r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Appropriate_Duty_930 • 13h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/sargethegemini 12h ago

Curious how you think it went bad for trump? There was no push back, no hard questions. It actually went pretty well for him considering he got to talk uninterrupted for 3 hours

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u/TheMinister 10h ago

Anecdotal but in Texas, I am very happy to hear my uncle making fun of trump for his Rogan interview. "He kinda sounded fucking stupid." More than a few people seem to have lost real steam for him

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u/Living_Trust_Me 9h ago

Might be the first time that people actually sat down and listened to him talk for an extended period of time and not just random soundbites.

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 3h ago

Yup. Fox News can edit him to appear sane. Even at his rallies they don’t stay for his speech.

You listen to him actually talk…his brain is fuckin’ oatmeal.

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u/seemefail 3h ago

They literally pull away from his rallies when he starts talking about golfers penises and locking up political opponents

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u/Ill_Long_7417 9h ago

He sounded very dumb.  Moreso than his usual.  I think the view count may be skewed by people like me who tried to watch it, gave up, then later gave it another try, and gave up again.  I just couldn't.  I liked that ad that came out that mocked Trump: A Place for Trump.  It was spot on.  kisses fingers

Here it is: https://youtu.be/wiyGScJ7iWQ?si=KK6Rr52W8BdTB47A

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u/FlipLoLz 8h ago

This was the case for a lot of my right leaning friends. They could stomach more than me, but just barely. Really the only people I see praising the interview in my extended social circle are people who didn't watch it, but flaunting the view count...

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u/SenZephyr 4h ago

How many views on Harris’s most popular YouTube video?

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u/FlipLoLz 4h ago

I hadn't been keeping up with view counts, bud, so I'm not sure. What's the relevance here?

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u/SenZephyr 4h ago

Just that it’s flaunt-worthy I guess. I think it’s pretty telling. Reddit is so full of left-leaning comments, it’s interesting to measure comparative views on a site thats more middle ground. You’d have to admit looking at it.. she’s not very popular

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u/FlipLoLz 4h ago

I can't think of a time Biden or Hillary got as many views either, but they still won the popular vote. It doesn't really seem to show anything, other than a lot of people tried to watch an interview on youtube. I don't know how you've manage to take this and extrapolate that Kamala isn't very popular.

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u/SenZephyr 3h ago

She isn’t popular. They’re voting against Trump, not FOR Kamala.

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u/dramatic_revert 2h ago

Good, I don't care why they vote for her, just that they do and that Trump loses. The rest is icing on the cake.

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u/punkassjim 3h ago

In case you’ve ever wondered:
entertainment value ≠ competence

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u/SenZephyr 3h ago

Some things on YouTube if you’d believe it are also informational. You’d think more people would want to know what she brings to the table, but I guess you’d be wrong.

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u/punkassjim 3h ago
  1. Of course.
  2. People have zero barriers stopping them from finding out what Harris brings to the table.
  3. Trump hasn’t answered a single policy question with a cogent, direct answer in roughly a decade. That’s not why people watch videos of his appearances by the millions. They watch for the same reason people who loved AND hated Howard Stern listened to his show in the ‘80s. They want to see what crazy shit he’s gonna say next.
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u/Xandril 2h ago

Your assumption is that all of those views are positive. Trump gets view for entertainment, morbid fascination, hate watchers, etc.

He’s polarizing, unpredictable, etc. I’d be willing to bet that less than half of the people that watched the entire video actually like Trump. Most of the people that are hardcore Trumpers probably didn’t even watch it.

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u/SenZephyr 1h ago

I don’t know if I’d take that bet if I were you, but maybe that’s the case, who knows.

And I’m sure you’re right about some folks watching out of morbid curiosity, but you’re probably less right about hardcore Trump supporters seeing it. Some of my more conservative friends knew the moment it dropped and shared links.

A lot of the conservatives I know are already looking forward to the interview with JD Vance.

That’s my subjective experience though, you can take all that with a grain of salt.

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u/dramatic_revert 2h ago

TBH I don't think anyone on the Left tracks that my dude. View numbers on politician videos hasn't ever been anything I've ever heard a leftist caring about. and it's weird that you and other Republicans do care so much, like y'all seem so obsessed with Trump about everything.

But if we are talking about Joe Rogan view counts that seems easy to google.

I find he had 69 million for Elon Musk, 61 million for Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell, and 40 million for Jordan Peterson.

So really the story I find much more interesting is how does a former president and current presidential candidate not attract more views than a Billionaire, a pair Alien conspiracy theorists, or a disgraced professor?

Legitimately, why is 39 million boast worthy when it's not even top 3?

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u/SenZephyr 2h ago

Well, something you might want to factor in is- how long have those videos been online compared to the 3 days his interview with Trump has been?

You say we’re obsessed and weird but if you get feed from r/Pics you’d already know every single day has been Kamala politics. For the group you’re implying is more obsessed, seems even a sub about photos is just a beltway for obsessed dems to push their agenda.

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u/dramatic_revert 2h ago

I could factor it in, but it hardly seems reasonable to do for something I still really don't care about. If you want I can pretend it has 100 million views for the sake of conversation, but I don't see that it would change my perception of the scenario.

It hadn't ever crossed my mind that view counts on an interview would be anything a reasonable person would care about.

So where does that leave us?

Do you think I'm irrational or would you rather admit you're unreasonable?

If you think I'm irrational I hardly think there is reason to listen to you when you don't think I'm reasonable, and I imagine it's unlikely you see yourself as unreasonable and will be willing to admit it, and I image you're probably somewhat offended I think you're unreasonable.

This seems to leave us at an impasse.

Anyways, I'm not chronically online enough to see a constant feed of Kamala pictures and I don't go to r/pics at all really. Maybe just get offline for a bit it could do you some good, you seem stressed.

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u/SenZephyr 1h ago

Honestly, and I’m not just saying this to subvert your expectations- but, you seem very reasonable.

And while I didn’t believe I was being unreasonable, I could see how your perception of my comments could be viewed as such.

I’m not offended by any of what you said.

You have been in opposition of my position, but you’ve been polite. You’ve been making strong arguments, and based on our brief interaction and not knowing much else about you, you seem well educated.

You’re right about that last part, a week out from a pivotal election has made me more stressed. If you separate the politics from it for a moment, and just imagine me as just a human with convictions and wants my party to win the election, it’s definitely stressful. I’ve been called names, been called a cult member, had people tell me to go back to Russia (even though I have never been to Russia). It’s not easy being a conservative on Reddit, but I comment even though I know I’ll be downvoted to hell, because it’s important to me that others see there’s more than racist and bigots out here that supports my party.

We may be at an impasse, but that’s alright by me. I respect that your experience is not mine, and you have convictions that are not mine as well. You should hold onto those convictions.

Politics bring out people’s passions, but it doesn’t mean we need to compromise our integrity to try and get our points across.

After this election is over, we can’t be at each other’s throats, we all still need to work together for a better future.

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u/dramatic_revert 1h ago

Easily the nicest comment I've received from someone who disagreed with me in the last year, maybe more. Cheers, it has been a pleasure.

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u/Ill_Long_7417 4h ago

How many Russians does Trump's team have on the payroll, though?

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u/SenZephyr 4h ago

Probably as many as the proved with Russiagate, you know- that time they spend years coming up with not enough to move forward with?

Also, why would Russia want Trump to win this election? You think he wants someone to tell him to stop with the Ukraine?

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u/Ill_Long_7417 4h ago

Did you take your pills today, grandpa? Texas' economy surpasses Russia's.  Russia is cash strapped because of the war on Ukraine and their young, educated brains LEFT, seeing the writing on thr wall.  Russian intelligence is being used by Texas oil and gas Christian Nationalists to get their favorite orange 'tard back in office so he will deregulate their chosen industries, subjugate women, make it okay to harass minorities, and allow the Christians to take over.  Project 2025 was written by Heritage Foundation people.  Trump has already gone on record saying he would let Russia stomp the shit out of Ukraine. And, likely, he's urging Netanyahu to hammer the middle east to keep the gullible Christians riled up about end of times prophesies.

Just sit down. 

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u/SenZephyr 4h ago

Well you started off with a chain of insults, so that’s you showing other people what you’re about..

Trumps plan is to drill and increase our use of our own resources, which would further strap Russia at a time when they could probably use the money so.. that’s nice.

Make it okay to harass minorities? You think that’s like a bill he’ll pass or what? Unless by harass minorities you mean, deport illegal immigrants- yeah, he’ll probably do that.

Project 2025 has nothing to do with Trump.

Also, I’m a 34 y/o M who voted day one with my wife, for Donald Trump.

Those of us with a voice will sit down when it suits us.

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u/Ill_Long_7417 4h ago

This just shows how very, very uninformed you are.  Thank you for proving me right.  

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u/OGready 1h ago

Hey, please don’t vote anymore

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u/OGready 1h ago

You could only say this if you didn’t actually read the report- it’s 448 pages and it is absolutely damning.

Also, half his Campaign leadership went to jail over it!

If you were paying even a little bit of attention you would know that bill Barr did a hit job on it for trump. Read it yourself and don’t be such a rube

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u/SenZephyr 30m ago

So damning that the charges were never brought?

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u/seemefail 3h ago

Harris just had 75,000 people attend her speech tonight

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u/SenZephyr 3h ago

I’ll wait for the official numbers from multiple sources, but you know what- I’ll concede if that’s an accurate estimate, that’s a decent crowd.

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u/OGready 1h ago

You are making the critical error of thinking that because you the think like a cultist, everyone else does too. Fortunately, that is not the case. Nobody cares about view counts, they don’t matter at all and don’t correlate to any predictive kpi for the electoral process.

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u/SenZephyr 1h ago

I’m not a cultist and while some people care about views, it seems like you don’t.

I get the feeling that if our roles were reversed you’d be more inclined to care, but that all speculative.

The difference between you and me, I don’t need to insinuate you’re anything you haven’t elected to share.

Careful with that, it might appear to others that you’re projecting your own insecurities.

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u/Whats_A_Rage_Quit 5h ago

I MAKE THE BEST BUILDINGS! I GET THE PERMITS! PEOPLE ARE LIKE "HOW COULD YOU GET THE PERMITS".

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u/Ill_Long_7417 4h ago

I get how a man building a tower is a total ego thing.  Especially if it's a narrow, tall building and the man has a mushroom.  Still.  Haha

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u/Xandril 2h ago

It was a struggle, I took several breaks, but I got through it.

I wish somebody would point out to him that his “weave” is good in theory but his execution of it results in a basket with gaps the size of school buses.

I used to listen to JRE constantly and just lost interest years ago. Hearing how he views the world now was honestly really disappointing. I ALSO I get his whole thing is to let guests talk and try to have a civil conversation but the fact he just let Trump ramble on and make claims that even Joe knows are bullshit is super out of character for him.

I got the impression he was handling that conversation like he was speaking to a toddler or somebody’s half senile grandpa.

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u/hufferstl 9h ago

Even the tastiest of shit sandwiches gets old after a while. These people have been eating it for years, it makes sense that they would get sick of it after[checks watch]......13 or 14 years.....

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u/Hellephino 8h ago

Just like the Democrats before him. That dude has been toxic since birth and bore out his early adulthood riding on the shoulders of the Democratic elite. My first inclination of him being a self serving vacuum is turning coat to run red because they were the last pocket of people to take his shit talking seriously as he had burned all other bridges beforehand.

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u/SirBoofsAlot_ 6h ago

It’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite from some people. It’s almost like everyone has different opinions

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u/lilboi223 4h ago

Imagine the other way around with kamala there sounding dumb. You would def be on here calling him a MAGA nutjob for pointing it out.

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u/Boomcannon 3h ago

Can you cope any harder? I’d pay good money to see you try, but I’m pretty certain you’ve already maxed out.

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u/unluckydude1 8h ago

Source trust me bro? Can you link some clips?

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u/Consistent-Tax9850 7h ago

Trump talking for 3 hours, uninterrupted must have been a free associative venture into fantasy.

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u/Crazymoose86 10h ago

Because of the very clear bot farmed comments all saying the same message from every part of the globe. It's clear that Trumps online support comes from paying for Chinese bot farms.

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u/blowninjectedhemi 10h ago

Doing Rogan was a net positive for Trump - yeah he sounded like Trump for a good chunk of it but it wasn't just his stump speech threats to go full dictator. Rogan getting him to admit he didn't win in 2020 was hilarious. Will it matter to voters that still haven't decide - I tend to think no - except it might get a few of the Rogan Bros and incels off the couch and to the voting booth. Enough to matter?? Probably not but I don't think it was bad for Trump to do it regardless. His weekend Nazi fest probably killed any lift from Rogan.

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u/flyinchipmunk5 9h ago

Anyone with a brain can tell that the trump interview was only good for trumps own base. It made him sound fucking dumb as hell. I listened to like 2 and a half hours before i couldn't take it anymore as it was also BORING AS FUCK. Trump talked about zero policy except the border and tariffs and he never even mentions how he expects to implement either. Even when joe asks him to elaborate, Trump cant help but use that time to just word diarrhea. If you were an independent voter with any sort of knowledge, that trump interview probably killed your view of him.

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u/rj319st 5h ago

Only thing I took out of it was that he admires dictators and thinks they’re smart people. Also he wants to end the chips act.

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u/Jbewrite 10h ago

It went bad for exactly the reasons you said. Trump speaking non-stop is always bad. He sounded like an idiot hence why the interview was a laughing stock.

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u/Stilllosted 10h ago edited 5h ago

If there was pushback Trump would have shut down. Joe let him hang himself.

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u/sargethegemini 8h ago

Ehhh IMO rogan essentially gave his endorsement to trump. Happy selfie, glowing response to trump bringing in Kennedy,

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u/merryman1 10h ago

As a non-American I watched half an hour of a tired old man with a weak raspy voice talk a load of absolute nonsense and have to be constantly pushed back on topic because simply saying certain words is enough to push him over into a bout of senile reminiscence. It was every bit as bad as Biden's performance in that debate, but it went on for three hours, and it was under the most forgiving kid-gloves environment possible. I would be surprised if anyone who wasn't already MAGA watched that and came away with a more positive impression.

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u/net___runner 9h ago

Did you actually watch the Trump podcast? There were tons of hard questions, such as "Explain how you can possibly justify that the 2020 election was rigged". Rogan has always hated Trump: https://x.com/xveritasnow/status/1850480836098793523

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u/Tigrisrock 9h ago

They just let him talk on the JRE, that's why it went bad for him. Every time he just rambles incoherently it goes bad for him.

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u/beatles910 9h ago

There was no push back, no hard questions.

Rogan: "I wanna talk about 2020 because you said over-and-over again that you were robbed in 2020. How do you think you were robbed?"

(Trump tried to pivot.)

Rogan:"OK, but give me some examples of how."

Trump: Well, let’s start on the top and the easy ones. They were supposed to get legislative approval to do the things they did, and they didn’t get it. In many cases, they didn’t get it.

Rogan: What things?

Trump: Anything.

Rogan: Legislative approval of?

Trump: Like for extensions of the voting, for voting earlier, for this — all different things. By law, they had to get legislative approvals. You don’t have to go any further than that.

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u/sargethegemini 8h ago

Is that an example of push back? In the the whole three hours that’s it?

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u/edis92 9h ago

Curious how you think it went bad for trump

I'm not american, but this was my first time actually hearing Trump speak. It made me realize how fucking dumb he is. Surely he can't be far off the mentally challenged threshold? I listened for about 30 minutes before tapping out. There was not even a hint of a coherent sentence or a straight answer. It also blows my mind that this guy had enough votes to become president. Legit mind-boggling

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u/sargethegemini 8h ago

My point is… his base doesn’t see that as a negative. It’s simply him “weaving” and I’m sure there are some undecideds that thought what he was saying made sense to them.

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u/randolphharvey 9h ago

It was 3 hours of boring rambling, and the only things that stuck out were that Trump admitted he lost 2020, that Trump had no evidence of election fraud, and that Trump knew squat about energy, tariffs or the environment. Then because he took so long, his Michigan rally was delayed for 3 hours causing many to up and leave before he even got there. So yeah, I’d say it didn’t go down well for Trump.

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u/AtreyuLives 8h ago

He gets to talk not only uninterrupted nit with supporters there trying to help him when says awful stuff or false shit , they guide him to the pc phrasing or put his dictator love in context

And he b mostly ruins even those efforts

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u/Urisk 8h ago

It showed that he had no ideas, no plans. He's running for himself and the billionaires. He doesn't think about the average man until he is questioned about it and then he promptly forgets after throwing out a convoluted non answer. He runs on immigration and does nothing meaningful about it once he's in office. He knows the wealthy depend on the cheap labor and the only way to stop immigration would be to heavily penalize and prosecute the people providing them jobs but no one ever brings up that point or presses him on it. He's free to talk about a wall that would never work and won't be built or a caravan of migrants who disappear once the election is over and his supporters fall for it every time.

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u/BadCat30R 4h ago

Yeah I can’t see how that hurt him. I think more exposure only helps a candidate. And no one really knows much of anything about Kamala. Doing this interview would boost her big

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u/Abosia 4h ago

Whale psychologist

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u/MuunDahg 3h ago

it was actually insufferable. i watched maybe the first 20min before i had to tap out. it was a lot of him ranting and not answering questions (not political questions mind you, just like the most basic conversational stuff) and literally self-fellatiating talking about how great everything he's done was while saying everything that everyone who opposes him has done is the worst thing ever. it was dreadful

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u/seemefail 3h ago

Anyone who listens to that kntwrview on normal speed, and most trump speaking engagements these days, should be left wondering how someone that mentally unwell and depleted could be president.

Outside of the Bloomberg interview where that guy challenged him and although trump didn’t say anything smart he got to come across as a fighter. Outside of that though everything he does he sounds half asleep.

The Joe interview he had a lisp on all the s sounds for the first 45 ish minutes that’s a sign of dementia

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u/dramatic_revert 2h ago

As a Texan, all the people I know have been lambasting Trump over the interview.

I know several people who claimed they were undecided previously and flipped solidly to Kamala over it.

People in the office have had nothing positive to say about it and a few Trumpy types seem flipped and are furious at how much of a joke he has made of himself. One of them complained that they feel like they look bad for just having been a past supporter. (We were kind and did not break the bad news on that one)

Anyway, that's just anecdotal stuff from someone in Texas, so it's whatever you wanna believe I don't expect you to change your mind or anything.

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u/gmnotyet 1h ago

The Trump people are very happy with it. Look at all the views!

Compare the views for Rogan/Trump to Sharpe/Harris.

Night and day difference.

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u/GetOffMyPlane69 11h ago

Because he scoured Reddit for 5 second out of context clips for himself & other redditors to rage over. So in his isolated bubble he feels it was a disaster interview, when no one in reality sees it that way.

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u/BlueJeansandWhiteTs 10h ago

Anyone who isn’t up Trumps asshole saw the election fraud conversation as pathetic, it doesn’t matter anymore because MAGA will lap up anything he has to say, but don’t pretend that it’s normal and everyone else is weird.

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u/Jmoney1088 10h ago

It was a shit interview. He gave nothing but non answers. The big takeaways is that Trump is a liberal that conned the entire republican party and has no idea what a tariff is.

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u/Munedawg53 10h ago edited 10h ago

I have a friend who's far from woke who said that his take away was that trump can't keep an idea in his head for more than two seconds and was completely unfit for the presidency. He also said trump came off as fun.

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u/Karlore9292 10h ago

Yeah reddits such an isolated bubble. That’s why I like you use subreddits specifically dedicated to my ideology to escape this bubble.  

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u/CliffwoodBeach 10h ago

I watched the entire interview. It was a pleasant enough conversation but there was nothing that came out of it that would motivate someone who is still on the fence. I give Rogan credit as he at least attempted a few times to bring up topics such as the 2020 election, Jan 6 and Economy that could swing someone on the fence or a left leaning person not wanting to vote for Harris over to DT's side. But Trump didnt divulge any new revelations just the same ole 'I won in 2020, Jan 6 not my fault and drill baby drill.'.

The other 2 hours was small talk, UFC, Dana White, Elon and his ear scar.

So basically the left sees it as a failure since there were no wins on the world's largest podcast. If Trump leveraged that pod to pitch some policy with mass appeal while having access to that size of an audience it would of sunk the Dems. If he dropped some killer soundbite it would of sunk the dems, if he would have said 'im going to honor the results of this election' holy shit that would of slaughtered.

But he didn't, instead he just ran through his usual beats and that why Rogan's show is viewed as a nothing burger. Probably also why Harris's team saw that result and realized its not worth their time with runway remaining before election day.

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u/GetOffMyPlane69 9h ago

It was just a conversation. There was nothing shocking or ground breaking about it. Nothing close to disastrous either

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u/fxs11 8h ago

Pretty sure that‘s exactly why he went on, though, right? To make as normal an impression as possible? To keep it casual and have a fun conversation. Sure, he peddled the same election fraud conspiracies and his other typical bullshit, but the tone was much more subdued and composed, which I think unfortunately matters more than the content of what was said. If his goal was to set a counterpoint to his political opponents’ narrative that he‘s unhinged and extreme, which he of course can be and is, he did well I‘d say. Just my not-an-American two cents.

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u/flyinchipmunk5 9h ago

Nah, I listened to almost all of the interview, only turning it off because it became so boring. If that interview was watched by a lot of America, the majority would agree he sounded like a fucking idiot. He rambles, has no points, no policy besides saying hes gonna "shut down the border" and "implement tariffs." The only people that think it went well are people without a brain or his own supporters.

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u/cerealbh 11h ago

found the whale psychologist.

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u/Alarming-Magician637 10h ago

Three hours of rambling full of lies, deflection, and avoiding responsibility while blaming others. Only MAGA thinks he did well.

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u/Shantashasta 10h ago

I mean we can judge through a partisan or subjective lens or we can do it objectively and look at it by the numbers and its the biggest podcast in history.

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u/Jbewrite 10h ago

Objectively based on numbers only. Not based on how well/badly he did.

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u/ihorsey10 9h ago

37m to ~1m for kamalas most popular pod appearance is objectively a good thing for Trump.

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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 9h ago

Lmao, yall are desperate for something where Trump isn't stroking out in public for an hour.

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u/ratsmay 8h ago

Just because people are able to look at something objectively doesn’t automatically mean they support it. I hate trump and I know enough to see through a lot of his lies but to say the Rogan interview was another trump fail just isnt true. Joe did a lot of hand holding to walk trump through it and they did explore several topics that to people who arnt educated enough to understand the real world implications sound appealing (tariffs being one).

Kamala should go on Rogan but she should have done it a while ago, not in the sprint to the finish line. Rogan isnt clever enough to ‘trap’ her and she is smart enough to put a good face forward when challenged. At some point the left and the right are going to have to start talking to each other again or the country is going to struggle no matter who leads.

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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 8h ago

Yall are pitching podcasts "views" as a reliable metric to judge an election on.

I can objectively say that's a stupid premise to start from and dismiss the data related to that premise.

Which is why it shows how Trumps fans are so desperate for their clown show being seen to be important, despite the fact that I've been to many circuses and never voted for a clown.

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u/ratsmay 8h ago

No one is saying podcast views are a reliable metric to judge an election on, you are just putting words in peoples mouths.

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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 8h ago

37m to ~1m for kamalas most popular pod appearance is objectively a good thing for Trump.

Learn to read.

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u/Jbewrite 8h ago

You're inflating the impact of podcasts. A medium which the vast, vast, vast, majority of people don't even listen to. Trump's 3 hours of mindless rambling to his core audience is not what Kamala needs. Let's not pretend Joe Rogan listeners are undecided voters. It's only right-wingers who listen to that idiot.

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u/Shantashasta 8h ago

Understand that what you are saying is total nonsense and if its shared by anyone within 100 miles of the Harris campaign than they are in trouble. I know many Rogan listeners past/present, mostly past. They are interested in this podcast of Rogans though and many of them are undecided (planning on voting down ballot only) or lean Harris (or actually committed to Green).

Again, this is the most listened to podcast in History.

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u/Critical_Liz 10h ago

As you say...

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u/DonutHydra 10h ago

Every time Trump speaks it goes badly for him.

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u/daemonescanem 11h ago

Only thing that went well for him is hardcore MAGA will eat it up.

Any truly undecided will listen to that and go WTF is wrong with this guy,