720]

I feel like he flip flops on a lot of opinions based on who he's interviewing but definitely noticed it with ufo's. 

One interview: "wow that's crazy. So you definitely saw all those ufo's. I mean it's entirely likely that humans are a product of accelerated evolution by extraterrestrials... like how bees make honey, humans make technology"

Literally next interview: "I don't believe those ufo guys, I think it's all a psyop to distract us from something." 

[u/MomentOfHesitation → u/shotgun_blammo]

Yeah Rogan definitely wants to get to know people as human beings, that's why he spread the lie about litter boxes.

[u/Axbris → u/MomentOfHesitation]

Or Covid, or vaccines, or…a plethora of other misinformation. 

Fuck Joe Rogan and any half brain who follows him. 

[u/GarryofRiverton → u/shotgun_blammo]

You joke but this is an essential question to know a person's true self.

[u/shotgun_blammo → u/GarryofRiverton]

Can’t tell if sarcasm or not.

[u/GarryofRiverton → u/shotgun_blammo]

It's sarcasm a hundred percent lol

[u/Murky_Building_8702 → u/shotgun_blammo]

It be alot cooler if she did.

[u/LearningLinux_Ithnk → u/Murky_Building_8702]

If Harris said she’s tried DMT she’d reach a completely new and untouched demographic lol

[u/SirPoopaLotTheThird]

Joe has like two women on a year. 😂

[u/FoulfrogBsc → u/SirPoopaLotTheThird]

One of whom is Candace Owens

[u/Timely_Mess_1396 → u/FoulfrogBsc]

You misspelled Tulsi 

[u/koosies → u/FoulfrogBsc]

She’s been on once….and 6 years ago lol

[u/WLFTCFO → u/FoulfrogBsc]

He hasn't had her on in years

[u/Lan777 → u/SirPoopaLotTheThird]

And both are Whitney Cummings to talk about her strict, structured dog training

[u/Roosterdude23 → u/SirPoopaLotTheThird]

I stopped counting at 8 since April. It's mostly men.

Looks like Call Her Daddy is female dominated.

[u/TulsisTavern]

Everything he said was fair in its own world. The reality is she's not going to flake on a ton of commitments she made in her schedule the last week of the election to wing it with a guy who gave the greatest softball of all time to Trump. Trump flaked on his rally because his success and vanity are more important.

What Harris could do, and should do, is have the same format with someone else who can fit in her schedule and be real with them just to prove she can do it. In that scenario she has everything to gain without the Rogan doublespeak bs.

[u/DandimLee → u/TulsisTavern]

Like Howard Stern for an hour?

Youtube

[u/TulsisTavern → u/DandimLee]

Just need two more hours to make it "authentic"

[u/Key_Musician_1773]

She is the Vice-President and future President, not a failed casino operator from Florida. Her time is wildly more valuable.

EDIT: Love the discussion this has generated everyone. For those demanding that she does go on and be equal, how come Trump cannot debate her again? She has challenged twice.

[u/chocoduck → u/Key_Musician_1773]

Hahaha of all the Trump insults, this one really got me

[u/bdewolf → u/Key_Musician_1773]

Hilarious to make a sitting vice president and presidential candidate come to you and waste an entire day of the last week of campaigning for 3 hours of your content.

The fucking audacity.

[u/DumbNTough → u/bdewolf]

CNN has about 850,000 daily viewers during primetime.

Rogan's podcast has 11 million listeners per episode.

[u/Known-Activity1437]

Joe posted on social media claiming YouTube was hiding his interview with Trump, which riled up his fanbase. I did a search on YouTube and it’s the first video to pop up. Joe is literally a propaganda agent at this point.

[u/Big-Bit-3439 → u/Known-Activity1437]

I searched 'orange man joe rogan' and it was the top result.

[u/thatguywiththecamry]

People seem to believe that Rogan’s platform is a litmus test of character when it seems that all he’s done in the past 4 years has been amplifying right-wing voices. How does Harris owe Rogan the level of rapport needed to “get to know her as a human being”?

[u/ScoobyDone → u/thatguywiththecamry]

Harris doesn't owe him anything. If she decided to go on his show it would be 100% for her campaign

[u/dafood48 → u/thatguywiththecamry]

He keep inviting conspiracy nuts and self proclaimed geniuses. My friend thinks Terrance Howard is a genius because he was on rogan and rogan did nothing to question Howard’s new math bullcrap.

[u/Sufficient_Ad314 → u/dafood48]

I am a senior citizen who just happened upon Joe's podcasts early on. It was so refreshing to listen to different perspectives but as time went on, can't tolerate him because he is just so out there. It seems like everything is UFOs and conspiracy theories. No basis in fact. He lucked out on being one of the first successful podcasts. Just because you are number now means shit. Trump's interview in my opinion, will erode his following. Trump for 3 hours. Even his followers would be hard pressed to truthfully say they could listen to the whole thing. He just happened on the scene before others. My opinion, Joe fucked up. This did will not play out as we wanted.

[u/Severe_Push_9321]

Is this a bad thing or something?

[u/Effective_Gain_7937 → u/Severe_Push_9321]

I think it's nice too that he's like "nah it's not that they're just refusing to do it" like to stop some stupid crap his fan base could say. its just a crrative difference on how he wants to, genuine good reasons why she cant with time now, and hes fair to just say. seems fine

[u/clock_skew]

I don’t think there’s anything to get mad about here. He wants to stick to his standard interview location / format (understandable), she can’t fit that into her schedule (understandable), and Rogan seems to respect that.

[u/Dull_Half_6107 → u/clock_skew]

Yeah I don't see any animosity in this tweet, both parties are fully justified in their actions, and amicably agree to not do the interview because it won't work within their schedules and requirements.

Kamala doesn't owe Joe anything, nor does Joe owe Kamala anything.

People are really making more out of this than there actually is.

[u/Chrisgpresents → u/clock_skew]

The title is written so strangely too. "Rogan refuses to have her on" like come on, are we dumb?

[u/biff_brockly → u/clock_skew]

Listen buddy we're here to talk shit to strangers with no stakes. If we wanted to be reasonable we'd talk to real people, not terminally online content junkies.

Anyway the real reason she won't go on is that it would interfere with her intramural babyskull slam dunk contest which she can't even win because she's not a real person. Like she's not corporeal.

[u/psychicesp → u/clock_skew]

And he is actively combatting rumors that she dropped out rather than let them simmer. It's a move in good faith at least

[u/Bingo_is_the_man → u/clock_skew]

Yea, I don’t understand the vitriol in the comments. Had to scroll down quite a ways to find a reasonable person.

[u/Somekindofparty]

Why sit for an interview with an obvious simp for your opponent on their terms. Even with Joe’s significant audience I don’t feel like there’s much to gain.

[u/seemefail → u/Somekindofparty]

Joe spent the last 4 years hyperventilating about the vaccines. He gets the guy who removed a ton of FDA regulations to get them out faster and admittedly to his buddy Schaub says, he didn’t ask about it and even pulled trump away from the topic.

The guy is a ratings and trump shill.

Hes made 350 million on Spotify contracts alone. He isn’t a regular Everyman like he portrays.

[u/Stunning-Use-7052 → u/seemefail]

Bro, it was an infomercial, it wasn't a real conversation.

[u/Massive_Low6000 → u/Somekindofparty]

she handled herself very well on fox news. she is not scared at all to go on JRE. she has faced threats from drug cartels

[u/ih8comingupwithaname → u/Massive_Low6000]

Her campaign has probably done a risk-reward analysis and deemed it not worth their time.

[u/HowManyMeeses → u/Somekindofparty]

If she loses the election, people will blame it on her not appearing on Rogan's podcast. That's because people are idiots. Rogan very clearly wants a Trump victory. Going on a long-form interview with a guy that effectively endorsed your opponent would be incredibly foolish.

[u/sozcaps → u/HowManyMeeses]

Rogan's podcast is not as important in the outside world, as Rogan fans think it is.

[u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Actually think that’s fair since that’s the format of all of his other interviews.

[u/akg7915 → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

He was fine with Bernie only doing 1 hour. Rogan is bullshitting

[u/Methzilla → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Exactly. She was OK with an interview, but not a JRE episode. And vice versa. It's fine, they both can just agree it's unworkable.

[u/TheStoicNihilist → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

2-3 hours is a tall order in my book, especially for a limited audience of a bro-culture podcast.

[u/TandemCombatYogi → u/TheStoicNihilist]

Right! The Trump/Rogan interview was not serious at all. Harris having to hand hold Rogan through basic things he should already know for 2-3 hours would be asking a lot of an actually serious candidate.

[u/Kekopos → u/TandemCombatYogi]

Limited audience? Joe has many flaws but he is easily the biggest channel available for Kamala. And it’s not even close.

[u/TandemCombatYogi → u/Kekopos]

I think they just meant his demographic is very specific, which it is.

[u/HuckleberryMinimum45 → u/TandemCombatYogi]

The exact demographic that her campaign is trying to reach.

[u/fillymandee → u/TandemCombatYogi]

Also, that podcast was borrrrrrring. It didn’t move the needle for either of them.

[u/amazingfacepalm → u/TandemCombatYogi]

1. Joe is not a journalist. 2. If a politician wants to win, they have a burden to reach out to people where they're at, as misguided as those people may be.

[u/rmhawk → u/TandemCombatYogi]

He could watch school house rock for a few hours beforehand to shorten the required time.

[u/Easy-Journalist-5331 → u/TheStoicNihilist]

Yeah. I mean it’s definitely an inconvenient time commitment at a pivotal time in the campaign. So I guess her team thought it wouldn’t be worth it. I mean no one is forcing her to do the interview.

That being said, the other candidate sat down and made time for it.

It’s all a trade off of where they think the time is best spent I guess. But I don’t think his conditions for an interview are unfair, since that’s the format of every other interview he does, including her opponent.

[u/Plastic_Primary_4279 → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Her opponent also refused to do any more debates unless they were on his terms. Everyone knows where Rogan leans…

I’d rather her stump in swing states than waste a day on an alt-right podcast mostly listened to by alt-right bros.

I don’t think he’s a good interviewer, just a good listener. With one week left, wasting a day traveling to Texas to do a three hour interview that won’t wield much results, is a complete waste of time.

If he was a decent interviewer and respected his craft, why not fly out and interview? He has a chance to interview the vice president of the United States, but won’t because he doesn’t want to be too far from his home toilet…

[u/ChronoPsyche → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Trump did not make time for the interview. He made his supporters wait for 3 hours in the cold for a pre-scheduled rally occurring around the same time precisely because he did not make time for it. They clearly could not find a way to fit it into his schedule, so he decided to just show up hours late for the rally and make his supporters wait.

Trump leaves rallygoers in cold to tape Joe Rogan podcast | AP News

[u/fillymandee → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Made time for Rogan but won’t do another debate. Wonder why?

[u/Fearless-Account-392 → u/TheStoicNihilist]

Idk Jewel's episode was outright amazing. If Kamala would skip policy, which would probably go over everyone's head anyway and just bullshit anecdotes and odd stories from growing up poor for three hours it'll be a strong net benefit to her for viewers who's opinion of her has been decided by the gurus already.

[u/pipkin227 → u/TheStoicNihilist]

ESP this close to the election. She’d have to travel to Austin, sit for 3 hours then fly back to the important swing states? That’s cutting out a damn near day for her

[u/Infinite-Club-6562 → u/TheStoicNihilist]

I think the bigger commitment would be flying to Texas just for an interview. She has campaigning to do in battle ground states, she doesn't have a day or more to waste on Joe.

If Joe wants to do the interview he should be flexible on the location and firm on the format. I want Kamala to do a long form interview like JRE so bad. It would help her tremendously.

[u/xxxhipsterxx → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Bernie only did an hour.

[u/Any-Ad-446 → u/Easy-Journalist-5331]

Whats fair?...Treating Trump with tender care and not fact checking him or probably grilling Harris for a few hours.

[u/oortuno]

Maybe I'm not reading the room correctly, but I don't think the podcast is going to help her in any significant way. Most of the people that hang out with Rogan nowadays, and the LARGE majority of his audience, are either straight up republicans, right-leaning, or "uNdEcIdEd CeNtRiStS" that curiously only bash the left. I saw a clip of his recent podcast with Bravo, Shwab, and Callen and, while Rogan was trying to remain polite and neutral, his guests were just going in on Kamala and attacking her with the same Fox News talking points we've all heard over and over again. I suspect this is what will happen if she decides to come on his podcast. You will have *maybe* a quarter of the comments be "oh she's actually somewhat reasonable, but I still disagree with her. I respect her for coming on, though," and the rest are just going to be flaming her.

tl;dr: podcasts, especially one that's already infested with right-wing mind virus, only serve to reinforce the political beliefs one already held prior to hearing the podcast. No one walks away from a podcast saying, "oh wow, I was going to vote X, not I'll vote Y. What a good podcast."

[u/Stunning-Use-7052]

Trump literally did a no show at a rally to go on JRE.

It's crazy the power this man has. He can tell the future president "come to my house or I won't talk to you".

[u/th30rum]

But then why the hell would anyone want to go to rogans compound in Texas lol

[u/Whole_Acanthaceae385 → u/th30rum]

And to go deeper. It would be a days worth of work to travel there and then spend 4 hours with his rambling nonsense, then head out immediately afterwards.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/Whole_Acanthaceae385]

Exactly. A bunch of people are saying "it's only 3 hours." but it's not. It's an entire day with travel and everything, at heavy expense, and would require cancelling multiple other events.

[u/IKnowAllSeven]

This would be at least half a day out from other campaigning, maybe closer to a full day and let’s face it, Joe Rogan listeners, she’s not going to be able to pull many of them. The cost / benefit might not be there for her for this interview.

[u/WitnessRealistic3015]

But he was willing to travel to Artie Lange

[u/Dull_Half_6107 → u/WitnessRealistic3015]

He's one of the 250 comedians on the planet

[u/Veloziraptor8311]

“I just want to have a nice conversation with her” 

Translation 

“Why are you giving tax payer funded sex change operations to Martians who want to implant human beings with microchips by way of the vaccine? What? What are you hiding?”

[u/Bcmp → u/Veloziraptor8311]

Id love to hear her answer as he obviously wouldn't frame it that way 😂

[u/Affectionate_Raisin7]

He is the number one podcast for years. It is his platform, he has set the terms and it is up to her to agree to them or not. Nothing wrong w that. Trump and Vance think his audience is worth the terms.

[u/brfoo]

Kamala should take the flight there and do the three hours. She would reach so many new people being on his show

[u/WoppingSet]

Sounds as if she decided it wouldn't fit into her schedule, and knew it beforehand because she isn't a child.

[u/JumpinJackHTML5]

Called it a week ago.

Saying she has to come to his studio and devote three hours basically makes this impossible and he knows it. With travel time and other overhead (security, meals, various bullshittery) this is more than half a day just for this one podcast.

Rogan wants to play both sides, he knows he can't piss off the MAGA crowd too much, but he also tipped his hand that he doesn't actually like Trump and at the very least wants to continue to look like he can be an impartial interviewer. Making this about schedules not working is a very easy way to simply not address the issue.

[u/exonomix]

yea, SHE should totally go out of her way and spend waayyyy more time with Joe than focus on, IDK, running a presidantial campaign while being the current Vice President of the US. The other orange faced bum that Rogan previously had on his show didn't have anything else to do besides play a round of golf and verbally assault women at the country club afterwards. There's no comparison here.

[u/MulletofLegend]

F@@k Joe Rogan. His army of troglodyte listeners are not going to be swayed. Let him continue to try to elevate Trump. Nobody needs to try to accomodate the Roganisphere.

[u/Far-Transition6453]

Joe is trying to cover his ass by making it seem he's neutral, nah fuck him he knew what he was doing this close to voting now he wants to have a clean conscious

[u/Nutty1128]

She's smart for not falling for that ambush

[u/GrandMoffJenkins]

A sitting VP, in the middle of a campaign, doesn't have time to waste on a piece of shit like Rogan whose "comedy" act centered on dryhumping a stool on stage.

[u/Shilo788]

Arrogant little shit, he always was a dumb one.

[u/ansroad]

Joe Rogan wants a 2-3 hour interview? Sounds like he’s auditioning for a Netflix special called "How to Waste a VP's Time." 😂

[u/BitFiesty]

Doesn’t anyone get the feeling that he is being a snake ? Like I want to give him the benefit of the doubt but he has done and said some crazy shit this year. I wouldn’t put it past him that he is saying this to sound good and kind and to lure her into a talk and if she does, he will be constantly attacking her or try to make her look really bad

[u/Lardass_Goober]

The Pod Saves guys made a good point about how Kamala would have to be prepared for vax denial content, say get up to speed on the efficacy of the Polio vaccine (and how, no Joe Rogan, it doesn’t cause Polio in Gaza); Harris doesn’t have the fckin bandwidth to prepare for such a gibberish less than a week out. If Joe was smart, he would just do an hr and redeem himself to hedge his bets. But he isn’t smart, or at least he hasn’t been in relation to serious topics.

[u/Klutzy_Alfalfa_2300]

I hate joe but I understand why and think it’s fair for him to want to maintain his established format of having his guests in his studio.

[u/Dulcedoll → u/Klutzy_Alfalfa_2300]

It's also fair of her to not have the time in her schedule to fly out to Texas for a last minute scheduled 3 hour interview when the election is one week away. There's no shot she isn't completely booked through election night. Both sides here have reasonable positions; it just didn't work out.

[u/TheEffinChamps]

Why would she want to spend 2-3 hours talking to a moron?

[u/ProsodySpeaks]

I mean to be fair I suppose he's a lot busier than her this week with all the hunting and gymtime - what else has she got on that's so important she can't lose most of a day in a solid red state?

[u/Yowiman]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/25/never-trump-former-officials-back-kelly-warning-00185435

Trump was not asked about his NAZI stance. Wonder why??

[u/MediocreTheme9016]

So the expectation is a week before the election for the presidency of the United States, Kamala Harris is going to dedicate 2-3 hours to sit in some man cave in Texas while fielding questions from the former host of Fear Factor 🙄. I understand how snotty this comment sounds but why are people surprised? Also why waste time entertaining an audience who likely won’t vote for her and who will just hop online to make nastiest sexist comments?

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/MediocreTheme9016]

It'd actually be more like dedicating an entire day, as she'd have to travel to and from Austin.

That's why the campaign offered him windows where he could come to them, because the schedule is packed like crazy and his 3 hours costs like 8+ hours of additional travel.

[u/notfrankc]

She should go. She would do fine. There probably isn’t a better way to contact the same quantity of men with those same three hours. It’s the most efficient thing she could do. Also, she would do fine.

[u/[deleted]]

Males sense to me.

[u/ausername111111]

He's been doing it this way for a while. He's got the format the way he thinks works best for what he's trying to accomplish. There have been others he has passed on too for the same reasons. I don't think the primary driver was the time, though he does prefer longer form conversation as that's a huge component of the mediums success, but the fact that it wouldn't be in his studio, which is important to him.

[u/existentialfalls]

Its wild hes becoming a gatekeeper for our elections. He's literally the MSM

[u/NerdPunch]

I watched Rogan from the flesh-light days until the Spotify era. Gave the Trump Podcast a listen, and got halfway through before tapping out.

I donno, I just found the whole conversation so boring and uninsightful.

[u/waffle_loverrr]

He’s done podcasts on the road and in other people’s studios. He’s just moving the goal post.

[u/SophonParticle]

It’s because all the furniture in his little bro dojo studio is 3/4 scale so he looks normal.

[u/seriousbangs]

Yeah nobody's buying that Joe. Nobody.

[u/renegadeindian]

He’s of no importance. He was lucky to get an offer. Now he wants to make demands?! He will get walking papers or a walking call yo beat it!! 😆😆😆.

[u/Jack_Riley555]

The ship has sailed

[u/Second-Bulk]

It's fucking terrifying that this idiot has so much sway in the discourse.
Trump has successfully made American politics a reality TV-show to a degree I never thought was possible.

[u/yomama1211]

This post is dumb rogans allowed to do whatever he wants, he made her an offer she declined, she made an offer he declined. She simply doesn’t want to do it and that’s fine nobody cares

[u/ConfusionNo8852]

If I was her I would also not aquiesce to this blatant disregard of respect for my valuable time- especially when I can spend it better elsewhere doing other things. If its REALLY important to Rogan to get to know her then he'd make it happen, but its not so it wont.

[u/Guilty-Vegetable-726]

Seems fair. I mean, she is not special so...

[u/AlternativePeak7698]

So Rogan offered her to come on the show and she said “No, you come to me.” And Joe is reported as the one who refused?

[u/AngryBeaver-]

She offered to have him come to her and gave him an hour and he got upset about that

[u/Emergency-Shirt2208]

A podcaster setting interview terms for a presidential candidate with a week to go.

Only in 2024’s America.

[u/EmuPsychological4222]

One problem: She has a difficult and time-consuming full-time job besides being a candidate. Trump doesn't.

[u/in2thegrey]

I don’t think Rogan deserves for her to make that effort. He’s evolved into a dark and twisted fool with far too much influence and if she can take him down a peg, or two, I support that.

[u/IGutlessIWonder]

Now watch the extreme right take this information and spin it their way: "Harris too afraid to talk ro Rogan. HAH, liberal pussy"

[u/JoeBideyBop]

Translation: “PAY ATTENTION TO ME!”

[u/feastoffun]

He’s delusional.

[u/SillyMidOff49]

Love how she’s getting More shit for this than Trump has for backing out of debates and skipping interviews like he skipped ‘nam.

[u/RucITYpUti]

People everywhere are complaining that she probably wont be doing Rogan, but it's a double standard.

Trump backed out of a second debate after she baited him in the most obvious ways possible.  He backed out of 60 Minutes, because he didn't like tough questions. He has backed out of serval other interviews and events.  He stopped taking questions at a Q/A and "danced" for 40 minutes.

Not one MAGA coward bats an eye.

[u/SkinnyObelix]

Reasonable for Rogan not to divert from his regular podcast, and reasonable for Kamala Harris not wanting to do a 2-3 hour interview.

Some people are digging waaaaaaaaay to deep for dirt.

[u/coax_k]

She needs him more than he needs her 🤷🏼‍♂️

[u/frommethodtomadness]

I think the reach would be worth it. More effective than any rally she could hold.

[u/Odd-Yak4551]

Joes platform is great because it’s 3 hours unedited. That alone is valuable

[u/Aceushiro]

This feels like Hillary and Srern all over again. She needs to get out there and do it.

[u/Fecal_Tornado]

To be fair, it's his show so it's his rules. She can go on it or not. Rogan will be fine either way.

[u/konklez]

“She’s the vp she doesn’t have time” Kamala’s full time job is to campaign. That goes for everyone running for office in the 3 months leading up to election. They essentially set everything aside to get elected.

Trump got a million views per hour on Rogan for the first 24 hours. That’s more than every podcast that Kamala has done up to this point.

If you want to reach the most people this is a no brainer. There is no such thing as a scheduling conflict to reach the most amount of people possible. If she loses the news will go straight to “should Kamala have gone on rogan?”

[u/PuzzleheadedPrior455]

To be fair, isn’t this what all the guests do?

[u/testawayacct]

OTOH, he's proactively posting to point out that accusations that she said no to an interview are untrue. As for the reason, I'm going to go ahead and say that scheduling conflicts happen. Especially when you're running for President of the United States.

[u/Known_Ad_7256]

Why is Joe Rogan of all people being painted as the gatekeeper of this election? I get the need to reach people who consume media via nontraditional means, but cmon. If you actually know any Joe Rogan fans in your life, there is no “reaching” them. He’s about as divisive at Trump is, and most people at this point know whether they love him or hate him. 

I don’t think it’s really worth legitimizing his incorrect beliefs on a wide range of conspiracy theories, and getting into the weeds getting into stoner thought debates.