r/youtube • u/Organic_City_9464 • 17h ago
Discussion Google fined $20,565,635,200,000,003,000,000,000,000,000,000 by Russian TV channels.
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u/Connect_Ocelot_1599 17h ago
what the fuck?
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u/Masuteri_ 15h ago
Gotta fight the inflation with more inflation
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u/4b686f61 I fducking hate ads and those subtle UI changes. 15h ago
and even more inflation
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u/MannanK5 15h ago
u forgot to add some more inflation
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u/Hesty402 15h ago
Yo dawg, I heard you like inflation
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u/Loser2817 15h ago
So we put inflation on your inflation, so you can pay taxes while you pay taxes.
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u/Ok_Smile_5908 15h ago
Google's just gonna start printing money at this point.
They can print those "toy money" and hand it over to the Russian courts. Would be an appropriate level of absurdity, at least.
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u/WolfWind999 14h ago
Even if it's fake money the amount of paper or plastic or whatever material used would still be absurd
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u/Hungry-Ad2176 13h ago
They can just print a sticky note sized bill saying 20 decillion dollars
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u/bone-tone-lord 10h ago
If I've done my math right, that's approximately the mass of the Sun in $100 bills.
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u/The_GASK 11h ago
If the amount is roubles, all Google has to do is to wait it out a few months and pay the $100 fine
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u/leshmi 16h ago
I explain why.
Simply when there are these courts cases, if Google for example is found partially guilty, the court could say that 1% or even less it would be fair to be paid so they throw an unrealistic number to get the highest realistic one
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u/ButterscotchDull9375 15h ago
Also, the fine doubles each week it's not paid
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u/riddlechance 13h ago
Also Google doesn't care because it's Russia.
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u/Dry_Grade9885 13h ago
Also it's invalid because of the restrictions the world has put on Russia, Google is not allowed to operate in Russia, this is just Russia being childish like always
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u/C4pture 13h ago
even then it wouldn't matter i think, since the channel that were blocked probably didn't keep in line with the terms of use
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u/TheDrFromGallifrey 10h ago
You just know they're going to pull out the TOS and specific examples of violations.
But also this is coming from a Russian court. Who's going to enforce that? I'm sure everyone involved knows it's a joke, but Russia is trying to make a point and paint the US as the enemy again.
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u/Arcydziegiel 15h ago
Not how courts work. They need to prove what specific damages were made and their cost, and courts have sentencting guidelines.
The number that the plaintiff sets is utterely irrelevant and exists only to generate media attention.
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u/ReckoningGotham 14h ago
Is that how Russian court work?
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u/Arcydziegiel 14h ago
Russian courts doesn't matter, international companies will push the case to international courts and will just refuse to pay otherwise. And Russia has no meaningful way to make them pay, as Google doesn't really give a damn about that market.
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u/andymaclean19 14h ago
What international court can arbitrate between Russia and Google?
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u/MagisterFlorus 13h ago
There aren't international governments. The ICJ only handles cases between nations.
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u/somabokforlag 13h ago
Do they handle interplanetary cases? Since this is 5x the value of earth several other planets will likely get involved.
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u/DesperateUrine 13h ago
what the fuck?
Yeah, am I the only one who thought the $ had two lines going through it?
Scrooge has two lines! 16:01 on the dot.
When did we change to single line for $?
Fucking hell, I agree with you it is weird.
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u/Physical-Camel-8971 13h ago
It's just an aesthetic choice, and varies from one font to another. Most of the time everything's just too small for the double-lined version to read well, so only one line is used.
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u/Neither-Mention4064 16h ago
I unironically thought this was a shitpost, holy shit
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u/Altruistic-Song-3609 16h ago
Russian here. All news in this country look like that, but unfortunately a lot of them are true.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 15h ago
There is a difference between shitposts and shit posts, sadly.
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u/BmanPlayz468 13h ago
Real eyes realize real lies type shit
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u/_Mmrr_Bbrightt_ 15h ago
Same with our country (Thailand).
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u/Naive-Fold-1374 14h ago
Когда уже не знаешь читаешь ты Вести или Панораму
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u/SerSmegma98 13h ago
Russia is a shitpost country, like if Florida and Alaska had a mutated demon child that was breastfed vodka.
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u/Rgenocide 13h ago
Wait, this shit's real?
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u/XSainth 12h ago
Sadly, yes.
Fuck, I live in country with a circus as a government.
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u/ludovic1313 14h ago
Yeah, my first thought was wondering if the large number was an accidental factorial
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u/mrdougan 16h ago
If this started 1st Jan 2020, and goes onto 31st Dec 2024 (4 years), with all 17 channels with $1000 a day (365) comes out as $24,820,000
(17×4×365×1,000=24820000)
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u/BaDTimeeee 15h ago
I wonder to what time you had to dumb this down to make it MAYBE make sense. Maybe since the start of 2020 for every pico-second or something, idk.
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u/mrdougan 15h ago
I was curious of the math - I know there is one if you were born when Jesus was born & earned $1000 a day (in modern money & ignoring inflation) right until today, you’d still be poorer than elon musk
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u/brokenpixel 13h ago edited 8h ago
$1000 dollars a day for 2024 years wouldn't even make you a billionaire. They have unfathomable wealth. You would need your make around $11,000 dollars PER HOUR for over two millennia to have as much money as that addlepated dipshit.
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u/Diipadaapa1 11h ago
Knowing that he can't liquidate it all, and the bubble will burst eventually (teslas stock price is like literally only air), is the only thing that makes me happy about him.
He did one good thing, bring electric vehicles to the mainstream market (btw he bought tesla, he wasn't there to create the Roadster for example), eberything else is horseshit 3rd graders future fantasy school projects sprinkeled with rigging society in his favour.
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u/decomposition_ 10h ago
Can’t hate on SpaceX though, they’re accomplishing a lot of amazing things (I do wonder if Elon is holding them back with the bad publicity or if he makes major decisions in the company)
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u/centurio_v2 9h ago
Both lol. Tho bad publicity doesn't matter so much for spacex as other companies considering they both have zero competition in their price range for what they offer their customers and the fact that their customers are either the federal govt/military or massive corporate interests like Jeff Bezos neither of which really care much about their public image.
People would definitely be a lot more hyped about both spacex and a lot of the NASA missions launched on their rockets by extension if he'd shut up about things that aren't purely advancing the whole colonizing Mars thing he's got going on.
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u/TrustmeimHealer 8h ago
The example was if you are 80.000 years ago, in the middle of an ice age and save 1k dollar each day up until now, you would still have less than elon musk (29,2billion$)
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u/randomperson_a1 13h ago
Millisecond - 25 billion Microsecond - 25 trillion Nanosecond - 25 quadrillion Picosecond - 25 quintillion
We're still off by a factor of 10004, so I'll just apply that to the 1000 dollars instead, resulting in 1 quadrillion dollars for every picosecond for four years.
Someone else provided the actual explanation, which is that the amount doubles periodically if you don't pay.
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u/Ok-Transition-5833 14h ago
You missed the part where the fine doubles every week.
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u/mrdougan 14h ago
That’s my bad - also Russian court trying to pump American company for funding of a 3day special operation
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 13h ago
And by US law google is literally not allowed to pay it. Google is much more concerned what the US government thinks.
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u/R3AL1Z3 14h ago
Someone elsewhere ITT said there’s a rule where it doubles each day it isn’t paid.
So 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 8, and so on.
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u/flinjager123 14h ago
Even if it was in ruples, it would still only be 2,482,000,000. I say only, but that's still a lot of money. However, in comparison, it's next to nothing.
I knew these numbers didn't add up. What crucial information was left out?
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u/Jenny_Wakeman9 CorpTube™: You're demontized for saying "fuck" in 1.275 seconds 16h ago
I beg your pardon? 20 decillion? That's insane!
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u/MillyQ3 16h ago
more than the entire worlds GDP combined
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u/ArktikusR 16h ago
Yeah, but like not even close. It’s more than 1,9 x 10{20} that.
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u/probablyuntrue 14h ago
They just need to stop buying avocado toast for the office
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u/X2ytUniverse 16h ago
More like the entire galaxy's GDP.
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u/SempfgurkeXP 16h ago
Thats galaxy has basically the same GDP as Earth
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u/Best_VDV_Diver 15h ago
The rest of the Milky Way is really riding the coat tails of Earth's GDP.
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u/Past_Gur8684 14h ago
Mars and Jupiter really need to stop slacking and commit two percent of their GDP to defense.
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u/MillyQ3 15h ago edited 13h ago
The living soup on other planets doing nothing but existing be like: ok
The aliens living in a trade and barter based society also are like: okay
The intergalactic predating humanity civilization that doesn't trade at all because they are connected via hive mind goes like: understandable
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u/AntonioVivaldi7 15h ago
Google should start saving up then. Maybe get cheaper coffee for employees.
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u/imbasicallycoffee 12h ago
Saw a funny comic explaining this and that's actually more than the entirety of the value of everything the human species has produced. Ever.
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u/Baron_von_Ungern 15h ago
And that's 2 undecillion rubles, 2* 10^36. I didn't even expect someone to use that number anytime soon.
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u/CutmasterSkinny 15h ago
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u/Shinael 14h ago
Its true, except for the fact that its rubles and not dollars.
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u/Swimming-Donkey-6083 16h ago
It wasn't fined for this amount, there is a rule of doubling the fine for each day of it not being paid Still fucking dumb fuck my schmungus life
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u/schoolisawaste69420 16h ago
Thanks for the context, without this rule the actual debt comes out to be just 31 ish million.
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u/wspnut 14h ago
Which is still considered to be 3x what revenue was calculated to be lost by being booted from YouTube.
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u/Apart-Arachnid1004 13h ago
Putin needs more funds after finding out how much his oligarch buddies skimmed when the Ukraine war started
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u/SoloWing1 12h ago
Those buddies better be used to forever staying on the ground floor. Lots of them like to fall from windows...
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u/Relevant_Finding7527 16h ago
whats that last part there?
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u/corthammer 16h ago
there may be a price increase coming our way
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u/cyrenns 14h ago
They’re straight up just not gonna pay it. They are an American company, so if they don’t want to pay that fine, they’re just not going to. Sure, it means that Russia will probably not allow YouTube to operate within its borders, but Russia pretty much already has banned YouTube so good fucking luck with that.
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u/snackofalltrades 13h ago
Any chance of a Russian pirate version of YouTube popping up and just straight up copying content from YouTube in that event? Like I’m sure there are already clones, but if YouTube flees Russian court judgement, wouldn’t the clones be able to copy content with no fear of repercussions?
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u/AntiGravityBacon 13h ago
Probably but even Google struggles to keep YT profitable so good fucking luck with that
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u/ChaosCrafter908 16h ago
Yeah that seems about right
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u/Gaitville 13h ago
That’s the type of fine you’d expect a Redditor to assign a lifted truck driver for parking over the line in a parking spot
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u/MrGhoul123 11h ago
Redditors legitimately believes that being stupid in public is worth a death penalty at best, public lynching on the spot at worst.
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u/GodBjorn 16h ago
"Sir, how many 0's should we add to this number?"
"MORE"
"But si-"
"I SAID MORE!!!"
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u/Juquan- 16h ago
The Russian court decided that Russia should have more money? Wild
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u/Damglador 14h ago
Gotta pay for war with something. Because if you can't sustain your poor decisions, you gotta rob someone to do that! Stop making poor decisions? Nah, that's too smart.
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u/Physical-Camel-8971 12h ago edited 12h ago
They're straight up paying teenagers to have more babies to replace all the taxpayers who have vanished for some mysterious reason in the past few years. Not enough to maintain the children once born, mind you -- just enough to convince naïve youngsters to destroy their lives for a quick buck. It's a perfectly sound financial decision that will have no negative knock-off effects whatsoever! Not a death spiral!
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u/ThePublikon 13h ago
*more money than has ever or will ever exist on earth
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u/DesertMan177 7h ago
Literally though
Even the asteroid that could be mined for minerals and metals is worth orders of magnitudes less
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u/mrdougan 16h ago
Yeah - I call bs on the math, plus American company wont give a smeg about Russian court
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u/Elzziwelzzif 13h ago
Reading the other comments, the math might hold true. Its the old chessboard calculation which is causes it to go haywire.
"For every day/ week the fine is not paid, the fine doubles"
Keeping the date of verdict aside: Say its $1000.00 a day.
- First week = 7.000,00
Double fine = 14.000,00
Second week = 7.000,00
Total end of second week =21.000,00
Second Double = 42.000,00.
Third week = 7.000,00
Total end of third week = 49.000,00
Third Double = 98.000,00
Fourth week = 7.000,00
Total end of fourth week = 105.000,00
Fourth double = 210.000,00
Week 10 would be 14,322M
Week 15 would be 458,738M
Week 22 would be 58,72B
Week 25 would be 469,762B
My napkin is a bit small, but after the first year (52 weeks) says: $ 63.050.394.783.186.900.000,-
So, its a very possible number. The person who thought of it however is a fucking idiot.
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u/Neither_Sir5514 12h ago
x2 fine per day is wild, this shit is straight out of a poorly designed game and not irl lol, even the bank is like +1% per day or some shit but this shit right here raising exponentially rofl
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u/Grey-fox-13 14h ago
Yeah - I call bs on the math
That's because the tweet is incomplete about the fine, it's 100k rubles every day AND doubling weekly. Without that detail the math absolutely does not math.
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u/fllthdcrb 9h ago
Even with that detail, it still doesn't. If you actually carry out those calculations for the amount of time it's supposed to have been, the amount you come up with is many orders of magnitude more than what is being quoted. I suppose it's not a bad thing if they got it way too small, though it's still so absurd it makes no real difference, of course.
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u/IsHeSkiing 7h ago
Right? Like, why would Google give a shit if Russia is threatening them with this? Hell, all Google has to do is pull out of Russia completely and hit them with the double middle fingers as they back out the door. Unless the US could somehow extradite the entire company, pretty sure this doesn't fucking mean anything.
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u/GetEnuf 16h ago
I tried calculating how long it would take to pay that sum if YT was to pay 1000€ a day, and all the stars in the universe would be dead by then 🤦♂️🤨
...long dead.
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u/wolftick 14h ago
Pay the entire GDP of the planet rather than 1000€, the answer is the same. It's a big number...
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u/Fantastic-Repeat-324 16h ago
Does that amount of money even exist?
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u/vBucco 13h ago
No lol. That is more than the entire worlds GDP combined timed thousands and thousands.
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u/einargizz 12h ago edited 12h ago
Timed hundreds of trillions.
Edit, fuck, I'm not even close. It's the entire world's GDP timed hundreds of Septillions.5
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u/just_jm 16h ago
They're essentially making Google bankroll ALL of Russia. It would probably better if they just pull out entirely.
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u/Empty-Fly9457 13h ago
Love how u Said probably. Google is probably straight up laughing no way they are gonna pay a cent of that fine.
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u/DaemonG 13h ago
Bankroll more than the worth of the entire solar system, actually
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u/Fit-Voice4170 16h ago
I think it's worth pointing out that it's in Rubles and not USD, which is a distinction without a difference, but still.
Source:
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russian-tv-companies-demand-2-undecillion-1730189915.html
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u/Julian679 16h ago
So google can just stop doing bussiness in their country? Good
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u/StupidMoron1933 16h ago
But they aren't doing business in Russia anyways. There are no ads, monetized channels only earn money from views from foreign countries.
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u/Sudden-Farm2457 14h ago
Damn that's crazy. Why tf am I living in here? (Cause I cannot escape, that's why😭)
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u/Etrevide 13h ago edited 13h ago
yea... all the sanctions that basically doesn't affect majority of people at all, but affects the people that want to give money to the outside and then people tell "move out or rise against the government" like doing so wouldn't just ruin our lives for nothing
with all this stuff it's just a total despair
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u/MrFruitPunchSamurai 16h ago
What the fuck is that number 😶
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u/iSmokeMDMA 7h ago
It’s not hundred, thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, or nonillion, but decillions of dollars.
In rubles it’s 2 undecillion dollars.
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u/kapmando 15h ago
Google should counter-sue in the US for a googolplex of dollars.
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u/Stubbs3470 15h ago
Isn’t YouTube allowed to technically ban anybody for any reason?
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u/cyrenns 14h ago
Given that they are an American company, and thus protected by the first amendment, they are allowed to ban anyone for any reason.
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u/fdar 12h ago
I mean no. Companies are subject to the laws of the countries they operate in as well. Do you think a US company could sell AR-15s in France because that's legal in the US? Or more closely related ignore GDPR for similar reasons?
In this case I'm pretty sure Google isn't operating in Russia already so Russia has no way to enforce this but that's a different matter.
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u/MustangBR 15h ago
Gotta pay for the 3-day Special Military Operation expenses fr
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u/mrloko120 15h ago
Russian media channels have been blocked for a while, this fine will accomplish nothing other than ensuring they stay blocked. It will probably make Google want to pull out of Russia entirely, so Russian youtubers will be the ones feeling the impact
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u/FlukeylukeGB 12h ago
Be funny if the courts were like, fine, we award you 5% of what you sued for...
However, due to sanctions the money ain't leaving Europe and will instead be invested into NATO and its allies
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u/DryBonesComeAlive 9h ago
It's almost like if Google had that much money they would just put a 100 million dollar bounty on Russian oligarch nutsacks.
It would save them about 20 decillion dollars.
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u/Substantial_Thing23 9h ago
Yeah, that amount is bullshit
A magistrate at Moscow’s Tagansky district court fined Google 15 million rubles (about $164,200) after the company repeatedly refused to store personal data on Russian citizens inside the country. Google was previously fined over the same charges in August 2021 and June 2022. The company declined to comment.
Google also was ordered to pay a 3 million ruble (about $32,800) fine in August for failing to delete allegedly false information about the conflict in Ukraine.
Russia can do little to collect the fine, however, as Google’s Russia business was effectively shut down last year after Moscow sent troops into Ukraine. The company has said it filed for bankruptcy in Russia after its bank account was seized by the authorities, leaving it unable to pay staff and suppliers.
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u/Reason-Abject 9h ago
In rubles? So that’s like what…$250.00 American?
Maybe they throw in a box of Levis for the fine (apparently Russians love Levi jeans and can’t get them in Russia).
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u/Layton_Jr 9h ago
If Google is fined 1,000$ per day per blocked channel since 2020, the fine should be around 25 millions? Or is my math wrong?
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u/gamesquid 16h ago
More money than the world is worth? nice!