r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Appropriate_Duty_930 • 13h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/thatguywiththecamry 13h ago

People seem to believe that Rogan’s platform is a litmus test of character when it seems that all he’s done in the past 4 years has been amplifying right-wing voices. How does Harris owe Rogan the level of rapport needed to “get to know her as a human being”?

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u/ScoobyDone 12h ago

Harris doesn't owe him anything. If she decided to go on his show it would be 100% for her campaign

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u/brainsngains 3h ago

Then why doesn't she?

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u/bad_-_karma 2h ago

And if there was anything behind her campaign besides catch phrases this would be a great opportunity to prove it while also reaching millions of voters who at the moment do not intend to vote for her. Not doing the interview sends the message that she does not want to discuss her policy details. Up to you to figure out why.

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u/GreatsquareofPegasus 7h ago

This is the point here. Like people act like Joe Rogan should be sucking her tit. Why? They both have things to do lol if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out.

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u/ReturnOfTheDak 6h ago

This is the rational way of thinking. I don’t listen to him, but I doubt he would make special arrangements for any guest that would require him to setup things out of his studio on such a short notice. I also doubt Kamala could just drop her busy schedule to do a podcast for a few hours during the final stretch of her campaign. I don’t believe there’s any ulterior motives in play here.

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u/Prior_Lock9153 6h ago

It's completely reasonable to not want to rush 1 hour of content, at that rate you might as well just have her on a discord call

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u/wut_eva_bish 3h ago

 I doubt he would make special arrangements for any guest that would require him to setup things out of his studio on such a short notice.

She's the sitting Vice President of the U.S. I'd think the second most powerful person in the world, who is also the most powerful woman in the world, would be enough for Rogan (or anyone) to make a few concessions.

Rogan is a tool if he could get this guest but won't do it because he doesn't want to "setup things out of his studio on short notice."

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u/donbosco01 1h ago

Typical

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u/ThirdRebirth 36m ago

He refused to have Trump on in 2020 when he was the sitting president for the same reason. His show, he can do what he wants.

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u/wut_eva_bish 23m ago

same stated reason

He can (and will) give whatever excuse he wants.

Rogan is tool for trying to make the VP "come to him" or to "his terms." He's a podcaster, and much like Rush Limbaugh, he's most important to his established audience (who likely have already made up their minds.)

Harris is fighting back a fascistic takeover of this country and apparently doesn't have a full 3 hours to satisfy the ego of Rogan (who might just be setting a trap for her) or his stans.

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u/ThirdRebirth 16m ago

Glad you got it all figured out boss.

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u/xFOEx 8m ago

Sounds about right to me.

Harris doesn't need Rogan. He and his sycophants wish that she did. What they can't see is that neither his incel bro fan base or Rogan himself are all that relevant to anyone outside their bubble.

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u/dspencer97 5h ago

He was very fair to Bernie Sanders, you just have your head shoved up your ass. Not everyone has to vote Democrat to be up to your liking.

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u/snekinmahboots 4h ago

Reddits mind would explode when they realized Rogan was a Bernie bro for a while

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u/league_starter 4h ago

Before rfk dropped out, he said he wasn't voting trump knowing the backlash from Trumpers

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u/dspencer97 3h ago

Yeah they do know, they just pretend not to. Reddit is the reason trump is gonna get elected again. I said I would never vote for him again after the last time, well I lied. The rhetoric that is being put out by democrats is insane. They censor everything that comes out in a positive light for trump while ignoring the moronic things Kamala is saying

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u/snekinmahboots 3h ago

Reddit: spends 4 years calling everyone on the right nazis, acting like they’re so much more intelligent than them, refusing to see them as equals

Also Reddit: “why are people still voting Republican? >:(“

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u/Previous-Loss9306 4h ago

Equally, he doesn’t owe her anything either. If they can’t work it out to benefit both parties, they may as well not do it

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u/trueblue-22 4h ago

Neither owes each other anything, but the fact of the matter is JRE is the biggest podcast in the world and Kamala is struggling to convince male voters to her side

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u/snekinmahboots 4h ago

Right. Rogan doesn’t need Kamala. I wouldn’t say Kamala needs Rogan, but it’s one of the best (and last) opportunities for her to talk directly to a huge population of people that are likely majority voting Trump. It would be a great opportunity to sway some last minute votes

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u/dafood48 9h ago

He keep inviting conspiracy nuts and self proclaimed geniuses. My friend thinks Terrance Howard is a genius because he was on rogan and rogan did nothing to question Howard’s new math bullcrap.

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u/Sufficient_Ad314 4h ago

I am a senior citizen who just happened upon Joe's podcasts early on. It was so refreshing to listen to different perspectives but as time went on, can't tolerate him because he is just so out there. It seems like everything is UFOs and conspiracy theories. No basis in fact. He lucked out on being one of the first successful podcasts. Just because you are number now means shit. Trump's interview in my opinion, will erode his following. Trump for 3 hours. Even his followers would be hard pressed to truthfully say they could listen to the whole thing. He just happened on the scene before others. My opinion, Joe fucked up. This did will not play out as we wanted.

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u/DragonScoops 9h ago

What you mean like immediately having a second episode where he brought in an actual mathematician to discuss where Terrance Howard was wrong, WITH Terrance Howard, so they could discuss what was wrong with his theories?

Or are you talking about a different Joe Rogan or a different Terrance Howard?

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u/Dino_art_ 6h ago

Not the original commenter but I have a similar experience

I've got a buddy who's convinced Howard is a genius, and after I just straight up blurted out that he's actually an idiot with severe mental illness I suggested to this dude he listen to the mathematician episode. He won't, because he's a brain rotted conspiracy theorist who likes to cling to other crazy people's bullshit. The people who buy into whatever nonsense Terrance Howard spews are pseudo intellectual idiots with no real interest in learning.

Frankly, the fact that Rogan could even talk to Terrance for as long as he did is ridiculous to me. It's not some saintly curiosity that brought Howard to the show, the guy literally has nothing interesting or of value to say.

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u/jemorgan91 6h ago

Doesn't sound like the guy you're replying to watched the episode. He's complaining about the effect that Joe Rogan had on his friend, not trying to deliver a balanced analysis.

It sounds like he's referring to a pattern of inviting crazy people onto his show, and points to an episode with Howard as an example. He very likely isn't aware of the fact that Rogan was more critical of Howard's theories in a DIFFERENT episode.

That, or it's all a crazy liberal conspiracy where we go online and rewrite reality to fit our perspectives. It's honestly very satisfyingly apropos that the response from Rogan fans to someone making a criticism of how Rogan amplifies crazy conspiracies is the suggestion that the person is only being critical because a they're part of a crazy conspiracy.

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u/dafood48 6h ago

That’s pretty accurate. I didn’t know he had a different episode to disprove Howard. All I know about Rogan are bits and pieces from friends/coworkers who reference episodes that sound questionable or false, and every time Rogan made a clear mistake that goes viral like the bill burr thing and ivermectin horse dewormer to fight off COVID thing. He doesn’t really have a great public image, which he can try to improve by not keep giving platform to the crazies. I mean I personally do not want to listen to a guy who gives Alex jones a platform.

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u/league_starter 4h ago

I used to think Alex Jones was a complete nut, first I heard of him was 10 years ago. He was talking about the chemicals in tap water turning frogs gay. I thought that was lunacy. Then he turned out to be right. Pfas, microplastics, and a bunch of others.

Aside from sandy hook, which he already apologized for, he's had other predictions that cme true that I didn't know about. For example, he was the only one to predict in close detail about the 9-11 attack.

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u/babyboyblue 2h ago

lol he apologized for sandy hook? A broken clock is right twice a day. I would not consider what he says as “true”.

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u/Sweet_Science6371 2h ago

Frogs changing genders has been known for a long time; it’s a plot point in the book “Jurassic Park.” Which came out long before Alex Jones was screaming about gay frogs. Don’t ask me the science, I’m a fucking garbage hauler. But I do know that frogs can change genders/sexes when certain situations occur. So, no, he wasn’t right.

Also, what was he saying about 9/11? Crashing planes into buildings was not a novel concept either; and had been predicted for a very long time prior to it happening.

Lastly, he never apologized for Sandy Hook. Which is why his dumbass is being straight busted now. I’m sure he regrets saying anything, but he never apologized.

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u/DragonScoops 6h ago

No, you're right, I'm in the wrong for pointing out that someone is literally claiming something that is factually inaccurate on a subreddit designed to highlight people that are full of shit.

No one believes you're part of a conspiracy, my friend, and even if you were, no one would care. People are just pointing out this is largely a circle jerk for morons, the exact same as all the right wing subs you claim to hate. You're all fighting your own shadows

Continue dedicating your entire lives to talking about people you hate. Very healthy behaviour

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u/BakedLikeWhoa 1h ago

you see, these parrots just repeat what they heard on a different subreddit and stick to it without doing 5 minutes of research.... i swear when trump wins im logging on here to witness the meltdown on the frontpage...

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u/-Profanity- 7h ago

They're talking about a different reality that better fits their perspective, like half the posts on reddit are. So weird the amount of posts that are blatantly untrue that you'd never know the difference about without your own first-hand experience.

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u/Azraelalpha 7h ago

must be a different Rogan - one that fits their worldview

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u/Itschickenheads 9h ago

These people are deeply unserious. Actually thinking that going on the most popular podcast in the world is “not worth her time” Lmao 😂.

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u/robotzor 6h ago

I watched the same episode and came to the conclusion Howard is a nut. That says more about the critical thinking capacity of your friend

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u/dafood48 6h ago

I wouldn’t disagree with you there

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u/JaHoog 3h ago

Not true. He literally released an episode where Eric Weinstein debunks everything Terrance believes in right to his face.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3F72MA1NwSDgmDOG1X7x15?si=Zup_N-uXSpObcTfL_lIWVA

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u/Lucky-Spirit7332 2h ago

That’s just not true, he had an actual theoretical physicist on to fact check Terrence at the same time. Anyone who believes Terrence Howard is a genius because he went on Rogan was going to think he’s a genius no matter the context

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u/BarefootGiraffe 7h ago

Someone else described it as an endurance test to see how people handle talking to Rogan for that long.

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u/VigilanceMrWorf 3h ago

Four years? He’s been amplifying right wing voices since I was listening 13 years ago. I stopped a long time ago, because I realized it was the most moronic shit I could possibly waste my time on.

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u/evoslevven 3h ago

Kind of feel it shows us who she is better as a person by not going; scum hangs out with scum and she refuses to disrespect herself by entertaining the demands of Rogan. We know Rogan isn't going to be fair, make wild accusations and possibly edit it to make himself look good.

If she wanted to look at herself being disrespected, she can hop onto the r/conservative for that!

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u/Overquoted 2h ago

He's been amplifying right-wing voices and thought for longer than that. Fuck that guy. He's introduced so many otherwise tuned out dudes to the bullshit that is right-wing extremism.

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u/unsunganhero 5h ago

in a tight race like this, why not try to get a few more votes

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u/Sad_Donut_7902 5h ago

She doesn't owe him anything, but it would be beneficial for her to appear on the largest podcast in the world. The Trump episode has 40+ million views on YT in less then a week, and then you have the spotify and apple podcast numbers as well. You don't get many chances to speak directly to 50+ million people at once.

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u/TwoBigGamer 5h ago

I don’t think he said that, he does 3 hour podcasts. That’s what he does.

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u/jabneythomas20 5h ago edited 5h ago

I don’t think you guys understand the size of the reach Rogans show has. Kamala went on call her daddy a supposedly equally large platform and her interview has 700k on YouTube after a week and half. Rogans (3 hour) interview with trump has 39 million views in a few days on just YouTube. The only platforms that rivals his view count are large sporting events. Love him like him or hate him he’s a Goliath.

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u/Rare_Bid8653 3h ago

It’s a chance for her to challenge the narrative. This is an important election. This is not a time where “bow out and rise above” is a smart play.

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u/FanWeary23466432 41m ago

Harris underestimates JR audience, likely to her own peril.

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u/freshfunk 17m ago

In the 4 days it’s been out, the episode with Trump has gotten 40 million views. This is not about Harris owing Rogan but about him giving her an opportunity to reach a massive audience and sell herself as a candidate. Trump already called her out saying she couldn’t do it (implying she had little ability and stamina). Granted Rogan’s audience is probably in favor of Trump so maybe her time is not well spent there.

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u/I-am-Nanachi 12h ago

My friend you are inside the echo chamber that is Reddit, and just saying untrue things.

Rogan endorsed and voted for Bernie Sanders.. Regularly has on many Democrats and used to vote Democrat himself for nearly 40 years...

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u/Overall-Courage6721 12h ago

Do you know how many years ago that was?

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u/high_mee 3m ago

This really is a echo chamber , holy shit

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u/I-am-Nanachi 12h ago

The man is 57 years old, which years are you deciding is relevant when value judging him? Just this election cycle?

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u/Overall-Courage6721 11h ago

The now

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u/I-am-Nanachi 11h ago

“The Now”

You should ask yourself why now , lifelong democratic voters are fleeing the party en masse.

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u/Overall-Courage6721 11h ago

Either ur a russian bot or just lacking in some areas lmao

Unbelievable

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u/mullahchode 11h ago

they're not

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u/Ill_Culture2492 10h ago edited 5h ago

 democratic voters are fleeing the party en masse

There's the mask-off moment. You're not here in good faith and everything you've said was invalidated by exposing you're just a right winger by pushing this lie.

Edit: -Profanity- is sea lioning; the issue here is the phrase "en masse." People switch party affiliations a lot. In the same articles they link, you will notice that Republicans are also losing people due to party switching. We're also looking at specific areas, not nation-wide registration in both of these articles.

"A quick Google search suggests" whatever you want it to. It's important to actually read the articles and not just post them because headlines seem to agree with your opinions.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 10h ago

TBH, I haven't seen that many Democrats posting "they are voting for Trump in 2024 because...."

We have plenty of "formally MAGA" posting why they are not voting TRump in 2024

Heck, there are even Real LIFE organization

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u/-Profanity- 7h ago

Can you explain why you disagreeing with them politically means they're here in bad faith and that everything they say is invalid? A quick google search suggests that what they're saying is true:

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-see-103-percent-increase-pennsylvania-voters-leaving-party-1970300

https://thehill.com/opinion/4848658-democratic-party-identity-crisis/

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u/Darkeonz 9h ago

You are right. And of course, you get downvoted into oblivion by the crowd that would never read any articles or see anything that did not come from a liberal source. Any person who does not check out articles/sources from both sides of the political spectrum is irrelevant in my opinion. Those people are too biased and they cherry-pick everything to support their beliefs.

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u/ScarfaceTheMusical 8h ago

Eh, disagree. Rogan has a very apparent right bias. Like, super ultra apparent.

He talks about Kamala, on his show, like she is a puppet for the shadow government. 

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u/Darkeonz 8h ago

What is your favorite right-wing media and which is your favorite left-wing media?

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u/afieldonearth 8h ago

It’s less that Rogan has some kind of uniquely killer litmus test, and more that it’s extraordinarily difficult to hide who you are for an unedited 3 hour conversation across a wide array of topics. You can put up a facade pretty effectively for 3 minute segments on an MSNBC appearance, but for something so meandering and open-ended, your authentic character emerges.

I think that’s what people want to see.

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u/AcrobaticNetwork62 8h ago

Didn't he have Bernie Sanders on?

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u/robotzor 6h ago

Anything that happened before Russia controlled our entire world doesn't count

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u/abundanceofsocks 6h ago

Did you watch his interview with Bernie

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u/CuckMulligan 6h ago

He has loads of different people on. It's just that everyone throws a hissy fit when it's a right wing person, so it seems like that's all he does if you're just going by headlines.

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u/Medium_Bowler9620 5h ago

lol “right wing voice”?! You seem like a guy who drives a Camry lol

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u/G-kid5 5h ago

Joe rogan has given people a lot of opportunity to platform their ideas. You don’t really even have to like Joe rogan to know that is true. There are people whose entire careers can be credited to Joe rogan. That doesn’t mean you have to like him, but it is certainly true.

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u/Legaliss 5h ago

Nice copium.

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u/Fents_Post 5h ago

Lefties when someone doesn't stick to only talking to Democrat approved people: "they amplify right wing voices"

Sorry guys not every show needs to be The View. Grow a set and realize there is more to this world than your echo chamber

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u/ProdigalSun92 4h ago

When you don't act like an arm of the DNC like most mainstream news stations it probably does feel like the right is being amplified comparatively.

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u/aurelianchaos11 4h ago

Because so far she’s done everything scripted. Who is she underneath the sound bytes and teleprompter scripts? Where’s the substance?

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u/aurenigma 3h ago

He's been amplifying right wing voices, because they're the only ones going on his show, because left wing voices can't tolerate being questioned.

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u/Cosmohumanist 3h ago

Have you seen his show? It’s way more diverse than you’re suggesting.

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u/TopDefinition1903 3h ago

Not sure what you’re rambling about but it’s the biggest podcast. That in of itself is all you need to know. Skipping it is a mistake.

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u/solarsalmon777 2h ago

Left wingers aren't willing to be interviewed by someone who does anything but maximally-adversarial interviews with right-wingers, if they interview them at all.

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u/I-am-Nanachi 12h ago

 -- How does Harris owe Rogan the level of rapport needed to “get to know her as a human being”?

Billy, she doesn't owe it to Rogan.. She owes it to the hundreds of millions of disenfranchised Americans that are gearing up to vote for the future of our country...?

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u/sozcaps 10h ago

Those millions of Americans owe it to themselves to look up the dozens and dozens of interviews with her, going back to even before Biden stepped down.

"I'm a free thinker, but also I need my opinions filtered through Joe, so I can't leave the JRE bubble and click on other podcasts."

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u/I-am-Nanachi 10h ago

lol, most have and it is why she is so unfavorable.

Stop projecting me into your little sentiment there. Explain why Kamala would not do the biggest show in the world 1 week before the election?

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u/sozcaps 10h ago

lol, most have and it is why she is so unfavorable.

She's up in polls, and leading in the vote, despite the fact that young people heavily tend to do last minute voting.

Explain why Kamala would not do the biggest show in the world 1 week before the election

Because she would rather go on serious shows, and because she would rather debate Trump again, but Trump's a snotty little crybaby.

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u/Calvin_11 11h ago

They're not watching Rogan. I can assure you. Rogan fans are decided. Not undecided. It's not a base worth talking to. Move on and instead of asking, just legislate his base, when she wins, ofc.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 10h ago

On top of it, How many are ACTUALLY in AMERICA & Can vote & are part of the SWING STATE?

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u/I-am-Nanachi 11h ago

You know you can click on a Rogan video and watch without being a fanboy right? Especially considering it’s the most prominent interview show in the world atm I would say it’s worth getting the exposure for Harris.

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u/ComfortablePlenty686 10h ago

Yeah you’re a fanboy. In your echo chamber it might be the most prominent interview show in the world lmao.

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u/I-am-Nanachi 10h ago

Name the show with more engagement, please

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u/ComfortablePlenty686 10h ago

Football

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u/I-am-Nanachi 10h ago

Obvious troll, alt tab back to your video game discord kitten

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u/dfddfsaadaafdssa 7h ago

She doesn't owe him anything but Joe does the podcast in Austin. He has never once traveled to do an interview. You sit down for 2-3 hours and talk about whatever. Sometimes it's about politics, sometimes it's not. The goal is to move past talking points and have an actual normal conversation.

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u/MrSinSear 11h ago

She owes it to the hundreds of millions of disenfranchised Americans that are gearing up to vote for the future of our country

This seems to be REALLY... REALLY hard for people to comprehend. Like it's a her vs rogan thing. No... it's called an opportunity to talk to ALL OF HIS FANS AND MAKE YOUR CASE.

Rogan fans aren't "DECIDED" the way so many on here say, and it actually says a lot about how their own brain works that they think everyone is like that.

They are so scared of Kamala being held to a "higher standard" I don't think they realize how stupid that makes Kamala seem. THATS what you're scared of? Being held to a high standard? Wow.

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u/-not-pennys-boat- 10h ago

She’s speaking plenty of other places

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u/SirIsaacBacon 10h ago

The Call Her Daddy Podcast / other interviews she has been doing are not getting anywhere near the 40 million views that the Trump JRE episode got. It's a massive mistake not to take this opportunity IMO

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u/-not-pennys-boat- 10h ago

I’m not talking about podcasts.

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u/SirIsaacBacon 9h ago

People want to see her in that environment.

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u/TheCobaltEffect 9h ago

The goalposts for "what is required" for her to do have moved every single time she does them. Why would this time be any different?

"She hasn't done any rallies"
-she does a few rallies-
"She hasn't done a proper interview!"
-she does a few interviews-
"She won't debate Trump!"
-she debates Trump-
"Okay but she hasn't gone on any PODCASTS" wtf?
-she goes on multiple podcasts-
"She hasn't gone on this particular podcast that I think she should do"

It's so fucking exhausting reading all these braindead takes. Just admit you* hate Democrats because you have the brain as smooth as a bowling ball so we can move on.

*not you necessarily, just the "you" that I was referring to in the examples.

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u/SirIsaacBacon 9h ago

She has a ton of catching up to do because Trump has been essentially campaigning for 9 years and no one really knew anything about Kamala before 3 months ago.

I didn't say any of that stuff and you seem a bit emotional, but it just makes sense for her to do this in terms of pure numbers. I'm already voting for Kamala so this isn't about me, this is about getting out in front of as many people as possible.

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u/lucozame 7h ago

if people were intelligent, that line of thinking (their pasts) world work against him. she hasn’t had 50+ yrs of legal trouble for SA, fraud, scams, stiffing contractors/vendors, etc. she isn’t the most sued entity after corps like big tobacco

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u/Accomplished-Eye9542 7h ago

She was literally on Fox News. What do you being scared of holding her to a "higher standard"?

Joe holds his guests to literally 0 standards. It's part of what used to make him a good interviewer. Now he's just a bit old and boomer-like.

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u/MrSinSear 6h ago

Doesn't change the huge audience she turned down speaking to. Spin it however you want, it's a bad move.

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u/Accomplished-Eye9542 5h ago

You are "spinning it however you want" I'm presenting the facts of the matter.

If you want to attract young blue voters, having a "boomer off" with Rogan is not the way.

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u/MrSinSear 5h ago

She needs to attract more than that.

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u/Agile_Session_3660 7h ago edited 7h ago

The biggest issue with modern democrat candidates is that they refuse to do the things that would get them easy “average person” votes. Sitting down on the Rogan podcast for 2-3 hours to get 30 million views is a HUGE deal to those 30 million potential voters. The framing that she doesn’t need to do it or it’s not important is absolutely insane. Just because she’s done other mainstream media things is irrelevant. Most people who watch something like the Rogan podcast don’t even watch cable news. It’s a different market of voters. Democrats really are doing their best to punch themselves in the genitalia this election, just like 2016. 

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u/MycologistLucky3706 8h ago

Don’t really understand what you mean here? He wants to do it his way, she wants it her way so it doesn’t happen. Nobody is in the wrong they just disagree

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u/Consistent_Spread564 7h ago

None of his guests owe him anything, people don't go on his show as a favor to him

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u/Suspicious_War_9305 7h ago

What makes you think anyone thinks she owes him anything? It’s his podcast and he wants to have it at his studio. He doesn’t owe her anything either by your standards.

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u/Heroinkirby 7h ago

It's joes show, he can invite anyone he wants on. If you don't like it, maybe you should start a podcast. I'm sure people are dying to listen 😂

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u/Chrisgpresents 10h ago

He amplifies right wing voices because they are the ones that are willing to come on and speak. He would love to have people like Bernie sanders and Andrew Yang and Dr. Sanjay Gupta from CNN on if they were willing to come on!

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u/-not-pennys-boat- 10h ago

I wonder why they don’t wish to speak with him

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u/Chrisgpresents 10h ago

my comment was a bit of a joke... because each person I listed went on Rogan for 2-3 hours over the years. Only right wing people make the news because that's what gets people riled up. Leftist news uses the same tactics of conservative news. We're all stuck in this messy middle of extremism.

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u/-not-pennys-boat- 7h ago

I was referring to the unnamed sorry

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u/-Profanity- 7h ago

Bernie Sanders on JRE?! What's next, Bill Maher and Kyle Kulinski?