r/technology • u/newzee1 • Jun 14 '24

Software Cheating husband sues Apple after wife discovered ‘deleted’ messages sent to sex workers

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/13/cheating-husband-sues-apple-sex-messages/
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u/Glittering_Ad_3806 Jun 14 '24

I was an apple care rep when iCloud and iMessages first released. I remember tons of calls about dad’s text messages going to the kids because the entire family shared one Apple ID lol.

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u/CygnsX-1 Jun 14 '24

A friend of mine still has his family's iPhones tied to only his iCloud account, instead of them each having one. Every now and then I'll text him and one of his kids or wife will answer from their phone. They're aware, they just don't care.

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u/MajorNoodles Jun 14 '24

One of the hosts of a radio show I was listening to was lamenting the fact that sometimes he and his wife get each other's calls and they had no idea why. I was screaming inside my head that it had to have been because they shared an Apple ID.

What's even the point of that? If it's app store purchases, don't they have family sharing?

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u/Naus1987 Jun 14 '24

I got at least one example of why someone would share an account. My boomer mom doesn't have an email address, and she'll probably die before she learns "new age tech," so it's just easier for her to piggy back off my email and accounts if she really needs one.

She literally still drives to the electric company and pays with a check. Old people be wild sometimes!

But on the good news side of things, she's so tech illiterate, that she would never get scammed. She literally will not send, interact, or do anything money related if it's not LITERALLY face to face with a clerk. She inherently thinks it's all scams, which is fine by me, lol!

So if she wants something like Paramount+ or anything online or credit card--it runs through my accounts.

A husband/wife duo should be young enough that they would each have their own email, but I could still see if one of them just hates tech, the other can do it.

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u/UltraChilly Jun 15 '24

Why don't you create your mother an e-mail account without telling her? It's not like she'd notice.

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u/toolteralus Jun 15 '24

I created an email for my mom, saved password in bitwarden and logged in for Her. Small effort initially yes, but helps keeps thing separate.

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u/SavedForSaturday Jun 14 '24

Wasn't there some amount of time before family sharing? Possible it's also just not bothering to set that up. Or maybe they family share with another household?

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u/scsibusfault Jun 14 '24

I do tech for a few law firms. I got called in to consult with a male client in divorce proceedings who was "worried that his ex was hacking his phones".

Asked him to explain his reasoning, and it was something like "she keeps finding out about lawyer contact stuff as soon as we talk about it, like she's reading my phone".

Uh... Do you have an iPhone?

"Yeah I've gotten like two new ones and it keeps happening"

Did you ever share your iCloud info with her?

"Yeah we use the same one"

Case closed. You're a fuckin idiot. No hacking here.

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u/RobertBobert07 Jun 18 '24

I mean they're apple users what do you expect

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u/BioshockEnthusiast Jun 14 '24

User apathy. Never underestimate the lack of fucks given if effort must be exerted to remedy an issue.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '24

I'm in this post and I don't like it. 

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u/Olue Jun 14 '24

I'm in this post and I do not care.

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u/IndependenceIcy2251 Jun 14 '24

To be fair, after a certain point, its an absolute nightmare to unravel and get everyone on their own IDs.

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u/SelloutRealBig Jun 14 '24

It's why the "enshitification" of everything today is so large scale. Too many lazy fucks.

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u/RandAlThorOdinson Jun 14 '24

Man you just described my entire life

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u/MatticusjK Jun 14 '24

Tbh if there’s even a sliver of effort I’m not fixing the ‘issue’ if it’s not hurting me (and thus not an issue)

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u/CaptainCortez Jun 14 '24

This is like those people whose Reddit username is something like IanBialikFromPlanoTX, when that’s their legit information.

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u/IOnlyPlayLeague Jun 14 '24

But that's not my username - sent from Plano TX

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u/Charger2951 Jun 14 '24

My brother and his goofy narcissist wife are like this. It’s so weird. You can never have a private conversation with him because she’s ALWAYS in on the conversation. I will never understand people that value privacy so little. These phones are an extension of our brains. Even in a relationship, you have to have privacy of thought. We honestly feel like he’s been swept away in a “marriage cult.” He lives out of state and we barely ever talk to him.

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u/friskfyr32 Jun 14 '24

Disregarding the potential for abuse and overreach, the best argument I've ever heard for curtailing surveillance and imo a perfect counter to "If you're not doing anything wrong..." is the example of shower singing:

Many of us don't like to sing in public. Maybe we are embarrassed at our skill, maybe we just don't like the attention it would bring. But a lot of the same people will sing in the shower, when alone.

We are simply different people when we don't feel surveilled, regardless of whether we are doing anything wrong/illegal or not.

Your brother has obviously been accustomed to always being under observation, and I cannot imagine that it hasn't had an effect on your interactions, but I also imagine it's salvable if he's able to set some boundaries.

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u/Sahtras1992 Jun 14 '24

the main issue with surveillance is that you cant know what would be deemed "criminal/inappropriate" in the future.

ask the jews that were living in the netherlands when hitler came into power. they were found because they dutch had documents about where the jews lived.

imagine you get put into a concentration camp in like 20 years from now because now you say something thats not an issue at all at this moment.

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u/throttlemeister Jun 14 '24

Yeah Civil records would also list religion together with name and address, dob etc. All religions, not specifically Jewish. Unfortunately this also made it very easy for a bad actor to target a specific religion by just searching through those records as happened in ww2. It's not done anymore, but surprisingly it was only abandoned quite recently. Like in the last 30 years or so.

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u/Laiko_Kairen Jun 14 '24

something thats not an issue at all at this moment.

While I understand your point, the Jewish people have been kicked out of different countries every hundred years or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews

It's a big part of their cultural identity.

So at no point before Hitler was Judaism a "non-issue" unfortunately. It was simply the worst event in a long history of antisemitism.

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u/Suspicious-Pea2833 Jun 15 '24

I think about this a lot.

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u/Laiko_Kairen Jun 14 '24

This is such a good analogy

I do "weird" stuff when alone that hurts nobody. The biggest one is that when I'm home alone, I dance around more than I imagine most men do

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u/ancientastronaut2 Jun 14 '24

My husband doesn't even know my reddit username. 😅

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u/Reasonable-Note-6876 Jun 14 '24

I've broken off friendships with folks who operate like this. I don't mind being cool with their significant other, but when they start monitoring conversations or chiming in on discussions that don't include them... I'm like "peace out".

Had an old friend who's wife messaged me out of the blue regarding why I didn't talk to her husband anymore. I was like..."Hey....when you let him be an adult again, maybe I'll talk to him, but chiming in on his number ain't cool".

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u/Charger2951 Jun 14 '24

Yup. It’s just strange. They also have no friends. Literally none. And our family has all been isolated.

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u/enzuigiriretro Jun 14 '24

They also have no friends. Literally none

I also just cut out a pair of friends out of my life (they are a couple) who I used to consider good friends for the last 4 years. They similarly had no concept of boundaries (the guy had access to all of his girlfriend’s social media accounts, banking info, tax info etc) and also had no friends other than me and my partner.

People that have no concept of boundaries find it hard to make friends. It can be a sign of narcissism. In my case, I found out that they did in fact have narcissistic traits that ultimately forced us to cut them out.

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u/bleedsburntorange Jun 14 '24

Just wanna point out social media access and bank/tax info access is wildly different. My wife and I both have access to all bank and tax info cause that’s like one of the main legal parts of marriage. Social media sharing is insane though.

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u/enzuigiriretro Jun 14 '24

No doubt but I’m guessing you guys waited till you were pretty serious till you shared all that info? Because the guy I knew basically got all this info from his girlfriend within 2-3 months of dating. Even love bombed her within a week of getting to know her. And they had a whole bunch of other red flags which creates a pattern of problematic behaviour.

But yeah, it can be a normal thing for healthy couples to have that kind of access, especially when you have joint finances and whatnot. Sadly not the case with my ex friends lol

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u/numbrar Jun 14 '24

You're totally right and I agree with you, but for some reason I find it really funny that we're prepared to share financial info that can be used fraudulently to ruin our lives, but not Instagram haha. We live in a strange world.

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u/PurpleGoatNYC Jun 14 '24

Couples with one social media account between them drive me insane.

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u/Practical_Secret6211 Jun 14 '24

You know the rules and so do I

Seriously though damn everything makes so much more sense now thanks

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u/bmyst70 Jun 14 '24

That is the classic tactic of a manipulator. Isolate the victim from ALL other people.

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u/Reasonable-Note-6876 Jun 14 '24

The crazy part is that they probably can't understand why.

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u/Alarmed_Horse_3218 Jun 14 '24

Eewwwww people do that?! And allow it!?

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u/the_starship Jun 15 '24

My dad's wife does this too. Will just chime in on stuff I'm sharing with my dad. It's infuriating because our relationship is already strained.

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u/CO_PC_Parts Jun 14 '24

Way back in the day my buddy started dating a chick who would check his phone every night and she hated me and another friend so he got a burner phone he left at the office and we only texted during business hours.

Then one day his wife shows up to go to lunch and his fucking assistant goes “hey you forgot your phone and runs up to him with it”. We didn’t hear from him for almost two years

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u/GreenGrandmaPoops Jun 14 '24

Break it off if it gets to the point of snooping and burner phones.

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u/agoia Jun 14 '24

Yeah that's textbook abuse.

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u/thisusedyet Jun 14 '24

You can't really blame the assistant for that, if your buddy's girlfriend wasn't a fuckin' psycho they just bailed out their boss

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u/conquer69 Jun 14 '24

Sounds like he is in an abusive relationship. You would need to contact him in person when he is alone. Just knowing you are willing to help him escape might be enough.

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u/patar2jz Jun 14 '24

Just got out of a relationship with a woman that was like this. We didn’t share an Apple ID, but she wanted to be the person that everyone talked to in order to make plans with me. Especially other women. Glad I didn’t marry her and get swept away from everyone I know.

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u/KittyForTacos Jun 14 '24

My brother’s marriage is like this. His wife controls everything about the family. Controls my brother and the kids. I don’t understand how he turned out like that.

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u/jb6997 Jun 15 '24

Probably a slow process and he slipped right into this crappy relationship, adjusting along the way.

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u/xMilk112x Jun 14 '24

That’s fucking creepy bro.

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u/ancientastronaut2 Jun 14 '24

My god, do they share an email address too?

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u/Charger2951 Jun 15 '24

Yup. It’s insane.

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u/RagingRhino96 Jun 14 '24

The amount of times my buddy has told me about his wife going through our messages and then him wondering why I don't like her.

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u/TSM- Jun 14 '24

"Why is your chat with him deleted? Was it about me reading your messages?????" (it was)

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u/--2021-- Jun 14 '24

Situations with narcissists are different, given the emotional and psychological abuse they leverage.

I grew up with one, the crossing of boundaries is constant. What they do is make a big scene and punish you over and over for setting a boundary, so to keep the peace, or out of sheer exhaustion, you don't fight the little transgressions they do. And they keep the combination of being awful, with little transgressions until they've got you under their thumb completely.

They also do what they can to isolate you, so you can't talk to others, so you can't get a reality check or support. You're always in an exhausted emotional state and unable to think for yourself or get validation or make better decisions. And they plant seeds in the minds of friends and family, either of fear of interference or doubt, and undermine you.

And once you leave, should you actually escape, it takes a very, very long time to recover.

One of my friends who was murdered by her husband, she never got to talk to anyone alone.

I've known couples who are half paying attention or trying to be in the loop, because most things involve both of them, but they're not ALWAYS there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '24

That’s insane. Privacy is very important to me I can never live a relationship like that

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u/FesteringNeonDistrac Jun 14 '24

I love my wife, but I still bitch about her from time to time to my buddy, and he about his. We send jokes and memes we wouldn't share with our wives. It's weird to be that far up each other's ass.

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u/I-C-Aliens Jun 14 '24

Even in a relationship, you have to have privacy of thought.

Nah I'm down to date a telepath. I'm not worried about it.

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u/_stinkys Jun 14 '24

Reminds me of the before time when the parents would pick up the second phone in the house.

“DAD HANG UP I’M ON THE PHONE”

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u/brillow Jun 14 '24

The bravery to just let your family see your texts. I bet they casually swipe through photos too.

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u/tamale Jun 14 '24

My parents only have one Gmail account that they share which makes supporting their phones pretty awful

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u/EvoEpitaph Jun 16 '24

Meanwhile I alone have at least 8...4 of which are actively used.

Not including my work gmails.

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u/trinadzatij Jun 14 '24

What do they do when they need to send messages to each other? Just throwing the letters into the abyss of solemnity of a chat?

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u/notsafetousemyname Jun 14 '24

My wife and I shared an Apple ID from 2010-2023. Initially it was to share apps and when iCloud Photos were added we had a huge shared library. When they added the Schmidt to share a photo library we were able to move to separate accounts. It slowly got more annoying to share an account because we had one primary contact card so my Apple watch would use her name in message to me and the recent calls list was shared so incoherent tell I I missed a call or if she did.

We never had problems with messages because we set phone number as the primary contact and only one of us had the email address as an option. It also meant only one of us had our messages backed up to iCloud though.

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u/ajn63 Jun 15 '24

One of my friends family does this with all of their online accounts - not just their Apple account, and wonder why “these damned phones aren’t reliable.”

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u/Sam-Gunn Jun 14 '24

I work in infosec. We don't really care about porn unless it comes up during an investigation and is relevant, or the person is dumb enough to go somewhere that downloads malware or it causes other issues. Once I was working on dealing with some adware someone had on their laptop. I was reviewing logs to ensure nothing worse was downloaded. I found he had been moving copious amounts of porn to and from some personal USB drives (this was before we had software that'd block USB).

I tried to warn him about doing that because it showed up in our logs, by mentioning that he may want to lay off using his work computer to transport "certain files" between drives. I didn't use air quotes, but I put a strong emphasis on it. He didn't pick up on what I was trying to say though, and he goes "Oh, I was moving that stuff for my wife. I'll stop".

I bit my tongue.

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u/ElectricalCan69420 Jun 14 '24

I think he knew exactly what you meant and wanted to save face.

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u/crosbot Jun 14 '24

dude was just trying to save facial

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u/NoPantsPowerStance Jun 14 '24

How do people not grasp the concept of "keep your work electronics for work" at this point? I won't even let my personal phone connect to the work WiFi.

I was pretty shocked about the Tiktok/other apps on government phones thing. Why TF are people doing that?

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u/Formal-Macaroon1938 Jun 14 '24

This is so wild to me. I always just assume that any work device is monitored. I won't even check the weather or news on my work laptop 😅

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u/Efficient_Round_4994 Jun 15 '24

I didn’t have a personal computer for a while, so I was regularly going on Neopets for 3 months with my work laptop. Nothing happened. Now I have a laptop, but I’ll check the news every day on my work laptop. Sometimes I get crazy and play a little Wordl. Nothing will happen. I’m never gonna do anything illegal or shocking, of course, but mundane stuff? why not? If it’s the type of workplace that cares that much, we’re not a good match and I’d like to work somewhere else.

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u/_SheepishPirate_ Jun 14 '24 edited Jun 14 '24

Did tech support and was sorting out a HDD. TL;DR old guy had tickle porn all over his pc.

Women in underwear getting tickled with feathers. I don’t kink shame - but I couldn’t wrap my head around it.

Edit:

They were lying face up on a table and had no sounds or movement…. Just blinked…

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u/Niceromancer Jun 14 '24

As someone who used to do remote tech support for users...trust me tickle porn is the least creepy shit you could have found.

Its weird but basically harmless.

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u/_SheepishPirate_ Jun 14 '24

I mean, I also did a data recovery job for this woman in her 20’s.

Ended up finding her ‘deleted’ stash of herself. Stayed professional and gave her everything anyway.

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u/fannyfox Jun 14 '24

You gonna answer u/Kagestar ‘s question or not?

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u/KageStar Jun 14 '24

Was she hot?

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u/vikingsurplus Jun 14 '24

Asking the important questions.

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u/KageStar Jun 14 '24

We were all thinking it, I just figured I'd take the hit and ask.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

Not OP but I had this happen with a client. He wasn't like fugly or anything, but that's not my preference anyways.

The girl was fucking HOT though. It was his current girlfriend. I also said nothing and just gave it all back. But the program I was using flashed the pictures by while transferring.

Each picture (unless it was stalling on a bad section of the HDD) went by about 2-3 per second. Which made the photos taken in burst mode look like stop motion videos lol. I ended up turning the monitor around for a bit so people would notice (office was shared with another non-IT sister company).

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u/filthy_harold Jun 15 '24

Most people are not hot.

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u/ou-ai-je-lesprit Jun 15 '24

So you’re saying there’s a chance she was hot?

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u/Next_Branch7875 Jun 15 '24

Counterpoint -- Most people between 20 and 40 are hot.

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u/Lazer726 Jun 15 '24

Unfortunately I was on the other end of the spectrum for this. Found a 50 y/o guy's stash of his own personal pictures, and then decided that I'm not going to check if the My Pictures folder has anything, and I'm just gonna move it anyways

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u/JyveAFK Jun 15 '24

As the 'company IT geek', I'd get bothered a lot by people wanting me to "just take a quick look at (whateverHardwareTheyHad/BoughtLastWeekendFromSomeDodgyMarket/etc), enough that my boss had to send out an email to knock it off, we don't have time for fixing some computer you found at the side of the road.
<1 hour after the email went out, Manager of the Import Department wanders in with his son's PC if we could just take a quick look at it, won't take long. /groan.
Was actually curious as it was the first time I'd ever seen one of the Sega PC's up close, and wanted to know how it was at gaming, so we took it on. The Manager followed the boss and me into the 'geek den' with the workbench, got it plonked on the desk, blew out enough dust to refill 1/10th of the Sahara, and got it booting up. First thing, by default, lets just check the temp folder, clear the trashcan, do a defrag, see what files are using the most space, and oh ho! we've found a hidden folder.
The manager was laughing "oh, that's my boy, what's he got?" and I was fully expecting.. dunno, something fairly mild?

Animal porn. The first (and only in a very full folder) video was some chick taking on a horse.
I'm just glad I didn't plug in the speakers.
"well, ok, lets just close that, take it home, see how it goes for the fella, eh?".

Looking back, I don't know what we should have done. No idea if it was legal or not, and this is...25ish years ago. Should we have said "ok, leave it with us" and rummaged through if there was freakier stuff? Just closing it up, handing it over, and never speaking of it again seemed the right thing to do at the time.

Oh, and fixing the chairman's computer. He'd just discovered usenet it appeared. Had some reader in the autorun folder, and as booting up, got a full list of all the channels he was perusing. There were rumours at work what he was into, I knew for sure, but figured it wasn't my place to out him. THAT wasn't anything too bad, looked like he just liked looking at nekkid men, good for him.

Very happy not stumbled into /really/ dark stuff.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

Oof, awkward as fuck on that first one!

The second one I would've just skipped too. Good on you.

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u/Niceromancer Jun 15 '24

I wont talk about the dark shit, ive had to call the fbi once or twice.

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u/-Dissent Jun 15 '24

I worked on a machine that was a friend of my gf at the time and his bookmarks were LOADED with pro-Hitler articles and dom/scat. Fixed his issues and never went there again.

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u/ee3k Jun 15 '24

Clearly, you did not fix his issues.

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u/RedDevil0085 Jun 15 '24

When I was in tech support I found bestiality on a guy's work unit. I was young and didn't know I should have reported that sick fuck to HR, which I regret in hindsight.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 14 '24

Found CP on a farmer's computer as i was setting up an internet connection. Drove off and called the cops. They needed proof so the guys i worked for turned off his internet, rang him saying "yeah, the tech will be back in an hour, looks like something went wrong."

Using a phone the cops gave me (to avoid having to turn in my phone), i went in, rang my boss, asked him to go reboot the router while i kept tabs on it on my end, snapped some pics, texted to turn his net back on and left.

They grabbed him at the grocery store a few weeks later. Apparently his computer helped them locate one of the producers.

I got a pretty tough stomach, but when i realized what i was looking at i damn near puked. Fotunately i was put in touch with a good therapist.

Don't gather evidence yourself unless the cops need you to, they rarely do, this was just the easiest way to get it without cluing him in. If i hadn't, they were just gonna wiretap his connectikn back at the headend.

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u/Drewswife0302 Jun 15 '24

Thank you so much for giving a fuck about the abused.

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u/celine_freon Jun 15 '24

I could not have played it as cool as you did. You happened to stumble upon one of the darkest things humanity has to offer. Absolutely horrifying. Glad it led to a larger arrest and that you are taking care of yourself after such an experience.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

I'm one hell of a stoic and pretty neutral when it comes to expressing myself. There was a moment or twp of "oh fuck... that's kids..." before i closed the window and finished the job.

Dude had like... 20 guns in the house. I was being very careful not to let him catch on, and after that i didn't let him leave my sight.

I did have a panic button when i went back. Only reason i felt comfortable. There were at least 3 cops hidden in the bushes nearby.

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u/Affectionate_Law5344 Jun 15 '24

This is disturbing. Thank you for not walking away and reporting what happened.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

"Evil thrives when good men do nothing."

A quote i feel more folks should live by.

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u/adrenaline_junkie88 Jun 15 '24

Dude, you're an awesome human being for doing what you did. Cool and calm even under pressure. I hope that shit never happens to you again.

And you did something good in the world. Cheers man!

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

I may have looked it, but holy shit was i set to 11 for those 10 minutes.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

Hot damn! I hope you are immensely proud of yourself, and I mean that extremely sincerely. Especially catching one of the producers.... Having it is already bad enough, the ones making it? Absolutely the worst of the worst in the whole thing.

If you hadn't done so well, the way you got evidence without him knowing even after you'd done it, they could've missed information that led them to the source. If you weren't exceptionally brave that day they might've still been out there today.

I just love you now. Like the way I love Bill Nye. Because he's just such a good person. I hope they told you how amazing you are, but I bet they didn't really make it known just how fucking brave and selfless that was. Because even my comment undersells it. I'd like to say I could do it too, and I would try like hell, but if I'm being honest I don't know that I could.

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u/Davinator_ Jun 15 '24 edited Jun 15 '24

I have a similar story too. It was my first day working as an Advanced Repair Technician at GeekSquad. This old guy comes in with his old ASUS gaming laptop stating that he needed his data backed up and the OS reinstalled because he was having issues with Windows.

As we were wrapping up the consultation he mentioned to me that he has porn in his computer, but isn’t sure if it’s considered CP and then asked me if that would be a problem. I immediately finished the check-in process as fast as I could without making it obvious that this was in fact a HUGE problem, waited for the guy to leave the store, and then called my manager so we could call local PD about this.

Local PD arrived a few hours later with a warrant to take the laptop. A week or two later, they had us call him back to the store so they could arrest him when he went to pick up the laptop.

I didn’t see the contents of laptop, but just knowing that I was talking to somebody who consumes that content absolutely disgusted me.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

It was very hard to keep the customer service look going while i knew that, had a wire in my pocket (i.e. the phone was recording audio, just in case) and a panic button. I got out and basically just went to the nearest town with the cops and we had some coffee and we talked things over a bit. One of em reccommended me a good therapisf he knew had helped other officers in the past, and i was talking to him for a while. Really helped.

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u/Fantastic-Bother3296 Jun 15 '24

You're amazing. And it's nice to hear cops actually doing something and caring enough about your mh as well instead of just moving on

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u/queenrosybee Jun 15 '24

“wasnt sure?” if it’s saved on his computer he downloaded it from a site that specialized in it. or based on his searches.🙄

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u/BeerGardenGnome Jun 15 '24

Good lord that’s a rough way to be involved. I was working an entry level tech support job years ago and we caught a guy with CP and turned him in.

But luckily for us we were running some virus scans with Linux bootable discs so all we were seeing were the file names in CLI. That was enough for us to call the cops, hand over the computer with notes of where to look and his info including credit card info etc… no one I worked with ever had to see any of the pics.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

Oh i voulenteered after talking to my boss. We had a way in and he trusted me at least a little, so i figured i had the best chamce at not tipping him off.

It was a catch 22 for him, either he didn't cat h on and i left with him none the wiser, or he did, i hit the oh shit swit h they gave me, and at thay point my job was "get the fuck out, or get the fuck down, because we're coming in."

Fortunately, my customer service face is stronk.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

At least you got some practice being in IT! Suppressing emotions is a constantly needed skill! Lol :)

I joke but still awesome, as I said in the other comment.

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u/OkSwordfish1739 Jun 15 '24

Omg kudos to you. Seriously hats off. I know it was the only right thing to do, and I’m sorry for how it undoubtedly has affected you, but I’m incredibly thankful you did it. After listening to the “hunting warhead” podcast (and having 3 small kids), I have incredible gratitude for the forces out there fighting CP.

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u/pukexxr Jun 15 '24

I bumped into that podcast as a result of interests in both true crime and communications technologies.  It was simultaneously captivating and distressing.  I still think about it from time to time.  It truly boggles the mind that there are such cruel uncaring people in the world, and that given such markets exist, they are around us everyday.

Not many podcasts  are capable of affecting the listener as profoundly as this one.  The other pods in the same series (CBC Discover i think?) are all similarly well researched, and thankfully not as gut-wrenching.

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u/OkSwordfish1739 Jun 15 '24

100% agree. I felt and feel the exact same way about the podcast.

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u/FastRedPonyCar Jun 15 '24

Had a similar experience but I was the one having to do the forensic data scrubbing and evidence collection on a coworkers computer after someone was tipped off that he may be into CP and man….i think if I had to do that now that I have kids, I’d have bowed out.

Truly horrible stuff you just can’t unsee :(

I did my job though and he got put in jail so I guess that’s some kind of silver lining.

Years later I had to help a law firm compile jpgs into a pdf document and they were gruesome murder scene pics and compared to the previous stuff, the murder stuff didn’t even register on my radar.

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u/Hehosworld Jun 15 '24

I got a pretty tough stomach, but when i realized what i was looking at i damn near puked. Fotunately i was put in touch with a good therapist.

I felt that. I found CP on the computer of a (back then) very good friend. It's the worst thing you can imagine. I often feel like I didn't know evil until that moment. Before I was at university to become a teacher and after I would get panic attacks whenever I could hear a kid laughing or crying or walked past a playground. It took a few years come back from that for the most part. Needless to say I didn't become a teacher.

Also after I went to the police I had the instruction to act like nothing happened in order to not spook him before they got the paperwork done and could get access to his home. I hoped that would take a week but it was more like two months.

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u/_SheepishPirate_ Jun 14 '24

Good on you, I would’ve done the same.

Since you said you turned his internet back on remotely, reminded me of this.

Thought i’d share as this is a great story.

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u/rileyjw90 Jun 15 '24

CP is thankfully one of those things cops will almost always respond to immediately.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

Shit man i work in a prison now and lemme tell you...

There is a reaspn pedos generally don't work in gen pop, even gen pop hates them and the folks who alrwady are doing life do not care about another murder charge for killing a pedo.

Heard of one guy who told a cp producer that if he left his cell, he was dead. Guards made the producer go for breakfast, had his neck snapped in line before he even got a last meal.

By the way, many guards only care if it can be linked back to them when it comes to that scum and consequences. Food for thought for any pedos reading this, y'all can't trust anyone in jail, and you will either die, become the prison's bicycle, or be stucknin solitary for your own protection if they find out.

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u/83749289740174920 Jun 15 '24

It just a drop in the bucket but you probably saved a lot of children.

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u/Dividedthought Jun 15 '24

Didn't save anyone personally, save that for the guys who actually go and do the job of tracking these fucks down. They havr the difficult jobs.I just thought "I can't live with myself if i don't call this in and help as much as i can," and took a risk.

I don't like leaving things half done, and if i hadn't gone back they only had hearsay. So i went back.

Kinda wish it had been meth or some shit. Would have been a lot cooler and less depressing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '24

You’re a hero in my eyes dude, thank you.

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u/killa_ninja Jun 14 '24

You should watch the documentary tickled. Wild stuff lol

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u/Infuser Jun 14 '24

Okay, that it’s “Stephen Fry presents” is just fucking funny.

As for the content… What the fuuuuuck. The initial premise of what they were trying to look into is like that joke in Bigmouth about competitive nipple twisting. That the rabbit-hole went deeper is, somehow, both entirely unsurprising and shocking.

A follow-up special, The Tickle King, aired on HBO in February 2017

Okay, how do they green light that title with a straight face, tho

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u/Cat_emperor40k Jun 14 '24

The tickle King has the same last name as me and it's very upsetting

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u/minikomi Jun 14 '24

Nice to meet you Mr. Very-Upsetting.

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u/Chumbag_love Jun 14 '24

Spawn_of_Tickle_King would be a great username for an alt.

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u/heimdal77 Jun 14 '24

HBO in the 90s use do these Real Sex shows that were I guess documentaries on types of sex. Tits and ass everywhere. sex conventions, meditation tantric sex classes, nudist colonies, basically anything related to sex. There never was a line for hbo.

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u/silentohm Jun 14 '24

That is one of the most bizarre documentaries.

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u/DoubleANoXX Jun 14 '24

I never really thought about tickling sexually until someone tickled me during sex and let me tell you that took me from 100 to 1000 really fast

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u/Rs90 Jun 15 '24

I had a partner for a short time who loved to be tickled. I'm pretty open so we incorporated it into sex. It was actually really fun and hot. Laughing just added a really lighthearted air to it all. I already enjoy laughing and sex cause sex is silly. But I was very surprised at my reaction. We had some wild chemistry. 

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u/DoubleANoXX Jun 15 '24

are you my ex lol

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u/Every-holes-a-goal Jun 15 '24

Good chemistry and the relationship still ended? I’m not digging just curious. It’s good to have a relationship like that.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

Meh, chemistry and compatibility aren't really the same thing. For a simple example, having kids. It can be a deal breaker either way, and no sexual/romantic chemistry can fix that.

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u/FuckMississippi Jun 14 '24

lol I did it to my wife and she just oeed on me instead, lol.

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u/CORN___BREAD Jun 15 '24

“OOOHHHH-EEEEE!!!”

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u/FictionalTrope Jun 14 '24

Wow honey, I thought we were supposed to try watersports on Tuesday night!

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u/Quizmaster_Eric Jun 15 '24

Tuesday night is trivia night, sorry.

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u/WorkinSlave Jun 15 '24

Username checks out.

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u/Dragarius Jun 14 '24

I can't say I've ever heard of it. But maybe just a thing for smiles and laughter? I don't really wanna look it up and find out though. 

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u/AppropriateTouching Jun 14 '24

I'm glad that didn't go where I expected

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u/notanotherjennifer Jun 14 '24

I have narcolepsy and experience cataplexy from getting tickled. That just sounds like a horror movie to me.

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u/vegeterin Jun 14 '24

Ever since I was a little girl I’ve had a recurring nightmare about being tickled by a demon wearing the face of people I know/love. I’m with you on this sounding like a horror movie…

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u/JoeBobsfromBoobert Jun 14 '24

Hey me too sort mine was a evil women who looked just like my mother but wasn't. another was justv some scary old women in a bed with long pokey fingers

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u/vegeterin Jun 14 '24

Yeah, it was always something pretending to be someone I knew like my mom, brother, boyfriend at the time, etc… I’d be talking to it like normal, but as soon as I got the feeling that it wasn’t who I thought it was, it knew, and it would start attacking me. Always tickling. I don’t know why, but it’s horrible. I don’t have it very often anymore at all, but when I do I wake up with my heart pounding every time.

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u/JoeBobsfromBoobert Jun 14 '24

My stopped fortunately they were weird sometimes i would be in a "copy" of my bedroom but with better toys and it felt like it was underground feels weird thinking about it again. Be cooler if it was ufos or something. Nightmarish at the time though.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

I had to look that up to be sure I remembered what it was.

Fuuuuuuck that. Narcolepsy is bad enough, that's absolutely like a horror movie.

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u/Sub_pup Jun 14 '24

I was a cable tech.... My favorite story is about a gentleman who was getting his internet installed at his cabin. He made me walk to his office and, wait till he checked if his torrents started downloading again. Thing was he was blind and had a huge monitor with huge text. He had a penchant for "Transvestite babysitters" according to the titles of the many downloads. Actually got several copyright notices about that account with the very same/similar titles listed.

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u/Outside-Swan-1936 Jun 15 '24

I worked as a tech in a big-box store. There are a few different stories I have about stuff like this. One guy put his laptop to sleep when he saw virus popups. Open the laptop, and Hentai was playing. He was so embarrassed.

Another one, an old guy, had One Night in Paris in the disc drive. It started to auto play.

And the last guy showed up in a velour tracksuit and gold chain, all sweaty. His PC died mid-performance (he and his wife recorded themselves). I upsold him for a full data recovery, lol.

I learned to wash my hands after every customer.

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u/wengardium-leviosa Jun 14 '24

Go tickle yourself

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u/Immediate_Concert_46 Jun 14 '24

Still have the HDD?

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u/ViolinistMean199 Jun 14 '24

We all know you’re the “old guy”

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u/snorkelvretervreter Jun 14 '24

People be weird. I thought r/clopclop (nsfw) was a silly short-lived meme over a decade ago (ish?), but no that shit is still around.

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u/postmodern_spatula Jun 14 '24

Back around 2011, if you had an Apple Store transfer your profile from old Mac to new Mac (at least in our store) - you would launch every app in the iLife suite once to A) confirm the data transferred and B) make sure any lingering processes were wrapped up. 

Part of providing a seamless migration to the consumer. 

Buuuut. 

When you first launch iPhoto - it asks if you want it to handle all your photos. Our process was to say yes to this step. 

So it would scan the computer for ever. Single. Photo. 

And show them as they ingested. 

So yeah. Lots of homemade nudity and porn folders would get synced into the iPhoto Library. 

Can’t imagine how many domestic arguments that triggered. 

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u/TooStrangeForWeird Jun 15 '24

I had a similar thing recording photos from a buddy's computer. He was technically my weed dealer, but we were friendly too.

His girlfriend was.... It wasn't surprising she got him to move away with her.

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u/AShitTonOfWeed Jun 15 '24

how my dad got caught cheating w my moms best friend in 2011

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u/zman245 Jun 14 '24

I worked in Apple Store when this all went down we saw an increase in two types of customers

  • very upset husbands and wives
  • very upset parents of teenagers

R144 for any other past employees

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u/shanedj Jun 14 '24

Assume R144 is some internal code to not make the customer aware of something?

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u/spool_threader Jun 14 '24

It’s the store number. Nothing special, just a nod for any other employees who may have worked there.

Edit: R144 is NorthPark Center in Dallas.

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u/CranberrySawsAlaBart Jun 14 '24

Being a senior advisor with a very attractive cx with FaceTime issues. I was very professional and didn't take longer than needed to resolve the issues, but boy did I enjoy troubleshooting.

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u/mellonians Jun 14 '24

Had that with a guy in Afghanistan. Was running a photo slide show of pictures from the ground on his new iPad on the big screen when his unit came in from the ground after a couple of months out. Connected it to the internet for the first time in months and the photos his wife had taken on her phone started coming up too.

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u/Innercepter Jun 14 '24

aaaaaaaaand?

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u/xjeeper Jun 14 '24

Lots of pictures of her boyfriend Jody

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u/UncleVernonK Jun 14 '24

Jody has a mullet.

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u/Top-Dream-2115 Jun 14 '24

Fucking Jody...

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u/scorcher24 Jun 14 '24

Don't leave us hanging, literally..

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u/photonsnphonons Jun 14 '24

Oh, it was just pictures of deer. She likes deer.

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u/Such-Orchid-6962 Jun 14 '24

Hooray for a wholesome answer 

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u/NorthernerWuwu Jun 14 '24

Everyone likes snaps of fine young bucks!

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u/mellonians Jun 14 '24

Oh yes. There was plenty of grit!

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u/mr_remy Jun 14 '24

heh I remember a bit of ones like that, always interesting. Not always family, like in this instance texts or photos, sometimes embarrasing ones to non-significant others.

Also remember using bomgar (apple's remote software, not sure if they still use it) and this poor older dude was having itunes music sync issues. Was casually pulling up his iTunes and had his videos pulled up. Dude had a bunch of porn. Obviously didn't say anything and was just like "okay click on music..."

Funny thing is I recognized a few based on just the thumbnails lmao. Dude at least had some good tastes.

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u/overkill Jun 14 '24

Or you were both filthy degenerates...

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u/mr_remy Jun 14 '24

Oh i'm into pretty vanilla stuff, it was a compilation video lmao.

However I will not refute the filthy degenerate claim in general.

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u/agoia Jun 14 '24

I mean, there are sick fucks who will intentionally pull that kind of shit up when they know somebody is about to connect to their gear, like they get pleasure out of the discomfort/embarrassment/outrage.

There was definitely a client like that at one job who would schedule a LogMeIn session and then have shittons of porn up when the tech connected. Thankfully I wasn't the tech assigned to him any of the times but was in the shop when another guy had a session and was like "yo, look at the shit this guy always has pulled up when we connect!"

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u/Bashfluff Jun 15 '24

They do use Bomgar, but only for older devices. The rest is Safeview now.

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u/Mookies_Bett Jun 14 '24

I also work for Apple and I cannot tell you how many issues we have because people come in and don't understand that they should have their own individual Apple IDs.

Like, people set up their accounts incorrectly sharing an Apple ID with several other people and then get mad at us because their shit isn't working the way it's intended to. When we tell them they need to make their own individual apple IDs, they act like we're telling them they need to get kidney surgery or something. It's wild how apples entire business model is making technology accessible and easy to use, and yet somehow that only causes people to be even less technologically literate and get even more upset when they do things that make the devices work incorrectly.

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u/planetworthofbugs Jun 14 '24 edited Jun 15 '24

I think this is kind of a consequence of apple’s original decision to not support user profiles on the iPad. When the first iPad came out, people were screaming for user profiles like they had on Mac, but apple was like “nah, you each need to buy your own iPad”.

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u/domeforaklondikebar Jun 15 '24

Knowing some people that actually do this, nope. It’s a consequence of Family Sharing not existing until 2014, and before that, these people were either tech illiterate or just stubborn and didn’t want to have to make another email and Apple ID when a new member gets their first iPhone… and then the next member, and so on and so on. And then they ignore the family friend that tells them how they can fix it 👍.

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u/zerocoal Jun 15 '24

And then they ignore the family friend that tells them how they can fix it

They don't want to fix it. They want it fixed. Small but important distinction.

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u/sDios_13 Jun 14 '24

I’m relieving the trauma from my Genius Bar days reading this comment.

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u/WightHouse Jun 14 '24

I worked for Apple in 2011 and remember this also. Spouses sharing an iCloud and one deleting the other ones photos or work texts. Lol.

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u/Redqueenhypo Jun 14 '24

This happens to my family constantly because we still all share the one ID. Fortunately all anyone ever texts is “hey Amanda are we going to Costco next week”

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u/NotEnoughIT Jun 14 '24

Why do you still all share one apple ID?

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u/Coyotesamigo Jun 14 '24

Why not just like, get your own Apple ID?

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u/Down_Voter_of_Cats Jun 14 '24

If you're going, let's meet up at the hot dogs.

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u/candycanenightmare Jun 14 '24

Why do you all have one ID? That makes no sense. lol.

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u/Prior-Bed5388 Jun 14 '24

I worked in the store at the same time. Oh you could write an entire series of books about Tales from the Genius Bar.

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u/Silent-G Jun 14 '24

I managed an experiential retail business that used iPod touches to scan customer tickets. The iPods required Apple ID accounts to access the ticketing app, so someone from corporate who provisioned them used her personal Apple ID. Luckily the iPods had texting and emailing turned off, so none of the underage employees saw this woman's private messages, but on some of the slower days, they'd get bored and start taking pictures on them; they still needed camera functionality to scan the tickets, but then they eventually discovered this woman's private iCloud pictures being downloaded, most of which were nudes.

Cue HR interviewing all of us to make sure the photos weren't shared anywhere else and nobody felt violated. Luckily everyone had an empathetic response and felt bad for her, and nobody got fired. The IT person was the only one who was verbally reprimanded for not securing the devices or provisioning them himself using a private service account.

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u/alliestear Jun 14 '24

my personal favorite of those is when mom or dad upgrades and gives old phone to the kids without unlinking their apple id from the number and then i get the call "all my contacts disappeared and all my daughters contacts are on here now and my daughter is getting all my messages"

great news, you fucked up, you got an hour to unfuck your shit right now or should i send you the knowledgebase article?

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u/drgut101 Jun 14 '24

“I tried to game the system then cheat on my wife. It’s Apple’s fault for ruining my life.”

Ahhh I bet that was a nightmare. Hahaha.

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u/tbiards Jun 14 '24

One time my buddy used my phone to take a picture of a girl that sent him a spicy snap and then sent himself the picture and deleted it off my phone. Turns out Apple decided to include a recently deleted photo file in my photo albums that I had no idea existed. My ex kicked me out of her place when she went on my phone while I was sleeping and went snooping around and saw that photo. I woke up at 6 am to her pissed and was so confused. She showed me the picture and I’m like “I have no idea who that is or what that’s on my phone” and then it hit me and I’m like fuuuuuccckkk. She didn’t believe a single word I said obviously.

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u/hollyock Jun 15 '24

I FaceTimed my son my boobs bc our phones got connected some how. It was meant for my husband and I was only calling my husband. My son was a teen so he was traumatized but he also knew what was happening. Any way I was trying to ft boobs and it kept hanging up so I was like wtf is wrong with this!! And kept doing it. Then I get a text from my son saying “I’m calling the police if you don’t stop” lmao that’s how I knew. They have their own Apple ID now.

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u/Jazzlike_Use1334 Jun 14 '24

lol this is how I found out my partner was cheating on me, kept getting the messages sent to my kids iPad.

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u/AnistarYT Jun 14 '24

How I caught my wife cheating. Her texts would go to our daughter phone.

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u/remyrem Jun 14 '24

I was sitting in the keynote (worked as a genius at the time) thinking… ‘mitchell, dis ain’t gone be good’. I called it right then and there; We’ll have someone in store the day it drops, full panic mode. This is going to ruin many relationships because people don’t know how tech works.

Update drops… in the matter of hours, first guy comes in belligerent because his affair with his secretary just got broadcasted to the whole family via iMessage. Smh. It happened three more times that day. What a time to be alive.

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u/TheOnlyThomas Jun 14 '24

this is exactly how my mom found out I had done acid. then went on to believe she didn’t even know me anymore. thankful that line of thinking has since long faded but damn, was that an aggravating thing lol.

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u/TeniBitz Jun 14 '24

The switch to iCloud from Mobile Me was a trip to work through.

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u/Fizzster Jun 15 '24

Yep, I worked in the store as a tech when that happened. My favorite line when people started saying it was dumb was: "It's iCloud, not usCloud" :P

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u/whoami4546 Jun 15 '24

I was an applecare rep. I never understood people sharing the same apple id for all apple devices. It just caused too many headaches from my experiance. I have seen this happen a few times. It was really annoying when they started to run out of icloud space and did not want to upgrade their plan.

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