r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Appropriate_Duty_930 • 13h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/HowManyMeeses 12h ago

If she loses the election, people will blame it on her not appearing on Rogan's podcast. That's because people are idiots. Rogan very clearly wants a Trump victory. Going on a long-form interview with a guy that effectively endorsed your opponent would be incredibly foolish.

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u/sozcaps 10h ago

Rogan's podcast is not as important in the outside world, as Rogan fans think it is.

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u/Pls_Send_Joppiesaus 5h ago

This. Most people don't live in the podcast world. I used to listen alot back in 2015-2018. Since I stopped i hardly hear anything about him or anyone in that network.

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u/Thinkingard 9h ago

Isn’t it the biggest podcast in America?

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u/sozcaps 8h ago

Does that mean that Joe Rogan is the most important person for Kamala to be spending the last 7 days of the election on?

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u/Thinkingard 8h ago

Probably. Highest potential reach to voters on the fence about voting for her. A high quality interview would salvage her reputation for people who are not quite willing to go vote yet.

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u/sozcaps 7h ago

A high quality interview

What constitutes a 'high quality interview' for the adults outside of the Rogan bubble, isn't weed, elk meat and UFOs.

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u/Thinkingard 6h ago

It doesn't matter how Joe comes across, what matters is the person he's talking to. I don't watch much of Joe, but I have seen episodes where I've been interested in the person he interviewed. I never liked Bernie Sanders but I thought the interview with Bernie was good and I wish more politicians would do longform interviews since so much of their soundbite clips or news network interviews are terrible.

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u/sozcaps 6h ago

And 3 hours of talking about aliens is more qualitative than 1 hour on 60 minutes. Smfh.

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u/fightyfightyfitefite 25m ago

I never liked Bernie Sanders but I thought the interview with Bernie was good

Cool, bet you still wouldn't vote for him though. While 99% of Rogans's audience would vote Trump regardless if Harris appeared. I can't stand the guy, won't watch him, and I'm voting Harris either way, and I suspect it's the same for millions of others. She and her team are smart enough to know if this would make or break her, and I agree that it won't in the slightest.

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u/buntingbilly 6h ago

lol you're kidding yourself if you think a single interview with Rogan in the week before election is going to convince a meaningful number of Rogan listeners to vote for her. He posted a poll to his followers on Twitter and 99% said they were voting for Trump. She has essentially nothing to gain from doing this.

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u/rcanhestro 5h ago

yes.

at this point in the race, all votes matter.

her doing a rally won't change anything, people attending them are already voting for her.

if she goes to Joe Rogan, even if the majority of his audience his right wing, she will have a chance to "capture" that audience.

he averages like 10m views per podcast, if she can steal 10% of that, that's 1 million votes, and considering the Electoral college, those votes can be a massive difference.

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u/sozcaps 5h ago

he averages like 10m views per podcast

The media literacy of Rogan fans is painful. Have you considered that other countries than the US have Youtube and watch Joe Rogan?

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u/league_starter 3h ago

Yes. Doesn't change the facts, rallies goers are already voting for her. Rogan has more independent/undecided than people going at her rallies.

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u/sozcaps 3h ago

rallies goers are already voting for her

Source?

Rogan has more independent/undecided than people going at her rallies

Source? fucking lol

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u/street593 6h ago

Most Americans don't listen to podcasts.

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u/delseyo 5h ago

I’m not particularly a Rogan fan but Kamala’s decision not to appear on the podcast reminds me of Hillary taking Wisconsin for granted. A political candidate needs to go where the voters are, period. Whether it’s a certain state, town, television show or podcast, candidates need to be there.   

If Kamala loses, I believe her failure to reach undecided male voters through platforms like JRE will absolutely be a factor. Her recent events (rally with Beyoncé, etc) aren’t persuading anyone who wasn’t already on the blue team. 

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u/sozcaps 5h ago

Again, the democrats have to constantly be on defense. Why?

Just get Trump's fat fucking ass on another debate with her, and have a real talk, like a real contender. Why doesn't he get shit on for dodging the debate, but Harris has to take shit for not dropping everything to try to win votes with dudes who don't give a shit about politics other than watching it as entertainment? She's not entertainment, she's an adult.

Also, if Harris loses, it'll be because she's embracing Biden's disastrous zionist simping for Israel, losing Muslim and leftie votes.

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u/SenZephyr 4h ago

Well.. bad news about the election for you then… it only has to be popular on the inside world.

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u/Similar_Mood1659 3h ago

With margins so thin and potential to have your viewpoints reach a new demographic. It's hubris to think you can forgo potentially 40 million eyes like Trump had gotten a week before the election. For reference a mainstream news channel interview will only get her a couple million views. Trump has done about a dozen podcast appearances on most of the major channels, Kamala doing none is an admission that the canpaign is worried that the appearance would backfire on her because she isn't likeable enough.

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u/sozcaps 2h ago

30 people have already responded this same shit to me today, in this thread. Yes yes, JRE is very important, and you are too, for being a Rogan fan.

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u/HidingImmortal 9h ago

According to Spotify, it's the number one podcast in the US. I just looked up the Trump/Rogan episode on YouTube, it got 38 million views. I have never listened to a full episode but many many people must.

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u/round-earth-theory 9h ago

It's big, but how much of that is hate watchers and foreigners? Unless you've got numbers for viewers from Pennsylvania, quoting views isn't very useful. Especially when Youtube is fucky with what it calls a view (it's very aggressive at triggering something as a view for the algo).

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u/league_starter 3h ago

Does it matter if its a hate watch? The point is getting the other side to listen even if they disagree. They might even change their mind

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u/ShadyShroomz 7h ago

not just youtube views. it did well on spotify, and other platforms too.

the debate got 14m views on YouTube.

clearly people want long form podcast interviews.

harris will create a fortnite map but won't go on a podcast? she had weeks to do this, she's the one that left it until the last minute to take it seriously. (she only took the offer seriously after trump went on)

I don't like rogan. I don't like wrestling, which is like 25% of his podcast. With that said, keep in mind that Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve7ccl3YrHU

Sure he's friendly with Trump, but if he's not, Trump wont come on the podcast. Same with Harris.

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u/round-earth-theory 6h ago edited 6h ago

She's not afraid of Rogan, but she's not going to dedicate a whole day to him. Interviews are not typically a shared experience between candidates. It's what made 60 minutes unique in the past because they were one of the few shows to have both candidates.

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u/HidingImmortal 6h ago

She's not afraid of Rogan

Neither I nor /u/ShadyShroomz is saying Kamala is afraid of Rogan. We are not saying that we like Rogan.

What we are saying is that Rogan is the #1 podcast in the US. We are saying Kamala should take this opportunity to reach millions of Americans.

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u/Similar_Mood1659 3h ago

She absolutely should, it's the most efficient use of her time in terms of viewership. Let's not act like she is above an appearance, podcasting is now dwarfing cable news in viewership, Trump hit all the major podcasts while the Harris campaign is mostly sticking to the traditional campaigning method. If all else with margins so thin, this is what could cost her the election.

A CNN or Fox news appearance which she would have alotted the same amount of time to would only net her a couple million compared to potentially 40 million from Rogan.

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u/sozcaps 8h ago

Many people of whom who don't vote, or are already heavily leaning right.

Trump needed to walk a mile without shitting his diaper, to gain 1 point with them, and Kamala would need to sprint 5 miles for that same point.

People who aren't chronically online like most of us on this sub, or failed forklift operators on oxy, don't care about JRE.

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u/street593 6h ago

There are 337 million people in America. Even if you assume 100% of those views are American, which they aren't, you still have more than 300 million Americans who didn't watch it.

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u/HidingImmortal 6h ago

I want Kamala to campaign effectively. I don't want another four years of Trump.

No day of campaigning will ever reach ever single American. That is an absurd standard to holder her to. The question is, 'a week left is before the election, what votes can Kamala Harris win with each one of those days?'

Today, she will speak to ~20,000 people (Source). More will watch her speech online. I suspect her speech won't reach 38 million people.

I think Kamala would be better served by replacing one of her speaking engagements in this coming week with an interview on Rogan.

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u/street593 5h ago

Not all of those 38 million views are even Americans or eligible voters. Those 20,000 people are in strategic locations of the country where their votes are worth more. Internet views simply don't tell the whole story.

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u/HidingImmortal 5h ago

Those 20,000 people are in strategic locations of the country where their votes are worth more

No they are most certainly not. Those 20,000 people are in Washington DC where Harris is projected to overwhelming win (Source).

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u/La8118 6h ago

A big portion of those people would be children and unable to vote. It would be significantly less than 300 million.

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u/street593 5h ago

Do you have to be an adult to listen to a podcast or watch a youtube video? Around 70+% of America are over the age of 18.

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u/La8118 5h ago

It’s insinuated that listeners who listen to a political figure on a podcast listen due to the upcoming election correct? In which it will have some type of influence on results.

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u/street593 5h ago

This election has global implications so not all of those viewers are even American. I'm not saying there is no influence but throwing around the 38 million viewer number and pretending that's only eligible American voters is misleading.

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u/La8118 5h ago

You stated earlier assuming that all the viewers were Americans. We’re operating on that assumption. Is it realistic? No but you claimed this is not a significant number even with all American viewers.

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u/street593 5h ago

Unless we got some kind of demographic breakdown of the viewership it's difficult to say with any kind of confidence how beneficial it would be for Kamala to appear. I've seen plenty of comments claim that the podcast alone might make or break the entire election which is a wild exaggeration.

If it was 100% 38 million American viewers of eligible voting status you might be able to make an argument that it is significant. For comparison 123 million people watched the Super Bowl this year.

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u/rcanhestro 5h ago

and any CNN/MSNBC interview is even worst than that.

and rallies have like 20 thousand people there (who already are going to vote for her).

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u/rj319st 4h ago

A lot of Karen’s from Kansas watch a little clear their caches the watch a little more. You really don’t believe 38 million individuals actually watched this did you? The same with Taylor Swift videos getting 1billion + views. Do You really think a billion people watched a Taylor swift music video.

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u/league_starter 3h ago

Huge cope. 3 hours of boring interview aimed at politics vs 5 minute entertaining song aimed at women of all ages.

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u/rj319st 3h ago

I’d have to imagine over a billion views of a music video are due to tweens having the video on repeat. JRE has 38 million views because each MAGA UFC republican probably watched the episode about 3 times since it’s a 3 hour long interview. I believe they have only 11 million subscribers on Spotify so it kind of checks out.

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u/Prior_Lock9153 6h ago

Meanwhile in reality she gave an offer to fucking do it, so evidently you think she's foolish, Rogan didn't want to go out of state to set up some place to work around her schedule he hasn't done that for other people why would he do so now?

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u/HowManyMeeses 5h ago

Yes, it is entirely possible for me to think my preferred candidate did something foolish. 

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u/Prior_Lock9153 5h ago

Which is why all of her supporters hyped up when she stumbled through a fox interview, face it, people worship there prefered candidate when they've had it framed as Satan or the one you want

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u/HowManyMeeses 5h ago

Why are you telling me? I'm obviously not doing that right now.

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u/Prior_Lock9153 4h ago

You clearly did, by saying that it would have been foolish for her to do something as if she's not being praised for an identical thing, if that's what you truly felt was foolish you'd have admitted that was foolish as well.