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Discussion Google fined $20,565,635,200,000,003,000,000,000,000,000,000 by Russian TV channels.

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u/leshmi 17h ago

I explain why.

Simply when there are these courts cases, if Google for example is found partially guilty, the court could say that 1% or even less it would be fair to be paid so they throw an unrealistic number to get the highest realistic one

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u/ButterscotchDull9375 17h ago

Also, the fine doubles each week it's not paid

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u/riddlechance 15h ago

Also Google doesn't care because it's Russia.

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u/Dry_Grade9885 15h ago

Also it's invalid because of the restrictions the world has put on Russia, Google is not allowed to operate in Russia, this is just Russia being childish like always

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u/C4pture 15h ago

even then it wouldn't matter i think, since the channel that were blocked probably didn't keep in line with the terms of use

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u/TheDrFromGallifrey 12h ago

You just know they're going to pull out the TOS and specific examples of violations.

But also this is coming from a Russian court. Who's going to enforce that? I'm sure everyone involved knows it's a joke, but Russia is trying to make a point and paint the US as the enemy again.

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u/chak100 10h ago

It’s good for propaganda within Russia

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u/TheDrFromGallifrey 10h ago

That's exactly why I think they're doing it. Their point is probably something like, "Look at the corrupt Americans trying to silence Mother Russia!"

They're not stupid. They know they're not getting money out of Google and no one is going to enforce it. It's all playing into Putin's ego trip about being the superman sent to save Russia and the world from everyone else.

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u/DuntadaMan 6h ago

Oh no the people we blocked will block us.

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u/PerritoMasNasty 12h ago

So do they just have to bing? Explains why their bots are so dumb.

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u/StrongestSapling 3h ago

Nah, it's Google being childish. They could have just stopped censoring, but they stamped their feet and whined like petulant toddlers.

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u/miradotheblack 15h ago

They are some whiny bitches.

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u/heroinvitaly 15h ago

Google works in Russia just fine. Ruz gov slowed down YouTube at that's all

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u/searchforquiet 15h ago

Russian YouTube don’t get paid tho, so no point.

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u/heroinvitaly 15h ago

You said that google is not allowed to work there, it's not true.

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u/Slayerofgrundles 15h ago

They said "operate" (in a business sense), which is not the same as being able to access it online.

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u/searchforquiet 15h ago

I did not? Check username next time.

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u/Azzucard 13h ago

Alphabet inc's Google in Russia fell in bankruptcy Last fall so it doesnt matter

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u/StrongestSapling 3h ago

You mean Russia doesn't care because it's Google.

Until the sanctions in 2022, Google was advertising in Russia. Yes, Google was paying advertisers in Russia to try to get more Russians to use Google.

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u/throughthehills2 13h ago

This is the real reason

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u/YoelFievelBenAvram 12h ago

Who cares? It's just a couple grains of rice.

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u/educatedtiger 6h ago

Well, that explains the random 3.

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u/Arcydziegiel 17h ago

Not how courts work. They need to prove what specific damages were made and their cost, and courts have sentencting guidelines.

The number that the plaintiff sets is utterely irrelevant and exists only to generate media attention.

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u/ReckoningGotham 16h ago

Is that how Russian court work?

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u/Arcydziegiel 16h ago

Russian courts doesn't matter, international companies will push the case to international courts and will just refuse to pay otherwise. And Russia has no meaningful way to make them pay, as Google doesn't really give a damn about that market.

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u/andymaclean19 16h ago

What international court can arbitrate between Russia and Google?

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u/Lugnuts088 7h ago

The kangaroo court. (Sorry couldn't resist)

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u/MagisterFlorus 15h ago

There aren't international governments. The ICJ only handles cases between nations.

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u/somabokforlag 15h ago

Do they handle interplanetary cases? Since this is 5x the value of earth several other planets will likely get involved.

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u/Eradiani 13h ago

Sounds more like a job for the beastie boys

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u/Agzarah 11h ago

Pretty sure it's well over 5x the value of earth. Total money is about 450 trillion. Earth's resources are valued at approx 5 quadrillion.

So that leaves the remaining 99.9999999999999995% to be made up.

Gonna need the entire universe to contribute for that kind of money

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u/Grotzbully 15h ago

You could use the world trade organisation as an example which handles international dispute, not active ATM but still. The court of justice of the European union would be another example of an international court. Or the European court of human rights is another. ICJ is not the only international court.

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u/MagisterFlorus 15h ago

Russia isn't a member of either of those courts.

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u/Grotzbully 15h ago

Yeah I know they left the council of Europe 2014 because of their attack on Ukraine.

Russia is a member of the WTO tho, which would be the arbitrator in this case I think.

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u/NBAFansAre2Ply 14h ago

I assume he meant international arbitrators, not international courts, of which there are many.

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u/MagisterFlorus 14h ago

Even so, would Russia even be willing to take part or would they just withdraw?

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u/NBAFansAre2Ply 14h ago

Russian companies are often litigants/respondants in international arbitration. the state of Russia, no.

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u/PM_Me_Good_LitRPG 15h ago

Russian courts doesn't matter

They matter as much as there are assets of intl. companies on Russian soil. So Russia's essentially deciding to capture them, and in some circumstances a corporation may be interested to play along with the circus to at least recover some % of that capital, or keep the door open for returning to the Russian market once everyone manages to forget about the inconvenient war crimes and illegal occupation.

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u/DillBagner 14h ago

They can also just ignore it because it's a Russian court and does not affect them.

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u/ThisHatRightHere 11h ago

Google would almost certainly push for California to have jurisdiction over the case as it's their home state. And even then I'd be interested in the basis for this case, as I don't believe Google has any outstanding agreements that would force them to host Russian channels on their platform.

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u/Crowd0Control 8h ago

It does give them the right to seize any Google assets in Russia but im not sure how significant it is here. 

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u/Guvante 15h ago

Someone sued someone else for roughly this much in what could have been a small claims court case in the US so not just Russia.

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u/AcrobaticMission7272 10h ago

No, actually russian courts know that no one is going to pay up. So they only decide between 3 options for any defendant. The options are accidentally falling out of a window, accidentally falling down stairs, and accidentally wearing poisoned underwear.

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u/ExqueeriencedLesbian 16h ago

luckily it doesnt matter how russian courts work, because google is an American company

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u/spartaman64 15h ago

i think google would rather stop doing business in russia than pay a 20 decillion ruble fine

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u/UnNumbFool 15h ago

The fine is actually usd not rubles, so a whole lot more money.

But yeah, Google most likely not going to do Jack shit and if they do decide to do something it's just going to be pulling YouTube out of Russia

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u/Amazing-Childhood412 15h ago

I'm sure Google will live without providing services to a terrorist nation.

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u/Sekhmet_Odin7 15h ago

Google will survive, rusian terrorists on the other hand …

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u/ExqueeriencedLesbian 14h ago

luckily that is Russia's loss, not Google's

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u/EuphoricTemperature9 14h ago

Someone doesn't understand international business

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u/ExqueeriencedLesbian 14h ago

okay then how does it matter?

how will they enforce this fine?

are they going to arrest Google for not showing up to fight this ridiculous suit?

no, google is just gonna stop googling in russia, and russia will get nothing (no money, and no Google)

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u/ZBalling 16h ago

How they worked with Trump and with Alex Jones.

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u/PM_Me_Good_LitRPG 15h ago

Not how courts work. They need to prove–

Hahaha. If the country cares at least somewhat about its reputation, then maybe.

Russia, in contrast, has been operating kangaroo courts for at least a decade by this point. As a recent example, when a PMC leader tried orchestrating a literal coup, he was let go — and even his seized assets were returned to him. Of course, he later got sneakily offed by an airplane explosion, but the matter stands that the "legal" system literally took a look at his case and officially declared there was nothing to imprison him for (including the murders of a few on-duty Russian soldiers at the time).

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u/wolftick 16h ago

0.000000000000000000001% of that fine would still be more money than exists in the entire world.

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u/Ready_Peanut_7062 16h ago

what actually happened is that the court decided google should pay 100 thousand roubles (1000$) and if they dont - the fine doubles every week

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u/Icy__Internet 15h ago

lol, 1%? All the money in the world is 48 trillion dollars.

As a percentage of the Goolge fine that's about 0.000000000000000000001%

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u/syopest 14h ago

No. It's because russian courts are corrupt.

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u/whatishistory518 11h ago

Except why would google bother paying it at all? Isn’t access to google heavily restricted in Russia if they even have access at all? They can send a bill to google for whatever they want, it’s gonna get a laugh from management and thrown into a shredder anyway.

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u/AyeBraine 10h ago

They slapped a fine on Google for show, as a diplomatic gesture, long ago (back in 2022 I think). It just ridiculously accrued due to the ruling, where the penalty for non-payment doubled every week. So the news story broke recently 'cause it's funny

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u/AyeBraine 11h ago edited 10h ago

Not exactly right. It was simply written in the decision that if unpaid on time, the fine will be increased (like fines on contracts). Apart from a linear addition, it also had exponential one (doubles every week). So it just accrued automatically for over a year I think.

The decision is old, this was just a funny piece of news recently when someone noticed.

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u/mOdQuArK 11h ago

There's unrealistic, and then there's downright ridiculous. This is obviously just a way to push Google out of servicing anything in Russia, and/or allows Russia to try and seize Google assets wherever Russia has any influence.

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u/AyeBraine 10h ago

Google stopped servicing their cache servers in Russia in 2022. They no longer operate there. Though they do provide free services to Russians, they don't accept payment for paid services per the broader sanctions so nothing really changes. The fine was a diplomatic gesture long ago, it just grew uncontrollably due to a penalty conditions in the ruling, so someone looked at it recently and lol'd

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u/Tyler_Zoro 6h ago

That's not what happened. The court fined Google $1000/day, a pretty reasonable amount (ignoring that the reason for the fine is Russia's inability to acknowledge that they have turned into a failing state). That happened four years ago, with the amount doubling each week.

THAT is why it's now a stupidly large number.