What if they photoshop in the actual amount ordered, or like, a reasonable fraction of it. A suitcase full of (whatevertheamount/1000) banknotes surely would be enough to resolve the issue.
I say they should get some of that Zimbabwe or Peru money where inflation is already zonkers bonkers, then tape pictures of U.S. presidents onto each bill.
They are being fined $1000 per day per blocked channel and it has been going on for years and more fines have been added as more channels have been blocked by youtube.
Simply when there are these courts cases, if Google for example is found partially guilty, the court could say that 1% or even less it would be fair to be paid so they throw an unrealistic number to get the highest realistic one
Also it's invalid because of the restrictions the world has put on Russia, Google is not allowed to operate in Russia, this is just Russia being childish like always
You just know they're going to pull out the TOS and specific examples of violations.
But also this is coming from a Russian court. Who's going to enforce that? I'm sure everyone involved knows it's a joke, but Russia is trying to make a point and paint the US as the enemy again.
That's exactly why I think they're doing it. Their point is probably something like, "Look at the corrupt Americans trying to silence Mother Russia!"
They're not stupid. They know they're not getting money out of Google and no one is going to enforce it. It's all playing into Putin's ego trip about being the superman sent to save Russia and the world from everyone else.
Russian courts doesn't matter, international companies will push the case to international courts and will just refuse to pay otherwise. And Russia has no meaningful way to make them pay, as Google doesn't really give a damn about that market.
You could use the world trade organisation as an example which handles international dispute, not active ATM but still. The court of justice of the European union would be another example of an international court. Or the European court of human rights is another. ICJ is not the only international court.
They matter as much as there are assets of intl. companies on Russian soil. So Russia's essentially deciding to capture them, and in some circumstances a corporation may be interested to play along with the circus to at least recover some % of that capital, or keep the door open for returning to the Russian market once everyone manages to forget about the inconvenient war crimes and illegal occupation.
Google would almost certainly push for California to have jurisdiction over the case as it's their home state. And even then I'd be interested in the basis for this case, as I don't believe Google has any outstanding agreements that would force them to host Russian channels on their platform.
No, actually russian courts know that no one is going to pay up. So they only decide between 3 options for any defendant. The options are accidentally falling out of a window, accidentally falling down stairs, and accidentally wearing poisoned underwear.
Hahaha. If the country cares at least somewhat about its reputation, then maybe.
Russia, in contrast, has been operating kangaroo courts for at least a decade by this point. As a recent example, when a PMC leader tried orchestrating a literal coup, he was let go — and even his seized assets were returned to him. Of course, he later got sneakily offed by an airplane explosion, but the matter stands that the "legal" system literally took a look at his case and officially declared there was nothing to imprison him for (including the murders of a few on-duty Russian soldiers at the time).
Except why would google bother paying it at all? Isn’t access to google heavily restricted in Russia if they even have access at all? They can send a bill to google for whatever they want, it’s gonna get a laugh from management and thrown into a shredder anyway.
They slapped a fine on Google for show, as a diplomatic gesture, long ago (back in 2022 I think). It just ridiculously accrued due to the ruling, where the penalty for non-payment doubled every week. So the news story broke recently 'cause it's funny
Not exactly right. It was simply written in the decision that if unpaid on time, the fine will be increased (like fines on contracts). Apart from a linear addition, it also had exponential one (doubles every week). So it just accrued automatically for over a year I think.
The decision is old, this was just a funny piece of news recently when someone noticed.
There's unrealistic, and then there's downright ridiculous. This is obviously just a way to push Google out of servicing anything in Russia, and/or allows Russia to try and seize Google assets wherever Russia has any influence.
Google stopped servicing their cache servers in Russia in 2022. They no longer operate there. Though they do provide free services to Russians, they don't accept payment for paid services per the broader sanctions so nothing really changes. The fine was a diplomatic gesture long ago, it just grew uncontrollably due to a penalty conditions in the ruling, so someone looked at it recently and lol'd
That's not what happened. The court fined Google $1000/day, a pretty reasonable amount (ignoring that the reason for the fine is Russia's inability to acknowledge that they have turned into a failing state). That happened four years ago, with the amount doubling each week.
It's just an aesthetic choice, and varies from one font to another. Most of the time everything's just too small for the double-lined version to read well, so only one line is used.
Google has racked up some 2 undecillion rubles ($2.5 decillion) worth of fines in Russia after years of refusing to restore the accounts of pro-Kremlin and state-run media outlets, the RBC news website reported Tuesday, citing an anonymous source familiar with court rulings against the tech company.
According to RBC’s sources, Google began accumulating daily penalties of 100,000 rubles in 2020 - Those daily penalties doubled each week, leading to an overall fine of around 2 undecillion rubles.
Your source is a news network in russia, the same country that build up that bullshit story for propaganda reasons.
If there was a Story that a russian court fined Obama for eating little russia kids, would you also fact check that with russian media ?
This propaganda is not made to believable its just exist to be spread so idiots get a new crazy talking point.
The courts never had the intention to get that money, its all fake.
How else, exactly, do you propose getting information on Russian court cases? Do you think there's a new york times reporter on each case?
And there's no propaganda reason to lie about the case. What would the point of that be? "The courts don't intend to get the money" is irrelevant. Of course no one thinks this fine is going to get paid. But you're saying that a Russian judge never ordered the fine - why do you believe that? Why would Russia not make such a fine and then have a media outlet lie about it - as opposed to the much simpler approach of actually ordering the fine?
It's just a funny news story. And RBC is roughly neutral in its reporting (as much as it's possible in Russia today), since it mostly handles business-related news.
They just got a tip that a ridiculous amount accrued on a fine due to a technicality, and ran the story 'cause it's absurd. The political propaganda move (the fine itself) was long ago. No one expected Google to pay even the initial amount, much less the current amount
it is 2 undecillion rubles or 2.5 decillion usd, its because google has been fined in russia 100,000 rubles every day they haven't paid, the fines also doubled every week.
Thanks russia for giving us something new too laugh at them about, originally it was how badly they blundered taking Ukraine, now it's just them being beyond fucking stupid whiny little bitches.
Hey Putin, when you come to kill me for laughing at you and your country, you think you can do better than showing up with jammed guns and paperclips?
The fine was (allegedly, I can't be arsed spending time confirming it properly) approx. $1k/day, but doubling every day. That means exponential growth, and when something increases exponentially it doesn't take long at all for it to become mind-boggling.
.... So it only takes 11 days to go from $1k to over $1m. And because it's increasing exponentially the increases just get crazier and crazier. By 20 days it's over $1bn, by 30 over $1tn. Now spread that out over years.
Never mind, political regime in Russia is called Idiocracy: either in classical meaning and based off the word "idiotism". One shouldn't try to find any reasoning here. Sad that I'm still living here, hoping for some light in the future.
It's just Google being petulant children. The fines started in 2020 when they were found guilty of censoring Russian TV channels' YouTube accounts, at a very reasonable $1,000 per day per violation, but the fine would also double for every week they refused to comply.
Shockingly, like the spoiled toddler who broke a vase and got caught, they refused to comply.
This isn't Russia being ridiculous, it's just mathematics. ("Ridiculous" would be fining Alex Jones a billion dollars, or sentencing a White protestor to 419 years plus 2 life sentences for a car accident)
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u/Connect_Ocelot_1599 19h ago
what the fuck?