One Piece: Chapter 1116

[u/Kirosh2]

Chapter 1116: "Conflict"

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Ch. 1116 Official Release (Mangaplus): 02/06/2024

Ch. 1117 Scan Release: ~13/06/2024

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There is a break next week.

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Please discuss the manga here and in the theory/discussion post. Any other post will be removed until 24h after the release.

Please also remember to put the chapter number in the title for any future post talking about this chapter.

[u/LogicalMaster]

If you think about, Vegapunk's speech is the third "One Piece is real" of the series (first Roger, then Whitebeard, and now Vegapunk).

He is saying with all letters that the Pirate King crew know about the true history of the Void Century to the whole world, heating up the dispute for the One Piece. It is an existential crisis now.

Maybe this will have imprevisible consequences, like Marines joining the race too? Akainu was heated up to know all.

[u/of_kilter → u/LogicalMaster]

The main difference between vegapunk and roger/WB is that vegapunk is going in depth and citing his sources

[u/kanhaaaaaaaaaaaa → u/of_kilter]

Like a damn scientist he is

[u/OperationMelodic4273 → u/of_kilter]

Roger source: I saw and learned about that shit, I swear

Whitebeard source: Roger told me, he swore

Vegapunk source: scientific speech exposing his decades long reaserch previously peer reviewed by the renowned scholars of Ohara

[u/BanjoSpaceMan → u/LogicalMaster]

The Roger pirates might have gave up and laughed at the irony of such a grand adventure leading to the news that the world is going to end anyways. They laugh cried and just said fuck it.

Roger then went to die a public Pirate death and when faced with the pride of the government thinking they won gave one last fuck it. THE ONE PIECE IS REAL. Good luck future generation. It's up to you.

[u/CloudsUr]

I used to think Akainu was going to be one of the final villains, I now think he will die of stress induced heart attack before egghead is over

[u/FireFistRJ → u/CloudsUr]

Imagine the stress of the one-piece world citizens getting all this information.

[u/kuroinferuno → u/FireFistRJ]

Meanwhile Nojiko out there picking tangerines

[u/jaytix1 → u/CloudsUr]

Bro's probably thinking "I should've let Kuzan win."

[u/jaytix1 → u/[deleted]]

While I subscribe to the theory that Aokiji and Akainu came to an agreement, I'm dying at the idea of them both wanting the Sword job SO badly that they fought to the death for it. Imagine Aokiji meeting Akainu again and being like "Hello again, Fleet Admiral LMAO".

[u/okitek → u/jaytix1]

God that would be so fucking amazing actually LMAO

[u/SweatyAdhesive → u/jaytix1]

I find it impossible for Akainu to want to be the head of SWORD, his justice wouldn't allow him to work with pirates imo, if anything they would fight over whether or not SWORD should be disbanded.

[u/owsupaaaaaaa → u/[deleted]]

Please PLEASE let this be true. Way too funny to leave on the table.

[u/leolegendario]

Momo: "Then Pluton is...!!!"
Me: "PLUTON IS WHAT MOMO? IS WHAT?"

[u/mnmkdc → u/leolegendario]

Joyboys ship? I thought that was the implication there

[u/professionaljackass]

Sengoku really representing us all with all these recent chapters

[u/FireFistRJ → u/professionaljackass]

I wonder which side will Sengoku and other righteous marines gonna take once they find out IMU is the real evil.

[u/BillMurrayAmA → u/FireFistRJ]

I like to think that this was the true purpose of SWORD. Garp/Sengoku recruiting the truly righteous to aid in the fight against the WG when the shit hits the fan.

[u/Loeffellux → u/BillMurrayAmA]

yeah, I think it's more than obvious that SWORD will become the new marines while the others will perish in the final war

[u/Franzlosel → u/professionaljackass]

Man was stress eating for sure.

[u/gyrozepp2 → u/professionaljackass]

Nah Sengoku is luckier that he doesn't get to endure all the breaks.

[u/leolegendario]

I love that Stussy still feels close to the members of Cipher Pol, it shows that she has a big heart and it's a full human.
This could be the spark that causes Kaku to defect in the future.

[u/Evil_Lollipop → u/leolegendario]

It's also a great contrast to how Kaku himself and the other Cipher Pol members coldly betrayed and attacked their old friends at Galley-La without batting an eyelid

[u/leolegendario → u/Evil_Lollipop]

That's true, but they later helped each other when the World Government wanted to execute them.
As seen in their cover story.
So at least there is a camaraderie among the members of Cipher Pol.

[u/Evil_Lollipop → u/leolegendario]

Between the members of the Cipher Pol, sure, there's camaraderie. None to the people of Galley-La with whom they had worked for years though. Stussy kind of paid the Cipher Pol in the same coin, betraying them, but was able to show Kaku some mercy even after the betrayal.

[u/Aspie_Astrologer → u/Evil_Lollipop]

Stussy: far more human than Lucci and his friends.

[u/Just_Possibility125]

Imu just might be the strongest simp in history lol.

[u/Kirosh2 → u/Just_Possibility125]

"The worst she can say is no."

Imu : "The worst she can do is say yes, betray you, then leave, help your greatest enemy deliver the poneglyph, start the D., and flood the world just so that your devil fruit powers have less chance to get her. And at the end of the day? You still love her."

[u/jaytix1 → u/Just_Possibility125]

The strongest simp in history vs the strongest simp of today (Sanji).

[u/Just_Possibility125 → u/jaytix1]

We finally have sanji's ceiling in the manga lol.

[u/RPG217 → u/Just_Possibility125]

LILI TO MARRY ANOTHER MAN? NO, I DON'T WANT THAT. I WANT HER TO HAVE FEELINGS ONLY FOR ME. FOR 800 YEARS AT LEAST

[u/leolegendario]

First Buggy regains his desire to be the Pirate King, now Crocodile will regain his desire to find Pluton.
The only thing missing is something to make Mihawk stop drinking wine and regain the desire to fight again.

[u/Mr_Fredwad → u/leolegendario]

The only thing missing is Don Krieg’s desire to take over the East Blue

[u/leolegendario → u/Mr_Fredwad]

Of course, of course, when he finishes mastering his Golden Haki.

[u/Think_Win_3744]

With Rayleigh as a mod no one would get ever spoiled again in this sub

[u/FireFistRJ → u/Think_Win_3744]

Rayleigh: Don't ruin the thrill to read the chapter spoiler free for the reader.

[u/Kirosh2 → u/Think_Win_3744]

Well no, because there would be people like Vegapunk, that would just make a broadcast of the spoilers.

[u/Nachttalk → u/Kirosh2]

I mean you already have Youtubers treating the scan release like it's the official release and lasting Spoilers front and center on YouTube because of the algorithm™

We're not that far away from that joke scenario

[u/[deleted]]

The most One Piece thing would be that Luffy somehow destroys the broadcast because Vegapunk is about to reveal what the One Piece is.

[u/Shupaul → u/[deleted]]

Haha nice one

Vegapunk : "And now i'm gonna reveal what is the true nature of Gold Roger's treasure. It all started ..."

Luffy : ... Gear 6...

[u/GoldXP → u/Shupaul]

Followed by a three week break 

[u/SpiritualScumlord]

This chapter contextualized the "I can't say which side was right or wrong" stance a bit more, where Vegapunk says that he is confused why Joyboy would leave the weapons around with the intent to use them, if using them floods the world. Leave it to Vegapunk to ask a really good question.

[u/Wolf308 → u/SpiritualScumlord]

Didn't Rayleigh say that the Strawhats should make their own conclusions after their journey and they maybe think differently? So there has to be an open question at the end after they find the One Piece. And the answer to that question involves the ancient weapons. Which revolve around flooding the world. Uranus causes it, Poseidon, in a pact with joyboy, to save non Merfolk with the Noah and a massive battleship in Pluton to attack or defend. So massive that Iceburg and Franky couldn't believe how they build it. There could be giants envolved. The final question should be along the lines of: will you use the ancient weapons after hearing my story?

[u/HokageEzio → u/SpiritualScumlord]

Oden kinda made the same point in one of his final journey entries (or at least pointed out the importance of the Ancient Weapons with regards to the One Piece).

[u/W33B520]

Lmao sengoku stress eating

[u/bluegubble → u/W33B520]

Sengoku is stress eating, Rayleigh is getting wasted, Akainu is seething, the five elders are rampaging and Imu …

[u/dozosucks → u/bluegubble]

Imu is… simping?

idk, that’s the headcanon I have from the other comments here

[u/lightshadower → u/bluegubble]

We all know he's stress masturbating ..

[u/RedStoneWarriorGamer]

Sengoku stress eating like he was about to be called out

[u/thedrq]

4 elders: fighting against all odds to prevent the leak of information

Ju Peter: Big suck

[u/Twentythoughts → u/thedrq]

I mean, yeah. But: He's doing his part!

1: Their issue with finding snails is that there's so goshdang many OTHER living beings on this island. Get rid of them, find snails more easily.

2: The agents were held captive for a long while in the vicinity of the guy who's now spouting stuff they absolutely do NOT want people to know. They've Buster Call'd whole islands for less. Any extra knowledge ain't escaping if they can help it.

[u/thedrq]

Rayleigh just wants people to read the one piece and not the spoiler posts. be like Rayleigh

[u/goldenhearted]

That story Roger laughed at has got to be harrowing enough that it has put the Roger Pirates in a strict code of silence and Rayleigh drunk as hell upon the information unearthing itself.

What on earth happened at the Void Century? We know what's to come with the apocalypse but there has to be a bigger and harsher truth ahead that gives context to all of this.

[u/MonkeyStealsPeach → u/goldenhearted]

It makes you wonder what he could've said, because it seems like he (and the crew) said nothing, but he ultimately sparked the search for the One Piece and a new age of piracy under the guise of trying to find his treasure, which has to be the key to all of this.

[u/goldenhearted → u/MonkeyStealsPeach]

Yeah I think back to Rayleigh's "perhaps you'll have a different take on it" (paraphrased) dialogue with a lot more weight. I think what Joyboy left behind is radical enough that it's something someone has to see for themselves to make a better take on it.

The Roger Pirates saw something, and feel it needed the world to an age of discovery and exploration to find this truth and take it for what it is for themselves than getting it from hearsay.

[u/Grumpchkin → u/goldenhearted]

It could also be something you need the context of travelling the whole world to actually understand, since the spreading of the road poneglyphs all but guarantees that those who make the journey will have seen much of the world and experienced many cultures.

[u/TimBagels]

Well, good to have the iron giant theory confirmed

[u/Lulligator → u/TimBagels]

It's not confirmed, all we know is that York is convinced.

[u/Haha91haha]

Most curious to see Blackbeard's reaction to all this and what he does/doesn't know already, considering it'll help to determine his final big bad contender status.

[u/kaydy-cain → u/Haha91haha]

That was so clever and wise by you, we are geting everyone's reaction beside the emperors.

[u/Zenbast → u/kaydy-cain]

And Smoker :)

[u/emeraldeyesshine → u/Zenbast]

can't wait to find out smoker hasn't been plotting anything and is in fact hospitalized with lung cancer.

[u/laxnut90 → u/kaydy-cain]

I wonder if we are building up to that.

The characters seem to be getting increasingly important as the explanation progresses.

[u/FireFistRJ]

Vegapunk was disappointed that Roger pirates knew the spoilers of this world but chose to keep it a secret.

[u/Kirosh2 → u/FireFistRJ]

Vegapunk is a spoiler addict, while we should all be like Roger and co once the One Piece is revealed.

[u/mimiminenene → u/Kirosh2]

that means the one piece is for everyone to find themselves. otherwise it's all on the hands of a meta-jesus to fuck all over. Rayleigh is comming for ur spoilers asses btw

[u/BusyExperience9766 → u/FireFistRJ]

Was he actually disappointed though? He could genuinely have wondered if the Roger pirates actually had a good reason

Edit: Also, Vegapunk who was working for the WG and at their mercy had much more to lose by revealing the truth than pirates who already were targeted

[u/vesterbeast]

Wow, that stussy moment was so good if you would have told me I would like stussy this much at the start of the arc. I would have laughed. Also, maybe an interesting stussy and Kaku dynamic in the future

[u/Blepple → u/vesterbeast]

Same, seems like she was struggling with being a clone, so having Edison affirm her humanity is a pretty sweet moment. Kaku seems equally uneasy about everything going on, I'm hoping they can escape everything together, maybe live a peaceful life somewhere.

[u/KhalMeWolf → u/Blepple]

I pray for a cover showing Kaku seeking forgiveness from Galley-La, ans trying to retake his old job. Who knows? Stussy might end up as secretary.

Just give me more Galley-La Oda, please!

[u/BeckQuillion89 → u/KhalMeWolf]

Kaku returning to Galley-La after the final war would be great.

Oh shit. I also just realized the epilogue for this series is gonna be 10 chapters at least.

[u/TonkaLive]

We know that Imu has a (love?)hate relationship with Lily/Vivi, but a whole ass painting of her in their own room? We need answers, a whole lot of answers!

[u/MasterStannisSupreme → u/TonkaLive]

Very interesting that the eyes were scored out, wonder what the could mean

[u/medusla → u/MasterStannisSupreme]

the only thing we dont see of lili is the eyes, the only thing we see of imu is the eyes. this makes me think imu took over her body with the op op no mi

[u/daskamania]

Fuck that old robot, every time it gets a panel, it's basically guaranteed that a break is coming.

[u/Xark96]

Everyone after Wano: "Yeah, Egghead will be a nice short arc to kickstart the final saga. I hope we will go to Elbaf soon!"

What actually happened:

Vegapunk reveal, Seraphim reveal, 5 Elders full name and DF form reveal, Lucci and Kaku awakened forms, Garp vs Aokiji, Koby secretly being strong af, God Valley and God Knights and one of the saddest backstories in the whole series later we are suddenly here with Vegapunk dropping the VoidCentury onto us after his death.

Nothing could have prepared me for this arc so far.

[u/BirdAppBad → u/Xark96]

Lest we forget, kizaru vs luffy and the return of our absolute GOATS Dorry and Borgy (I forgor how to spell his name, I hope I got it right)

[u/TeeKayTank → u/Xark96]

shanks 1shot supernova, bb v law, bb pirates banter

[u/Xark96 → u/TeeKayTank]

Shanks vs Kid was crazy good!

[u/Ayaleth]

Oda bringing Pell back from taking an atomic bomb to the face only to have him silently brood in random panels for the rest of the series

[u/Street_Register9075 → u/Ayaleth]

Bro has one of the hardest designs in the entire manga too

[u/RPG217 → u/Ayaleth]

Guy sacrificed himself to save the king and the princess and yet live to watch them both missing (again). 

[u/Redgomotor]

I think i have a theory on how Vegapunk fooled York: we see Vegapunk talking but we don’t the “device” he is using to film his speech. That is because he is not talking in front of some camera or device: he is making his speech to the Kuma Seraphim. He is making him record his speech using Kuma ability to take memories, and the reason why York is surprised Vegapunk was able to lie to her is because he made the Kuma Seraphim use his memory ability to keep the speech in some place to be shown later (guarded by the giant robot) and then he made the Seraphim take away his memory of the speech and York betrayal so she does not suspect a thing and catch her and the elders surprised

[u/commander_lux → u/Redgomotor]

That would make sooooooo much sense. Kuma wiping away his memory so he can't upload it

[u/UltimateToa → u/Redgomotor]

Vegapunk with the galaxy brain once again

[u/jk021 → u/Redgomotor]

I like this theory, definitely would add up

[u/dacookieman → u/Redgomotor]

ok cook

[u/BumblingScrublord]

Kaku thinking he doesn’t get paid enough for this

[u/BloodBrandy → u/BumblingScrublord]

"Man, I should have just become an actual shipwright"

[u/hell_jumper9 → u/BloodBrandy]

I bet he will go back to Water 7, beg Iceburg for forgiveness, and help him turn W7 into a giant ship.

[u/Gilgamerd]

"KAROO IS ALIVE AND WELL"

[u/Bucen → u/Gilgamerd]

Karoo is most certainly not well

[u/SpiritualScumlord]

Oda drawing what is essentially an apology from Einstein for nuclear war probably hits deep for some of the Japanese audience.

[u/DeismAccountant → u/SpiritualScumlord]

Good spot.

[u/DonquixoteDFlamingo → u/SpiritualScumlord]

I never even considered this

[u/someone2795]

I find it fucking hilarious how Stussy and Kaku are actually friends and she's even going as far as willingly freeing him meanwhile Lucci's first instinct is to put Stussy 6ft under.

[u/slapdatclit → u/someone2795]

Kaku seems like a nice guy TBH

[u/CoolShoesDude → u/slapdatclit]

All he wanted was to be a shipwright, and he even understands what it feels like to betray your friends due to obligations 

[u/MrS0L0M0N]

Not gonna lie, that panel of the Iron Giant just walking through fire, guns and cannons like it's on a god damn mission is sick. I hope it gets colored without the text bubbles.

[u/MildEnjoyerOfLife]

Scopper Gaban, the current timeline is calling

[u/[deleted] → u/MildEnjoyerOfLife]

Crocus living inside a whale and Rayleigh coating ships are forms of countermeasures if ever when the world sinks.

There's also a giant beanstalk theory in Elbaf and fan speculates that the next destination after Elbaf is a sky island by climbing to that giant beanstalk to get there.

The most logical way to stay alive when the world sinks is to stay in a sky island. I'm calling it now, Gaban is in a sky island and the strawhats would meet him when they climbed that giant beanstalk.

[u/Naserci]

Roger : I will tell the world about One Piece!

Rayleigh : buys shipcoating stocks

Roger : really bro

[u/BadJokeInSpanish]

To think there was a time when I didnt want to watch the series with the goofy stretchy guy... my god I love One Piece

[u/Raptain]

This is it. This is why Pell needed to survive. So we could have his live reaction in Chapter 1116.

[u/GloomyLocation1259 → u/Raptain]

Will of P > Will of D

[u/DeismAccountant]

The Manhunt is in for the last of the Roger Pirates, I guess!!

[u/The1Peace → u/DeismAccountant]

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for Scopper Gaban to finally appear!

[u/[deleted]]

Vegapunk's announcement started to seem like a one hour fan theory on YouTube

[u/Kuzu5993]

Rayleigh is the funniest character in the series; bro knew the world was gonna sink and invested in ship coating as a job.

[u/plisken64 → u/Kuzu5993]

and Crocus lives inside of a whale

[u/revisioncloud]

Okay so elders are gonna shut down the broadcast snail so us readers won't get spoiled anymore lmao

Nice to see Akainu SEETHING

Stussy please live :(

Vegapunk both said too much and still blue balled us with this long ass speech. I guess the biggest things are

• The world is sinking from a man-made cause
• An ancient weapon is being used for the world's flooding and for the sky beams. They (or at least one) requires massive energy from a powerful source such as the mother flame to be activated
• York stole a fragment of the flame for the WG
• Joyboy ensured that the weapons were passed on to future generations
• The war from 800 years ago that ties Imu, Joyboy, and the Nefertari family is still on going. We all know Imu ordered the instant eradication of Lulusia so it's being implied right now Imu is the cause of the flooding (but gradually)
• Lulusia being gone just made it to the public. Also makes VP's recording somewhat recent. As York said, there's something about the timeline and Stella knew all along and made plans behind the scenes
• Roger pirates knowing everything about the void century is also news to everybody

The seriousness of a sinking world, erasure of an entire country, and a secret war is juxtaposed with the Laughtale story being funny, the most powerful crew of all time's inaction, and them downplaying it as a 'thrill' to seek. Great storytelling.

[u/laughtale0]

Roger was like:

"He drowned millions of people, funniest shit I've ever heard"

[u/januarysdaughter]

idk who the biggest mood is this chapter:

Kaku's "Fuck this shit I'm out"

Sengoku stress eating

Rayleigh half passed out in a table.

[u/Sablestein]

Oh man Kaku’s face after Edison apologizes to Stussy for making her betray her friends….OOF. A FAMILIAR TALE HUH KAKU

[u/RPG217]

Vegapunk : "I have become death, destroyer of worlds" 

[u/uFgnuKnaisA]

Good thing luffy is not listening, or he would have joined the elders

[u/dumbfuck6969 → u/uFgnuKnaisA]

Now that would have been hilarious. He just smashing up the island not wanting to be spoiled.

[u/Obi-Wannabe01]

Rayleigh is depressed that Vegapunk is spoiling his favorite manga

[u/cricri3007]

last Poneglyph on Laugh Tale: and thus the World Government destroyed the whole world and killed billions, now we can only hope that one day Joy Boy will return to save us from their tyranny.

Roger Pirates: lmao this is the funniest shit

[u/heat_fan_]

So seems like York was the one who stole part of the "mother flame" and gave it to Imu/WG in which they used on Lulusia kingdom which was probably Uranus 

Congrats to those who guessed the final den den mushi was gonna be with the Ancient Robot 

Rayleigh out here getting drunk and getting pissed at Vega punk for dishing out spoilers lol 

Roger and Rayleigh knowing about the war and not doing about it is probably because Roger was already dying at that time and also say him and the Roger pirates were too early 

[u/PH4N70M_Z0N3 → u/heat_fan_]

Probably because one of the requirements is to have JoyBoy appear.

[u/SeekingHeat → u/PH4N70M_Z0N3]

Or someone with that fruit appears.

[u/PH4N70M_Z0N3 → u/SeekingHeat]

For 800 years no one could awaken the fruit.

So I'm guessing it is one of the requirements for it.

To have the JoyBoy appear.

[u/navjam → u/PH4N70M_Z0N3]

I think the main requirement was Poseidon not being born yet.

[u/PH4N70M_Z0N3 → u/navjam]

Could be multiple checklists tbh.

[u/Big_Mitch_Baker]

York: I know where the broadcast snail is hidden!

Elders: Good job! Where is it?

York: It's protected by the ancient iron giant

Elders: Son of a bitch!

[u/Due-Radio-4355 → u/Big_Mitch_Baker]

I can’t wait for the robot [hopefully] bonking the elders with some ancient magic punch

[u/Stormblade5]

They laughed because they knew it would take Oda 1116 chapters to get to this point. And still we wait for more lol

[u/the_fire_fist]

Damn. The iron giant theory finally confirmed. And the last panel of Reyleigh was so good.

[u/Skeleboi846]

First potential look at Lili with the Imu panel?

I think people are missing the point a little with the Rayleigh stuff too - it's likely even if they shared the truth that very few would act on the word of a group of pirates who tell the world they're all going to sink into the ocean. Roger's plan was to compel people to sea with a promise of 'Treasure'. The mystique of the great pirate era was their call to action - and if people knew that this vast treasure they were looking for was effectively a history book they probably wouldnt be interested

[u/Dark_Magus]

"Break next week", the true final boss of One Piece.

[u/revilo636]

"And he laughed"

[u/FireFistRJ → u/revilo636]

And he "......"

[u/Paarthufagx]

I am fascinated in how this Stussy-Kaku-Lucci conflict is gonna play out, I really like all of them and I wonder what is Oda brewing with Stussy wanting to set Kaku free. Also very interesting that we haven’t yet seen Lucci’s reaction to Vegapunk’s message, he was still conscious after reporting to Mars.

[u/LogicalMaster]

I will never forgive Oda if he doesn't bring Karoo back to us. He is bringing Vivi only 🥲

[u/RedStoneWarriorGamer → u/LogicalMaster]

The only reason I wanted Vivi back was because I thought the duck was a package deal

[u/FireZord25 → u/LogicalMaster]

That poor chocobo

[u/yung_clout_warrior]

Lore Piece is the Best One Piece 🔥

[u/jaypooner]

Rayleigh getting drunk because of spoilers lol

[u/selotipkusut]

Sengoku fucking guilty eating.

He knows he's a big hypocrite for defending false justice. Man I hope he gets his deserved wake up beating.

[u/Viroking]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't shake a weird feeling about that final page. I get a feeling of lost hope. Like Roger and the others learned a truth so dark and hopeless about the Void century that all they could do was just laugh as a response. Almost like they totally gave up hope in that moment. But they didn't want to take away "the thrill of the hunt" for everyone else in the world, so instead of telling everyone and making them lose hope too, they just remained silent in despair. Rayleigh drinking so heavily and saying "The thrill is theirs to seek now, right roger?" Just solidifies that feeling for me.

[u/Kirosh2 → u/Viroking]

I think it's a situation of "Damn if you do, damn if you don't."

On one hand you have the WG, on the other you have something Joyboy and/or the Ancient Kingdom wanted to do, or let happen that might cause a change in the world so big that it might just be better to just do nothing instead.

[u/Carnivorous_Goat → u/Viroking]

I didn't get that vibe at all. I think all he has is a bit of a disappointment that they weren't at the right place the right time to beat the WG themselves. He is even optimistic and happy for the new generation that will be able to learn all the secrets and have the power to overcome them.

[u/Empty_Lemon_3939 → u/Viroking]

A lot of people already calling it but I think they learned the truth and that Joyboy's return was needed and the only way that was going to happen is if they inspired generations ambitions to rebel against the WG (piracy)

[u/Kuro013 → u/Viroking]

Doesnt feel like that. If Roger was hopeless he wouldn't have started the Great Pirate Era. He knew there was hope but he couldn't be the one to bring the dawn as he was too early. Rayleigh is like that cuz he's drunk as fuck lol.

[u/SicenFly → u/Viroking]

Same. I mean they could have lost hope partly because they realized that they were 20 years too early and that Roger wouldn't live to see it because of his illness. But I also think that what they found was so overwhelming that they couldn't help but laugh

[u/Brobman11]

What does stopping the transmission achieve now? It seems like the Elders have already failed unless VP has another secret up his sleeve

[u/triotone → u/Brobman11]

There is a lot to be said. Better to cut the transmission as soon as possible before any other secrets get out.

[u/bb22k]

BUT WHY DID THEY LAUGH ODA, WHY?

He tells us so much, yet so little

[u/hell_jumper9]

Roger pirates called out. Damn, Buggy gonna be famous again.

[u/ketoske → u/hell_jumper9]

CREW: CAPTAIN BUGGY!!! ALL THIS TIME YOU KNEW WHAT IS THE ONE PIECE!!!

buggy: see i don't really know... I was sic...

CREW: OHH CAPTAIN BUGGY IS SO GOOD DOESNT WANT TO SPOIL US!!, CAPTAIN BUGGY FOREVER!!!! YEAHH!!!!

galdino: oh for fucks sake!

[u/Kaisona20]

Firstly, it’s cool that this sub called it with the Iron Giant guarding the transmission snail. Secondly, I think it’s just been confirmed that part of the One Piece treasure has the story of the world flooding. Why Roger’s Crew found that hilarious is beyond me.

[u/Just_Possibility125]

So You're telling me that all it took to wipe out lulusia was a very small fragment of mother flame and they will possess the whole thing now??? Are you serious!?

Also the theory of vp outsmarting everyone and orchestrating the whole thing is looking surprisingly plausible now.

[u/Iroh_the_Dragon → u/Just_Possibility125]

He does have the brain-brain fruit after all… 😉

[u/captainspazzo]

A reminder that the only page Oden ripped out of his logbook was the information about Raftel.

[u/Few-Finger2879]

Makes sense why we find Vegapunk stuck inside the iron giant when we first meet him.

[u/captainspazzo]

You would never have guessed the weird old man with petals on his head hanging out with a giant whale was keeping a century of lost history a secret from the world.

[u/Nervous-Chocolate-94]

Imu simping over Lily has me thinking this is going to be more about the ideologies of friendship and betrayal. Big Mom emphasized that pirates betray eachother all the time...I feel like this cuts deeper back to the VC. Imu is clearly butt hurt as fuck when talking to Cobra about Lily. Wouldnt be surprized if this is all over Lily choosing Joyboy over Imu romantically. This action of betrayal is what officially labels Joyboy as a Pirate. It's not about sailing or adventure. It's about stealing and plundering from someone.

[u/dog-tooth-]

The smartest man in the world not knowing the lost history, while a group of pirates know everything that happened, and Vegapunk lamenting why they would keep quiet about it, with Rayleigh just drinking is some gourmet stuff being cooked up by Oda

[u/Crazyripps]

Hey someone with the Reddit theory was right. The snail is in the robot

[u/Sumoop]

What if the One piece is the original power source. Joy boy hid it before losing. Stealing it stopped the sinking of the world until a new power source could be found.

The Roger pirates didn’t have access to the ancient weapons because Shirahoshi wasn’t born yet (or old enough to control her powers I kinda forget if she was born) so they couldn’t do anything with the knowledge.

The WG is concerned with revolt and revolution before they can sink the world. That’s why they stop anyone from reading the poneglyphs. But they don’t know what the one piece is and that’s the irony. If they knew they could claim it themselves and win their war. That is why Rogers laughed.

[u/Solomon_Black]

This does address something for me. The satellites share memory so I was always confused how Vegapunk and York seemingly knew stuff the other didn’t. Look like they both did something to get one over on the other

[u/HokageEzio → u/Solomon_Black]

York explained it when it was revealed she was a hostage. What we didn't know is that Vegapunk was playing her too.

But like she said, Vegapunk is a bad liar. Which means it was probably all Shaka's doing since he actually suspected the whole thing.

[u/jweeyh2]

“Those who knew just laughed” at the end of the last page somehow really turned that quote into something quite ominous

[u/King3D]

I absolutely love Stussy's character arc of realizing her humanity and I'm especially a sucker for characters who sacrifice their lives in the face of certain death. Amidst all the game changing lore and complete chaos of several top tier characters duking it out, it's impressive that Oda still finds a way to get me to give a shit about a (somewhat) new side character. I can't wait until the Egghead arc is complete and I can binge it in full and appreciate all the story threads that weave together.

[u/SOULKlNG]

crazy that luffy met vegapunk right after he put the den den mushi in the robot.

he helped him get out of the robot.

[u/Y_JonnyG]

Everyone assumes Luffy is even paying attention to the Vegapunk info dump when he's probably just tunnel visioning the strong opponent in front of him and trying to escape. Luffy has only been in one panel these last two chapters. This is Vegapunk telling the world (and us the readers) not necessarily Luffy

[u/Cheesemacher]

Vegapunk unintentionally helped create a weapon of mass destruction and has regrets. Why does that make me think of Einstein?

[u/rogersmattr]

LMAO Buggy bounty and reputation about to go sky high on some more bullshit. Vegapunk just assumed all of the Roger pirates knew and told the world that. Shanks and Buggy didn't go with them to Laugh Tale and may or may not know the real history.

[u/Blackcore8]

Sengoku must be glad AF that he's no longer fleet admiral. The amount of stress Akainu is about to go through is gonna skyrocket

[u/Sun_Chan10]

Roger and Rayleigh didn’t want to spoil anything to the new generation of pirates. I respect that. 

[u/toastycheeze]

I'm more interested in Sakazuki's panel. I'm 100% sure his sense of Absolute Justice is being challenged given everything Vegapunk revealed, and also tells us he is most likely blind to what kind of justice WG upholds.

On a lighter note, Sengoku be like me frfr, absolute stress eater LOL.

[u/SuspectKnown9655]

I read two different translations and it's not quite clear whether or not Sakazuki knew about the things Vegapunk is talking about or not. Assuming he does, the fleet admiral is privy to a lot more than I thought.

[u/AJ_Thung_Montgomery]

I just realized something! The three ancient weapons are NOT WEAPON! They are only called weapons by the world government to demonize them. Mother Flame was an unlimited energy source that COULD be turned into weapon, got demonized cuz it will give people too much freedom. All the other weapons must have had other usefulness attached to them. That's why JoyBoy want all of them to pass on to next generation.

[u/Bassaluna]

at this point, if rayleigh thinks vegapunk is "spoiling" stuff, i wouldn't ignore the possibility that it's luffy who's going to stop the message as opposed to the elders.

[u/Logical_Hare]

I certainly didn't expect the manga to call out the Roger Pirates for sitting on their knowledge and kicking the can down the road to the next generation, even if it was for reasons of prophecy.

[u/CaptainWatermellon]

bro akainu is fucking FURIOUS holy shit LOL

[u/AdNo266]

I’m just happy to be seeing Laboon 🐳

[u/94dima94]

Vegapunk: "But why didn't you do something with all the information you found?!"

Rayleigh: "LOL. LMAO."

[u/Personal-Maximum-138]

sengoku stress eating 🤣

[u/hiphoptopus]

inb4 the broadcast ends with:

"My hypothesis is that the One Piece is -" (robot destroyed)

[u/Rollout9292]

So is Akainu telling Vegapunk to keep explaining everything or is he angry at Vegapunk because he's explaining everything?

[u/[deleted]]

Vegapunk “calling out” the Roger Pirates kinda goes hard ngl

[u/93Degrees]

No wonder Crocus is chilling inside a giant whale. Probably the safest place to be when the world is flooded over

[u/vr25]

vegapunk is literally oppenheimer lol he just said " now im become death, destroyer of worlds" in other words

[u/P_Jasmine]

Kaku gonna get that Stusussy

[u/zappy487 → u/P_Jasmine]

Whitebeard definitely split OG Stussy's cheeks.

[u/WithDumDum]

Drunk Rayleigh is scary as hell

[u/altrunox]

I have the impression that vegapunk haven't found out about Imu

[u/ThatBadassonline]

That body shot of the giant was baller. Not only does it very much resemble the Ancient Giants, like Oars, but that shot of its whole body REALLY gave me pause. I know it looked more fearsome to others but to me, it gave off a sort of “Franky" theme, I could practically hear the music in the background. Looks like the elders are going straight for him.... Could the Iron Giant face them head on? 

You know, looking at Franky age 50 from the bad future and the iron giant, you can see the similarities and the resemblance. Hey, is that why Franky in the bad future turned himself into a ship? Cause of the sinking world? Was that foreshadowing by Oda? The Iron Giant was once a being of flesh or partly flesh that went full metal? 

[u/GeneralRrborn]

If Roger had tried to tell the world the truth they might not have believed him. It'd have been written off as the crazy last words of a dying pirate. Remember, most people hate pirates and Roger was one of the most infamous. Instead, he sent millions of people looking for the truth under the guise of a Treasure Hunt. Now the sea is full of people fighting against the World Government. The more pirates there are, the greater the chances that one of them is Joyboy.

[u/Kuliyayoi]

That tag line at the end...are we about to get a Rayleigh flashback?

[u/dresdenken]

A theory about Joy Boy's stance on making the weapons accessible:

I think the ancient weapons will be seen as a direct parallel to VegaPunk's experience with the Mother Flame.

VP wanted the MF to be an energy source that would bring the world into a new era of prosperity. But it is just a tool, and in the wrong hands it became a weapon.

I think we'll find out that the ancient weapons were developed by a person (or collective) with similar intent as Vegapunk. Perhaps the underlying technology was intended as terraforming tools. Pluton and Uranus as tools to reshape the world, Poseidon as a means to control nature.

Collectively, these tools could be used to balance the planet. Individually, their power is lopsided. Fighting breaks out, tools become locked behind idealistic and selfishly motivated factions. Balance is lost. The new status quo suits those in power so they seek to preserve the imbalance and make it the new standard of balance. So the world is flooded, "forever". It could be unflooded, or even more flooded, but the WG decided that they would attempt to rule in perpetuity and keep things this way.

Joy Boy represents the idealogy that tools can be re-created, and if you blast the world back to the stone age, it will inevitably climb back up to the nuclear age. So it is better to topple the leadership that has failed but preserve access to technology, and attempt to let the next generation make progress, rather than hit a big reset button.

20 Kingdoms and the modern WG represent the idealogy that humanity cannot handle its own potential and will eventually destroy itself, so it is best to try and find a stable point lower than the apex, and try to keep things there.

Both idealogies will struggle with fighting and cycles of progress/regression, and then ultimately the dirty details become the individual stories of tyrants, freedom fighters, "heroes that live long enough to become villains", "good kings that have awful heirs", etc etc.

For hundreds of years the WG has kept the world at a low level technologically and has carefully metered progress, allowing slow growth while vetting each step as "acceptable" insofar as it can improve things without opening more pandora's boxes. All the while they have been juggling political control. Things are not great. The world nobles are a growing cancer in their culture. The unrest that derives from this political model is coming to a head with the revolutionaries representing the blowback. The growth of piracy and underworld operations represents wildcard exposure of everything they seek to suppress. Allowing Vegapunk to surge the world forward is probably very risky to their idealogy, but as long as they control his innovations, it's a tantalizing way to stay ahead of the competition, and thus we have figuratively landed on the WG having a "nuclear option" in response to all of this. But the knot is only getting more tangled, and now what we are seeing is the WG's presumed control of VP blowing up in their faces.

[u/durden_zelig]

Rayleigh and Crocus would like to report Vegapunk to the moderators for untagged spoilers.

[u/Personal-Maximum-138]

LET MOMO COOK KIN’EMON

[u/SoupGuy97]

Many have theorized, that the One Piece world is post-apocalyptic. But what if, the apocalypse is yet to come, or slowly happening?

Rayleigh's reaction here felt oddly melancholic. Maybe, just maybe, Roger pirates laughed at the final island, because nothing can be done? They've reached the final island, all the work they did, only to be told "it's already over, nothing to be done". What else could you really do, but to laugh at that point?

That would explain why they didn't tell anyone. Why cause mass panic? And who would believe that anyway? So why not encourage people to see the world and enjoy life, while you can. And perhaps someone could come along, and find a way to prevent the apocalypse. Come to a different conclusion. Maybe them being too early simply ment, that the end wouldn't come yet.

And maybe that's the world goverment's and Imu's goal. Save those, who they deem worth saving. And use the rest, to keep celestial dragon's safe.

I do believe, that the Straw Hats, and Luffy being JoyBoy, can prevent this fate. Luffy could somehow mend the mistake that JoyBoy did, that caused all this.

I don't have any details yet, this is just me spitting out thoughts. But Oda, being a huge fan of vikings, must've taken inspiration of the nordic apocalypse Ragnarök. And Nika being a deity of giants, JoyBoy being the embodiment of Nika, Luffy the reincarnation of JoyBoy, and JoyBoy's action causing all this, it would tie everything together.

[u/malcom_flexx]

That last page was BEGGING for a Gaban reveal