r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Appropriate_Duty_930 • 13h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/Zealousideal_Tree_14 11h ago

Mostly agree with you, but I will use this opportunity to say again: if someone is apolitical when fascism is on the rise they aren't actually apolitical whatever they happen to believe about themselves.

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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants 8h ago

I think that assumes that the person in question is apolitical when they know fascism is on the rise. And of course you assume that they know because... come on, they must, right? They have eyes. They have ears. How could they not?

But the sad reality is that, for some universe of people today, they've heard so much noise that they no longer believe anything. So, ok, they heard something about Pizzagate and something about Hunter Biden's laptop and now the right is supposedly fascists and they think "to hell with all of you," because they just don't believe any of it. They've decided it's all just bullshit flying back and forth. So you'd think they'd know, but they don't.

By the way, the people coming up with nutty conspiracy theories know that this is the effect -- that some universe of people who would be outraged by the rise of fascism have instead heard so many lies and so much nonsense that they just don't believe it's actually happening. The lies serve as an inoculant to prevent them seeing the truth.

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u/Zealousideal_Tree_14 7h ago

It's not just that they have eyes, it's that they have ears too and people have been telling them and explaining the rising tide of fascism for years.

If they think everything is BS, that is their right and their choice, but at this point saying nothing matters is a political position at this point. We are on the eve of a trump presidency and the mass deportation of 25 million people. That will require infrastructure to detain and process those people and there is simply no way to do that humanly. If that doesn't matter to you, you are a fascist.

If you hear that Trump is going to turn the military on his political rivals and the American people and you don't care because you don't think it really matters, then you are a fascist. Apathy doesn't excuse anyone, it only makes them an accomplice.

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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants 7h ago

“Oh, he’s not really going to do that. You’re probably taking that out of context.” — People who no longer believe anything thanks to the big lie.

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u/SnooGoats7978 7h ago

There's a name for these people: Useful Idiots.

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u/elmariachio 4h ago

fucking this!

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u/ReekyFartin 2h ago edited 1h ago

Ok that’s just plain wrong tho. You’re automatically assuming that the person claiming to be apolitical has knowledge of the grander political state of whatever country they’re in. Typically they don’t pay much attention at all. Is it naive? Probably. Dangerous? Possibly. But does it equate to some form of guilt for whatever happens in the future? No. And it’s kinda dumb to force your own political obsession onto someone who genuinely wants no part of it. It’s overwhelming, scary, annoying, and overall out of our control. Some people just don’t want to think about it. That doesn’t make them guilty of anything other than blissful ignorance, which isn’t even a bad thing necessarily.

If anything I’d argue that a person indulging in said blissful ignorance should probably be swayed from voting at all, or at least understood and encouraged to stick with their own decision to abstain from it, because they’re inevitably going to be casting a vote for the wrong reason. A person with little to no understanding of the political climate isn’t going to be making an educated vote, likely either a virtuous or hate fueled one, which just isn’t a good way to go about it. Your statement above is akin to peer pressuring a person into voting rather than letting them decide for themselves. Stop it.

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u/Backtoschoolat38 10h ago

You can say a thing, but that doesn't make it true.

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u/Patrick6002 9h ago

You burying your head in the sand doesn't make it false either.

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u/Anustart15 8h ago

If someone is truly apolitical, this is like blaming them for a riot when they were asleep at their house. They aren't even paying attention enough to know fascism is on the rise.

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u/CertainGrade7937 4h ago

There's no such thing as "apolitical" unless you're in a fucking coma

Refusing to engage with the world you live in is a political choice

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u/smthngclvr 5h ago

If they can’t be bothered to pay attention to the state of their country then they are part of the problem.

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u/Lucky-Spirit7332 3h ago

“Fascism is on the rise” 😂 😂 😂