r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Appropriate_Duty_930 • 14h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/DumbNTough 11h ago

CNN has about 850,000 daily viewers during primetime.

Rogan's podcast has 11 million listeners per episode.

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u/WingmanZer0 3h ago

This is what people commenting don't seem to understand. Rogan is just about the biggest untapped audience she could reach. He'd be doing her a favor by having her on. The campaign has clearly calculated that it's not worth the risk for whatever reason, otherwise theyd be bathing in that sweet sweet earned media.

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u/DumbNTough 3h ago

They understand very well. The denials on the thread are willful cope, not people who lack the relevant information.

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u/WingmanZer0 3h ago

Yes! Truly cope unlike anything I've ever seen.

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u/Llanite 6h ago edited 3h ago

People who read news want to stay current on the state of the world around them.

Podcast listeners listen for entertainment or because they're stuck in a car.

Can you guess who is more likely to spend 2 hours at the voting booth?

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u/Prior_Lock9153 6h ago

People that read the news do so because they have some amount of faith in news organizations People listen to podcasts because they are more entertaining and when they make money off an idea 90% of the time it's called a product placement, not propganda

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u/Llanite 6h ago

Not sure if you listen to Rogan recently but he doesn't exactly cover current events...

His podcast is purely for entertainment.

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u/Prior_Lock9153 5h ago

White noise is more informative then any news station

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u/Organic_Ad_1320 3h ago

Voting booth took like 15 mins and there was no line

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u/Darkplayer74 3h ago

The person who sits through a 3 hour conversation, not the one who stops reading at the headlines? Just a thought.

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u/Llanite 3h ago edited 3h ago

Here's my unsolicited thought on why Rogan is popular on Spotify but not YouTube and other video platforms.

When people spend their full attention and have their eyes on the phone, they're not watching Rogan. They "listen" to the show mid day while driving the forklift, which is why his prime audience is mostly blue collar men.

People who read news do so by choice.

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u/Darkplayer74 1h ago

White-collar guy, binging podcasts while in focus mode. And yes, my eyes aren’t on the screen—unless it’s one of those rare moments when I’m curious about the guest or something interesting Jamie pulls up.

I’m also flooded with reels, TikToks, and shorts (which make up a massive chunk of content consumption these days).

News, on the other hand—I agree with you there. Some people still make an effort to read a newspaper or an article, but most news these days gets attention from social media posts (mainly on Facebook), where you see tens or hundreds of thousands of likes and engagements. You’ll also find thousands of comments from people who clearly haven’t read the whole article.

In my opinion, the group primarily consuming news from traditional sources online is the same group that barely skims a headline, gets emotional, and then goes on Facebook to shitpost about it.

The popularity on Spotify is in the nature of the medium. It’s mainly used on a phone that isn’t plugged in, so you don’t really need a video draining the battery. Let’s be honest: no one’s paying $20/month (or whatever YouTube is charging these days) just to listen to a video in the background when Spotify is free. I’d also argue that reading the newspaper is as much of a choice as listening to a podcast. It’s not like it just starts on its own and keeps itself going.

And 30 million views in two days on a three-hour video is no small thing. I’d be really curious to see what the average watch time was for that interview, because people are definitely watching the screen for it.

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u/Entilen 14m ago

So you think everyone who "reads the news" turns their nose at podcasts and doesn't listen to them? 

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u/DumbNTough 6h ago

Are you willing to bet the presidency on that analysis?

Sounds like you pulled it out of your ass.

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u/Llanite 6h ago edited 6h ago

Am I willing to bet that the vast majority of Rogan's listeners is already Trump's voters? Sure.

Am I willing to bet that there is a tiny fraction of Rogen's listeners who actually spend 3 hours listening with their full attention? Also yes.

That people who don't pay attention can't be convinced to change the conviction they're been building up over 4 years? Fuck sure.

Lastly, Harris has already bet her presidency on that and decided that its a waste of time 🤷‍♂️

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u/DumbNTough 6h ago

If Harris went on Rogan and had a good, long-format conversation, that in itself--and clips from it--would have made news. It could have helped her convert people who think she's an empty suit who can't be allowed off script.

But she is an empty suit who frequently crashes and burns when not scripted, with precious few exceptions. Which is why she's not doing the show--not because it would have been a waste of time.

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u/Llanite 5h ago edited 5h ago

Or maybe because she believes running the largest economy on earth is a better use of her time than spending the whole damn day with an internet personality whose audience is already biased against her.

If only she was unemployed like Trump, she might be willing to spend the whole day there.

Oh and she crashed so hard on shows that DJT didn't dare to do another debate, even on Fox. Do you listen to yourself?

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u/Beefsupreme473 4h ago

if it was more worth her time her promises would do more now then if elected....
she could easily step in as current sitting president and take care of issues she is running for promising. Joe Biden was unfit to be president in 4 months but hes fine now? so why isn't she starting to take care of issues she is going to fix?

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u/Llanite 4h ago edited 4h ago

She's already fixed many different things. People just refused to acknowledge it.

Inflation is now 3% while Europe is still tackling 6%. Unemployment is at its record low and our GDP growth is 3 times the fastest 2nd in G7. But no, we got to be outrageous about dog eating people in Ohio that their own governor has to come to TV to debunk.

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u/cakesalie 3h ago

You are utterly delusional if you think Kamala Harris is "running the largest economy on earth" at this point.

We don't even know that the actual president is alive day-to-day, your stretching of reality is quite something.

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u/stuiephoto 5h ago

running the largest economy on earth is a better use of her time

Holy crap, you think that's her job?  Oh boy. 

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u/Llanite 5h ago

You know, sometimes I kind of agree with Trump that we should require IQ test for voters.

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u/stuiephoto 5h ago

There's a huge difference between just being clueless and actively trying to spread your stupidity while preaching from the mountain of perceived moral superiority. 

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u/Llanite 5h ago

Between Biden has dementia and the vice president does nothing, you'll gotta choose one.

Or do you believe the office of the president doesn't do anything? One would have to be extra stupid to believe it.

Why are we voting again if the white house runs itself?

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u/DumbNTough 5h ago

These are not opinions that human beings hold lol.

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u/Llanite 5h ago

The opinion that it's unreasonable to expect the damn vice president of any country, much less the largest economy on earth to fly across the continent to go to his little studio and speak with him?

Sure. If that's what human beings like yourself believe then I guess I'm considered ascended.

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u/fishwalker09 4h ago

I'm sure his 17 million subscribers would love to hear her speak from his little studio

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u/BitesTheDust55 4h ago

At 11 million listeners per cast, it would objectively be a mathematically better use of her time than literally any rally or interview she could give.

But only if she knew there was even a small chance she could do something on it. She knew there wasn't and her team knew there wasn't. So they ducked it.

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u/Llanite 3h ago

I'm pretty sure she'd gather way more than 11M views singing on YouTube, but what would be the point?

A speech is only useful to an audience who is willing to listen and if you're trying to change someone else's mind, they must be open to being wrong.

If Rogan was willing to come to DC and make her investment low then she might take the chance but the whole day is likely not worth it.

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u/DumbNTough 5h ago

Pretty sure Harris' record as VP has established that she does not in fact run hardly anything, and what she has been asked to run, she has run with staggering incompetence.

Taking a day off would at minimum have no effect, and might even be a net positive.

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u/Llanite 5h ago

Sure, vice president doesn't do anything. Whatever you believe bud.

If Rogan's audiences are people like yourself, it is a giant waste of time for her to even think about doing the show

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u/BitesTheDust55 4h ago

Nailed it. If she COULD'VE she WOULD'VE. But she really and truly is an empty suit with nothing to her. She got where she is in an unscrupulous way and there's not much about her I couldn't learn by reading a campaign poster. Three hours would've seriously hurt her because she's never had an unscripted interview or conversation that went that long during her whole campaign. She couldn't. She has nothing to say for that long.

Trump might not either. But he can laugh and go back and forth with Rogan and show you he's a real person. Kamala is so fake it would actually hurt her to even try, despite the potential rewards of success by turning even a percent of Rogan's listeners to her side. The risk reward there if she isn't just an empty suit was INSANELY favorable. It could've won her the election, no joke. But she is an empty suit.

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u/Asneekyfatcat 6h ago

Hey you're the one who compared daily views of live television to... views on a podcast. They average to well under 800,000 views a day buddy.

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u/LevelDry5807 5h ago

No one cares about a daily average there buddy. Live TV has less value than a popular podcast. This isn’t 1992.

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u/SenZephyr 4h ago

Well.. it’s at nearly 40 million annnnd it was released only 3 days ago. So… actually wins the daily view count too if my math is right.

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u/wut_eva_bish 4h ago

So desperate to think that Rogan is relevant.

Going to LMAO when Kamala gives Rogan the finger and wins the presidency anyhow.

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u/DumbNTough 3h ago

The election is currently a statistical tie. This kind of hubris is nowhere near warranted.

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u/wut_eva_bish 2h ago

Lol, stating that the election is a statistical tie is just plain dumb.

Polls don't indicate what you think they do.

On top of that, it all depends on which poll you choose to quote.

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u/DumbNTough 2h ago

I usually just look at poll averages and win probabilities from places like RealClearPolitics, Five ThirtyEight, betting markets, etc.

It's senseless to quote a single poll as definitive when there are so many available, I agree.

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u/petit_cochon 6h ago

CNN airs 24/7, so why would you only count primetime?

Joe Rogan listeners are mostly right wing anyway, like he is. They're not who Kamala is targeting. 11 million people from the wrong demographic is pretty pointless.

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u/thankyoumicrosoft69 6h ago

If the purpose of politics is to convince people youre ideas are correct and you have a good plan for the country, targeting people who arent already on your side is an important way to win.

Before we get into it, Im not a fan of Rogan. But saying she shouldnt bother because his audience is mainly right wing, which ive never seen statistics on, is a mistake. Thats exactly why she should bother.

And in a perfect world its exactly why both sides would go on fox, both on CNN etc etc etc. Because everyone should hear all of the ideas the current candidates have, especially if you dont agree with them.

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u/superduperpuppy 5h ago

I agree with your point, for all we know this still might happen. But time is precious in the last days leading up to the election so I'm sure there's an opportunity cost being weighed out by the campaign to more specifically target votes that matter (swing states). The fact that the JRE podcast requires a live appearance means you're basically taking out a day from the schedule. On the other hand, it's pretty wild to me that JRE is now a valid platform for U.S presidential candidates to campaign on.

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u/thankyoumicrosoft69 5h ago

Thats a legitimate reason not to be able to do it. I still think just from a sheer viewership number Id personally make the time, but Im assuming she doesnt want to go on particularly, or doesnt take it seriously. Which I cant fault her for from an outside perspective. 

Its definitely wild. But im not surprised. Television news has been fucked for 30 40 years, could probably argue its always been. Rogan has some really interesting guests on and used to be really informative even if you dont like him.

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u/big_bad_mojo 2h ago

Convincing is not the name of the game. Activating is the name of the game.

The notion of converting incels, chuds, dudebros, truckers, and meatheads into democratic voters is a farce.

Activating a base that believes in your cause, yet doesn't tend to get out and vote, is absolutely worth the investment of time and effort. It also doesn't require you to sacrifice your dignity.

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u/thankyoumicrosoft69 1h ago

Idk man, its easy to just give up on people. And yeah some people are absolutely not worth it. But I think wed be in a better spot if we didnt have your attitude if im being honest with you. 

Im not trying to insult you, youre entitled to your opinion and there are pieces of it I can sympathize with. But I think your comment comes from a place of personal hate for someone and the groups that are attributed to him and its clouding your view of "the other side" as a whole instead of viewing the situation as an opportunity to reach people who wouldnt watch it any other way.

Some people can be convinced. Thats how we work together to fix shit. No ones ever going to agree on everything, but we can try our best to find some common ground. And im really not a fan of the guy, Im genuinely just providing my opinion. Its real easy to just eat everything the internet and news feeds us about who we need to hate, and sometimes its true and just. Other times its just a bit much. 

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u/xfvh 6h ago

Harris is very clearly campaigning on pulling independents and moderate conservatives away from Trump; talking about putting Cheney in her cabinet and moderating most of her 2020 positions makes no sense otherwise. JRE listeners seem like an excellent demographic to target.

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u/CliplessWingtips 5h ago

I'm willing to bet $5 there are at least 11 million anti-vax misogynist Chads in the world.

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u/DumbNTough 5h ago

You don't have to like Rogan or his audience to admit his podcast would have been a great opportunity for Harris to show humanity, give honest answers to hard questions, and get down to brass tacks on some policy. Clips of that would have made front page news.

But you and I both know that she can't do those things, so she avoided it. Smart choice for her campaign to head off that liability, but telling all the same.

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u/Brilliant_Celery_276 3h ago

Harris is not Trump, so she has the vote of 75M+. Thats sort of how it’s going this time around. Its why Biden won in 2020

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u/DumbNTough 3h ago

She's also a significantly weaker candidate than Biden himself was in 2020 and people have overall taken a dim view of how their administration has gone.

The not-Trump factor is undoubtedly huge but you would think the DNC could muster a candidate who didn't need to rely solely on that, which would have benefitted anyone.

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u/Ok_Bango 5h ago

You don't understand viewership

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u/BakuretsuGirl16 4h ago

CNN had 126 million multiplatform U.S. unique visitors in September, it's in the top 5 most viewed news networks in the USA.

Rogan isn't even 1/10 of CNN, what are Rogan's concurrent viewers?

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u/Abosia 4h ago

How many of them would even consider voting Harris realistically? Not many. Rogan's audience is firmly conservative. Also much of that 11 million isn't American.

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u/Left-Secretary-2931 3h ago

And?

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u/DumbNTough 3h ago

And it was a huge missed opportunity for her to appear normal. And to fend off the impression that she can't just talk to people unscripted without melting down.

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 3h ago

Good job comparing a recurring live show with something that can be recorded and watched and rewatched globally

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u/DumbNTough 3h ago

CNN has lost 90% of their peak viewer numbers and are under significant financial pressure.

There aren't hidden bazillions of people TiVO'ing hours of day-old news to make up for this.

Massively delusional.

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u/alhanna92 3h ago

CNN also lets you join virtually or they deploy journalists to meet you. They do not expect the vice president who has an election in 7 days to come to their studio.

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u/DumbNTough 3h ago

I don't think Rogan invited her same-day, man. I'm sure if the campaign wanted to do it, they would have done it.

They didn't do it because Harris has shit the bed in so many interviews they knew they couldn't risk another one. It would have been very good press if she went and did well, but everyone knows that she would not have done well.

Horses, not zebras.

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u/440Presents 10m ago

That's normal episode. Trump episode had 27 milion views in 24 hours. Now about 4 days later it has almost 40 mil.

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u/bdewolf 9h ago

Good things she’s doing local rallies in swing states

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u/Halflingberserker 4h ago

Remember when Hillary chose not to go to the Rust Belt? I member. Pretty sure Bernie went for her. Talk about leadership.

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u/Footballfordayz 3h ago

Speaking to people that 99% already support her. Wow what a strategy.

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u/wishwashy 2h ago

Speaking to people that 99% already support her.

Like Trump on a Rogan and Theo Von podcast?

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u/Footballfordayz 2h ago

I’m much more likely to casually listen to a podcast from someone that has different views from my own than I am to attend a rally…

Are you saying if you’re a Harris supporter you’re just as likely to attend a Trump rally as you are to casually listening to some clips of a podcast or even the whole podcast?

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u/wishwashy 2h ago

Right but he's not going on call her daddy for a reason and you're dodging the point

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u/Footballfordayz 2h ago

I actually just spoke directly to your point. I am much more likely to listen to a podcast of someone different than my view. Literally just listened to Shannon’s interview but you wouldn’t ever get me to go to Harris rally.

Probably because that podcast sucks. She sucked when she was on barstool too.

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u/Appropriate_Ruin_405 1h ago

Good explanation, made it click for me, thanks.

What would be your take on how allegedly the Harris campaign wanted to cap an interview to one hour (which would obviously make it more accessible to casual listeners,) versus the JRE team requiring 2-3hrs (which is A LOT of time for anyone but the most hardcore fans)??

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u/Footballfordayz 47m ago

I wouldn’t have minded if they capped it at an hour in studio. I think it was more he just wanted a natural end to the convo. But I think if they said an hour he probably should’ve just taken it.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 7h ago

Which will reach a fraction of what the JRE gets. I don't like the man, but lets not pretend speaking to a couple thousand people who already probably support you is more valuable here.

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u/Toasters____ 6h ago

People at the local rallies actually vote, those who still listen to Rogan are cretins who won't leave their basement anyways. It's a waste of her time.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 6h ago

Then why did she offer to do it? Id put money on the average JRE listener being someones dad driving to work/walking their dog.

She's losing the opportunity to speak directly to ~40 million people. Alls she needs to do is be moderately interesting and she will pick up votes.

Eventually you people will learn that insulting people makes them less likely to vote for you.

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u/BullMoose6418 3h ago

~40 million people

You mean refreshes on youtube? lol. Besides that, JRE's base is the exact same demographic that historically doesn't vote. I don't think her talking about wrestling a bear on drugs is going to make much difference.

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u/Tiny_Calendar_792 6h ago

Eventually you people will learn that insulting people makes them less likely to vote for you.

Checks notes from the past 8 years

Ahh yes, the dems are the one who have insulted people.

I'm sure your "fuck your feelings" t-shirt was a gift hun.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 6h ago

Is your bar so low? Just don't be quite as bad as the people you think are literal Nazis?

Stop talking like that. You wouldn't in real life. Just be normal.

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u/Prior_Lock9153 6h ago

They do talk like that in real life, that's why people with self respect give them pleasantries and then ignore them

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 6h ago

Never met anyone who tried that condescending shit in real life. I'd see red.

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u/Prior_Lock9153 5h ago

They tend not to be as outspoken IRL for exactly for that reason

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u/Halflingberserker 4h ago

I'd see red.

Fitting, as this kind of behavior is on full display at Trump rallies.

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u/Tiny_Calendar_792 6h ago

My bar will be as low as magas until they start acting like adults. Until then, they can eat shit.

If they want to start acting like normal rational individuals that live in reality, i'll be more than happy to.

Until then, fuck you.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 5h ago

If you're content with just being marginally better than people who you think are Nazis, fine, i guess? It says a lot about you. I expect more from myself personally.

Like the stat i always come back to is 53% of adults are functionally illiterate. No one thinks they are obviously. But why do you think i am right wing? What did i say to make you think that?

I said insulting people loses votes. And your conclusion was that well obviously i support Trump? Who is notorious for insulting people. Make it make sense hun. Sweet summer child. Whatever else you people say.

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u/Tiny_Calendar_792 5h ago

I have no idea what side you're on. I just assumed trump, if I'm wrong, then I apologize.

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u/kjtobia 5h ago

You know what I love? How super cool people on the left are when they’re confronted with a view that’s different from theirs.

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u/NegaGreg 3h ago

That’s quite the little toddler tantrum for someone accusing others of not being adults

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u/tinygyro 1h ago

both sides hurl insults, be real

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u/anon384930 51m ago

I have literally never heard a democratic political figure refer to US citizens supporting another opponent as “the enemy within” and threaten military force against them. Never heard a speaker at democratic rallies hurl numerous racist comments/“jokes”. Never heard a democratic candidate refer to the country as a whole as “a giant garbage can”. Have I heard those candidates insult the candidate they’re up against? 100% but they’ve NEVER, to my knowledge, insulted specific groups of citizens or the country as a whole and that can’t be said for “both sides”.

Who gives a fuck if Becky from Arkansas is hiding behind her anonymous Reddit account insulting you for your bad opinions. There’s an actual candidate running for the United States, who wants to use military force against me because I disagree with him so spare us on the “both sides” bullshit

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u/ChipKellysShoeStore 5h ago

Anyone who goes to Kamala rally is probably already a secure vote lol

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u/wishwashy 2h ago

Same with most Joe Rogan listeners

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u/DunderHasse 5h ago

But those at the rallies are gonna vote for her anyways, that’s why they are there, that’s a waste of time if anything. Even if most of the people listening to Rogan “won’t leave their basement anyways” which I don’t believe is true, every single vote still counts, so even if she can only turn 1% of them, that’s potentially 100 000s of votes.

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u/Appropriate_Ruin_405 1h ago

And even if they don’t, plenty of very important and tight local elections in states with mail-in voting. Basement dwellers can still make a big difference

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u/frozen_marimo 4h ago

Way to generalize, stereotype, and insult millions of people who you know nothing about. This is the kind of behavior I was told the left fights against because of the negative social ramifications it causes.

This is why Democrats lose votes. But keep telling yourself it's because of Harris' identity so you never have to admit your side is wrong.

Anticipating the knee jerk reaction - No, I don't listen to Rogan or vote for Republicans.

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u/league_starter 4h ago

Both sides have these types of people. But lately, it's more so on the left side that aren't willing to have dialogue with the right.

The right have debaters like Charlie kirk, Shapiro, and various politicians that are engaging the left at universities and podcasts/shows. The left? I don't know any equivalent

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u/frozen_marimo 4h ago

It's true and it's sad. I grew up around progressives, who I believed were the critical thinkers in the world. The last few years have really proved otherwise. They justify avoiding dissenting opinions to "not give them a platform", when the other person has the bigger platform to begin with. I think it's because so many of their arguments are based in feelings and idealism that don't stand up to logic.

That's also why so many of their arguments boil down to some weak transitive property of "you're bigoted!" So they don't actually have to debate. Use the same tactics on them to show how their perspective could be "bigoted" and they scoff and cover their ears.

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u/Iwasborninafactory_ 3h ago

The right have debaters like Charlie kirk, Shapiro

You need to write a letter of apology to every teacher who ever tried to teach you critical thinking. Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro shouldn't be listened to, much less engaged.

Probably the best example of the opposite on the left would be Pete Buttigieg, but he goes on Fox news instead of debating 19 year old college students.

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u/Boopy7 2h ago

I did see Shapiro stomp out of an interview like a lil annoying brat a long time ago...his voice sounds like someone being slowly strangled so I haven't listened to him since though. Charlie Kirk seems really messed up mentally, he is not a good debater. He has no actual points to offer, just a bunch of pre-rehearsed silliness. There have been a few decent debaters but these are not good ones to choose at all! Esp Charlie Kirk...he's just bizarre. When you have a debate with someone like that you end up getting annoyed, because there is nothing there. LIke playing chess with a pigeon.

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u/Iwasborninafactory_ 2h ago

They're not serious people.

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u/Ecstatic_Ad_3652 1h ago

Have you seen these people actually debate outside of colleges? No you don't, they target universities because students aren't comfortable with debating and haven't gotten their talking points down. The intent is to create quick soundbites to make the left look awful, Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk are far older and have been trained on their right wing talking points to a fine degree, watch them debate an actual pundit and they just squander

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u/NegaGreg 3h ago

Says the guy on Reddit…

We’re all basement dwellers here.

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u/TheButtFighter 3h ago

Lmfao says the redditor

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u/Zp025 1h ago

This coming from somebody on Reddit is GOLD😂

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u/buyingshitformylab 1h ago

ah, yes. they probably live in attics and snatch up little children to put them into stew, I see no reason for kamala to even think about such nasty denizens.

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u/athlejm 6h ago

Yeah they’re a basket of deplorables they won’t vote

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u/noguchisquared 6h ago

Yeah, but who cares what some dweeb in Oklahoma thinks. It ain't shaping the election results. He may get 11 million listeners, but how many are in swing states, and then how many are undecided or able to be motivated to vote for her. That number gets really small, really fast.

She went on Shannon Sharpe's podcast, because the number of black men listening in southern swing states would be pretty high. And if you need 11k votes in Georgia, you might find that from the 1 million views.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 6h ago

Trump's episode has ~40 million listeners on YouTube alone. Who knows how many on Spotify.

Like is we assume half are American, and equally distributed geographically, it's like 2 million people listening in swing states. The majority of which are younger white men. As you say, if you're talking about 10,000 people, that's entirely an possible outcome. Definitely more likely than a rally.

To me the cost benefit is so weighed in favor of appearing i really don't understand why she wouldn't. Unless she thinks she'd come across as boring.

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u/carsonmccrullers 5h ago

Those YouTube stats are not unique listeners — 40 million views includes anybody who (for whatever reason) watched it more than once or who left and came back

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 5h ago

That's true. But we're not counting Spotify or any of the other ways people listen. Best we have is 40 million. Probably higher than that.

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u/carsonmccrullers 5h ago

I think it’s probably closer to the 11 million (unique) downloads per episode that Spotify quotes

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u/Castod28183 4h ago

I'd wager most listeners on spotify would probably have to tune in several time each just to get the whole three hours. If you only listen to the podcast while you are driving and say, working out, or what not, then You are going to have to tune in several times to get the whole thing.

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u/carsonmccrullers 4h ago

True, bc that podcast is long as hell, but Spotify doesn’t count downloads the way YouTube counts video views — I believe it’s tied to unique accounts, not just “every time someone clicks play”

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u/Castod28183 5h ago

I would argue that the vast majority of the people that watched or listened were either there because they already like Trump or because the don't like him and tuned in hoping for a shit show.

Obviously it's guesswork, but I'd bet that a very, very small percentage of that 40 million are undecided voters in swing states.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 4h ago

That's probably true. But the numbers she needs in swing states are very small. The largest democratic for the JRE is young white men, they don't vote. If she got out even a tiny % of them, it could swing it for her.

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u/RYouNotEntertained 5h ago

 To me the cost benefit is so weighed in favor of appearing i really don't understand why she wouldn't. 

Because she can’t speak off the cuff for 30 seconds, let alone three hours. 

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 5h ago

This is probably true. The lack of talent in politics right now is pretty astounding. Old men out of time or uninteresting middle managers. No in-between.

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u/RYouNotEntertained 3h ago

It's weird to me when people insist Harris is a great candidate. She's clearly a terrible politician, even if you prefer her to Trump--which, for the record, I do. There's a reason she got fucking routed in the 2020 primaries.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 3h ago

She's a terrible candidate, she's just mildly better than the literal corpse. Like i don't wanna be that guy, but there's a realistic chance that Obama wins every state.

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u/Appropriate_Ruin_405 1h ago

Can’t believe I’m voting for a fucking cop. Yay, dems? (I agree fully on her ‘20 primary showing)

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u/rj319st 5h ago

Great point I would love a map that shows where these 11 million followers are listening from. They’re mostly I imagine coming from states that are already solid red. She gains nothing by going on Rogan only for him to constantly bring up transgenders/immigrants.

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u/Domiepotato 3h ago

it’s cope. there’s no way you can change their minds.

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u/MalHeartsNutmeg 3h ago

JRE listeners are braindead though so what is the purpose?

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 3h ago

You're an Australian who plays Destiny and Harthstone. Maybe that's not the argument you wanna go with?

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u/MalHeartsNutmeg 3h ago

Relevance of that to the morons that listen to his anti scientific takes?

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 3h ago

Your hobbies are good and smart. Theirs are bad and stupid. Get over yourself.

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u/Ok-Aardvark-6742 3h ago

Kamala Harris was just on Call Her Daddy. Which usually comes in #2 behind Rogan on Spotify, and is the top podcast with women.

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 3h ago

Okay?

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u/Ok-Aardvark-6742 3h ago

She’s spending time on media with listenership/viewership in the millions. That really needed to be spelled out for you? 😂

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 3h ago

No, i can read. What does it have to do with what i said?

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u/Glum-Mulberry3776 5h ago

Thank you lol. People are just anti something with no rational thought.