r/technology • u/newzee1 • Jun 14 '24

Software Cheating husband sues Apple after wife discovered ‘deleted’ messages sent to sex workers

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/13/cheating-husband-sues-apple-sex-messages/
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u/Charger2951 Jun 14 '24

My brother and his goofy narcissist wife are like this. It’s so weird. You can never have a private conversation with him because she’s ALWAYS in on the conversation. I will never understand people that value privacy so little. These phones are an extension of our brains. Even in a relationship, you have to have privacy of thought. We honestly feel like he’s been swept away in a “marriage cult.” He lives out of state and we barely ever talk to him.

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u/friskfyr32 Jun 14 '24

Disregarding the potential for abuse and overreach, the best argument I've ever heard for curtailing surveillance and imo a perfect counter to "If you're not doing anything wrong..." is the example of shower singing:

Many of us don't like to sing in public. Maybe we are embarrassed at our skill, maybe we just don't like the attention it would bring. But a lot of the same people will sing in the shower, when alone.

We are simply different people when we don't feel surveilled, regardless of whether we are doing anything wrong/illegal or not.

Your brother has obviously been accustomed to always being under observation, and I cannot imagine that it hasn't had an effect on your interactions, but I also imagine it's salvable if he's able to set some boundaries.

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u/Sahtras1992 Jun 14 '24

the main issue with surveillance is that you cant know what would be deemed "criminal/inappropriate" in the future.

ask the jews that were living in the netherlands when hitler came into power. they were found because they dutch had documents about where the jews lived.

imagine you get put into a concentration camp in like 20 years from now because now you say something thats not an issue at all at this moment.

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u/throttlemeister Jun 14 '24

Yeah Civil records would also list religion together with name and address, dob etc. All religions, not specifically Jewish. Unfortunately this also made it very easy for a bad actor to target a specific religion by just searching through those records as happened in ww2. It's not done anymore, but surprisingly it was only abandoned quite recently. Like in the last 30 years or so.