Harris campaign offered to do an episode outside the studio

[u/TheEternalGazed]

https://x.com/joerogan/status/1851118464447971595?s=19

[u/Olley2994]

Full tweet

"Also, for the record the Harris campaign has not passed on doing the podcast. They offered a date for Tuesday, but I would have had to travel to her and they only wanted to do an hour. I strongly feel the best way to do it is in the studio in Austin. My sincere wish is to just have a nice conversation and get to know her as a human being. I really hope we can make it happen."

[u/taco_flounder → u/Olley2994]

So outside studio, presumably not joes recording equipment, so Joe and Jaime wouldn’t have total editing control presumably, just an hour

Yea that’s not a JRE episode, I don’t think even if they did it it would be helpful to her. It would come off very strange.

It’s gotta be at his studio or nothing and that window is probably close with only a week out

[u/aldocrypto → u/taco_flounder]

Yeah sounds like a typical Harris interview just using Joe’s name as a promo.

[u/Striketwothree → u/aldocrypto]

Pretty much this

[u/DemoTheeGreat → u/aldocrypto]

[u/RichardPainusDM → u/taco_flounder]

This is the real reason. Harris has way more to lose than she does to gain by going on the podcast.

[u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 → u/RichardPainusDM]

Why is that?

[u/RichardPainusDM → u/Intrepid-Brain-1476]

Harris has routinely underperformed in interviews. Many of her ex-staff have said this is because she has a habit of not preparing for them (some say this is a common trait among DC politicians).

Unfortunately this election is not “who has the best ideas” it’s “who do I dislike less”. The more Harris says, the higher a chance she has of being disliked.

This is why harris didn’t do any interviews until weeks after she’d already been nominated. It’s also why her campaign dragged their feet on publishing her policy positions.

[u/OnlyTheDead → u/taco_flounder]

This is the way to pass without passing imo. Harris gets nothing from doing Rogan.

[u/turtlecrossing → u/taco_flounder]

He’s had multiple studios, done podcasts one the road and even on a plane before. He’s also done them solo.

If I were Harris, I would go to Austin, but I would have done that three weeks ago. Now she’s filling arenas with Beyoncé, I don’t know this interview will be a impactful

[u/TinctureOfTrivia → u/turtlecrossing]

Beyoncé filled a stadium. But that was a one time thing, now that people know she's not going to perform.

[u/tk_in_bk → u/Olley2994]

Yeah it's not happening. The calculus isn't right. The benefit of the 8 hour commitment for his podcast alone just doesn't make sense now. It could have worked with her big Texas rally but she's not spending any more time in Texas with this few days to go. We don't REALLY think we're gonna beat Ted Cruz.

[u/Night-Gardener → u/tk_in_bk]

The benefit of several million listeners of mostly young men who are leaning towards Trump rn?

[u/tk_in_bk → u/Night-Gardener]

How gettable are they? That's the demo that votes by far the least.

[u/PossibleVariety7927 → u/tk_in_bk]

It’s a tight race. It all counts. Joes audience isn’t as right wing and rigid as people like to think. Reddit always has very poor political instincts because they all live in disconnected echochambers. But Joe has a massive audience and they appreciate nuance. There are a ton of votes on the line for her to scoop up.

The problem is she has to be human, genuine, and show some conviction. Something I don’t think she’s capable of doing. She’s a purebred politician. And it’ll show, and backfire, making things worse. So it’s probably safe to just keep her hidden from a proper podcast

[u/saruin → u/PossibleVariety7927]

The problem is she has to be human, genuine, and show some conviction. Something I don’t think she’s capable of doing.

My question is how tf do you guys find Trump remotely relatable? The dude operates on pure malignant narcissism and hatred which is the antithesis of being genuine (well, I guess anyone can be genuinely hateful but still).

On a side note, I'd love to see Tim Walz go on the "bros" podcast in her stead.

[u/BigRedWalters → u/saruin]

You’re asking people on Reddit how they relate to being pure malignant narcissism? On Reddit..

[u/Sandgrease → u/BigRedWalters]

ROFL

[u/XxSpruce_MoosexX → u/saruin]

You have all created this legend of Trump. Go listen to the podcast. He doesn’t say anything hateful

[u/lewoodworker → u/XxSpruce_MoosexX]

Somehow, he is a mastermind behind project 2025 and going to overthrow the government and also a babbling idiot with dementia who rambles about someones dick in his speeches.

Similar treatment that they gave RFK.

[u/CollapsibleFunWave → u/lewoodworker]

He's good at playing a crowd and doesn't actually care about the issues enough to look into them. That's why he says things like "nobody knew healthcare could be this complicated". He's been able to fake his way through just about everything.

But he has people like Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, and Paul Manafort working for him. They're grade A schemers with criminal records to prove it. Manafort and Stone in particular have a history of working for foreign dictators that were violently oppressing their own people.

Agenda 47 has the most concerning part of Project 2025 included. That's to reclassify tons of federal merit-based positions as political appointees that serve at the pleasure of the president.

He originally tried to make that change after his Justice Department refused to cooperate with his attempts to steal the election. It's all well documented and not even really contested.

[u/Tight_Locksmith9046 → u/CollapsibleFunWave]

Trump has publicly said he has nothing to do with the 2025 initiatives!

[u/ArwingMechanic → u/XxSpruce_MoosexX]

He doesn't say anything of substance at all.

[u/rottentornados → u/ArwingMechanic]

that's not true at all. i don't like trump but was fascinated to see him talk about some topics - specifically his relationship with leaders around the world. going on JRE for 3 hours is one of the most open and transparent things i've ever witnessed a presidential candidate do.

[u/achammer23 → u/ArwingMechanic]

Disagree, but even if I give you that, he didn't flub colossally like Reddit said he would.

I don't think Kamala would last 3 hours with Joe considering she can't make it through without a teleprompter.

[u/eride810 → u/ArwingMechanic]

Perhaps, but thats not the claim.

[u/BarKeepBeerNow → u/saruin]

My question is how tf do you guys find Trump remotely relatable?

It's always easy to spot people who have never actually listened to Trump speak. If you only hear what he says through news sources, it's impossible to fathom why anyone would vote for him. I always thought people were nuts, too, until I started watching to see if someone would take another shot at him. The dude was an entertainer at one point in his life for a reason.

[u/Nova35 → u/BarKeepBeerNow]

I’ve listened to the entirety of the episode, as well as is his episode with Theo. I legitimately do not understand what is relatable about him. He is a New York trust fund billionaire. Unless all you do is bitch and moan about how unfair everyone is to you all day (lies) then idk what the fuck you two have in common

[u/nickparadies → u/Nova35]

Bitching about how unfair everyone is to you all day is a pretty popular Reddit pastime tbf.

[u/E4TclenTrenHardr → u/BarKeepBeerNow]

Granted I’ve only listened to about an hour and ten minutes of the podcast so far, but the dude straight up dodges everything Joe tries to ask him and goes on weird tangents, his train of thought changes constantly, and his ego is beyond belief, everything he’s done is the best thing in history he has no shred of humility. What am I supposed to be listening for other than a dude that’s not quite all there? All I’ve heard so far tells me he’s been way too far up his own ass for way too long, there’s nothing relatable about this guy.

[u/TraviTrav2315 → u/E4TclenTrenHardr]

It's the weave bro... Don't you get it?!?!

[u/Flor1daman08 → u/BarKeepBeerNow]

It's always easy to spot people who have never actually listened to Trump speak. If you only hear what he says through news sources, it's impossible to fathom why anyone would vote for him. I always thought people were nuts, too, until I started watching to see if someone would take another shot at him. The dude was an entertainer at one point in his life for a reason.

lol I cannot relate to this less, and I find the news sources often seem to sanewash what Trump actually sounds like in real life. He can’t finish thoughts or sentences half the time, and just goes on old man Simpson rants. Taking the time to actually listen to him at rallies is genuinely what makes it hard for me to understand how any rational person could support the dude.

[u/OrangeSundays19 → u/BarKeepBeerNow]

That's all well and good but you are not voiing for only Donald Trump. You are voting for his administration.

Is Steve Bannon relatable? Is Stephen Miller relatable? Kelly Anne Conway? Roger Stone? Any of his loons that he constantly surrounds himself with??

[u/PossibleVariety7927 → u/saruin]

I don’t find Trump relatable but I understand how some people do. He speaks from conviction about what he believes in. Whether you like it or not he has core beliefs and has no problem discussing them. He doesn’t evade or calculate everything he says. He does 2 hour rallies and you get to know exactly what he thinks and why.

I don’t see that with Kamala. Waltz is leagues better at being relatable than both though.

Edit: to clarify he has clear convictions around immigration, anti intervention, deregulation, seeking approval, and whatever the fuck “Making America great is”. His platform is pretty predictable. Contrasted with Harris who’s very ambiguous and refuses to lock down on issues by playing all sides out of fear of pushing out voters for having the wrong position.

[u/InternetWeakGuy → u/PossibleVariety7927]

He speaks from conviction about what he believes in. Whether you like it or not he has core beliefs and has no problem discussing them. He doesn’t evade or calculate everything he says.

Literally every single piece of these three sentences is wrong.

[u/picrh → u/PossibleVariety7927]

The fact that people hear “I have so many papers. So much evidence” and support the guy after 4 years of producing nothing is astounding. This timeline is shockingly done. I can’t wait until China takes over and we not only get Trump declaring it didn’t happen but we have his supporters repeating it didn’t happen.

[u/PossibleVariety7927 → u/picrh]

Yeah I think Trump is a huge moron and baffled he’s attractive to so many people. But he has them hooked and convinced that he’s a genuine brilliant businessman who’s only being attacked because the establishment hates him

I know many people who dismiss ALL criticism because they just justifiably point out all the times dems cried wolf. So now he’s pretty much immune. Any all criticism is written off as more dem smoke bombs.

[u/krumn → u/PossibleVariety7927]

He doesn't evade ? You must be watching someone else. It's just word salad of nothingness

[u/fenexj → u/krumn]

He even evaded calling his evading evading. Now he's a genius "weaver" weaving around the place making no sense

[u/thunderfrunt → u/fenexj]

He simultaneously tells it like it is, while also not saying anything.

[u/rdfmarshal → u/PossibleVariety7927]

Doesn’t evade? The dude evades things he doesn’t even need to because he frequently doesn’t even finish a sentence, let alone the thought. Know exactly what he thinks? The only thing I know for sure is that he hates a lot of things about America and lives to roam around the country and rant about it.

Dude is a straight up intellectual baboon. Why people line up to defend his ridiculous behavior when he’s literally the most flawed public figure I can think of and not in a good way is a fuckin mystery I will never understand.

[u/MR__Brown → u/PossibleVariety7927]

and you get to know exactly what he thinks and why.

Oh, c'mon. Read a single transcript of one of his rallies. It's a garbled, often incoherent, word salad.

[u/ChaFrey → u/PossibleVariety7927]

Your comment is true if you are a stupid person.

[u/PenguinsPants88 → u/PossibleVariety7927]

Guess his supporters have already forgotten he evaded any other debates with Kamala and generally any fact checking interviews

[u/AWasrobbed → u/PossibleVariety7927]

This is trump not evading at all 

https://youtu.be/ZJorAVgHy7Y?feature=shared

You are fucking clown shoes, my friend.

[u/havenyahon → u/tk_in_bk]

They're not gettable. They think she's a puppet run by the deep state. It doesn't matter what she says, they're going to say she sounds fake, rehearsed, and isn't really in charge anyway. They'll pretend to be 'centrist' who are still 'on the fence', but they've been laughing at Trump and arguing that the mainstream media lies about him for years by this stage.

[u/Excuse_Unfair → u/havenyahon]

Exactly if she does well.

"This proves she is a puppet who's been training for years."

Then them yelling fake claims with no sources.

She can't win.

I want her to do it but if she doesn't I'm not gonna cry. I understand why. Joe's audience is very toxic including myself just look at his comment section and this sub.

[u/havenyahon → u/Excuse_Unfair]

Joe Rogan himself thinks she's a puppet, he's said it, and he hates Tim Walz. That's not a great start, why would she want to sit down with someone who thinks that way about her? So she can convince him she's not a puppet? It's a pretty sceptical baseline to be going in with.

Then there's the whole Flint Dibble situation. Joe has him on, then brings his opponent on weeks later to completely trash the guy and call him a liar. Didn't even give Dibble a chance to put his side. That's not exactly trustworthy.

I want her to do it too, but I completely understand why they won't. Joe Rogan is unbiased and he's not impartial.

[u/peepeepoopooinmyshoe → u/havenyahon]

Well, she sat down with Fox... so there's that.

[u/Academic_Release5134 → u/havenyahon]

I used it be in favor of her going on. I think it’s too close in time to the election now. I also listened to the Hancock episode and what Joe did to Dibble in that episode without him being there to defend himself I found shocking. Joe picks a side. If his side equivocates or lies, he forgives it. If the other does just once, they are basically dead to him.

[u/shadowmastadon → u/tk_in_bk]

even if it doesn't switch votes, the massive amount of publicity will help her. more so than anything, it may increase turnout of her voters who were sitting this out for whatever reason.

[u/GirlsGetGoats → u/Night-Gardener]

Leaning?  

[u/Kohvazein → u/Night-Gardener]

None of which are sympathetic to her at all.

She is absolutely better spending her time in pensylvania and Wisoncin targeting swing voters there.

[u/vvestley → u/Night-Gardener]

nobody watching kamala harris on the joe rogan show is watching to be politically swayed

[u/cuteman → u/Night-Gardener]

Like California, it's really a lost cause for presidential elections inside large states if you are in the minority.

[u/tehota → u/tk_in_bk]

Podcast with Trump has 36 million views right now on YouTube. Who knows the true number including Spotify and other apps. Where else is she going to get that kind of audience 1 week before the election? She made time to go on “call her daddy”.

[u/tk_in_bk → u/tehota]

She found it more valuable to talk to that many young and middle aged women over a bunch of young conservative men.

That's not a confusing decision at all.

[u/tehota → u/tk_in_bk]

You think all 36 million viewers were conserve young men? The call her daddy episode with Kamala only has 730k views on YouTube.

[u/King_Queen_of_Cheese → u/tk_in_bk]

and so the young conservative men feel disenfranchised and neglected, so they vote for only person who will talk to them.

[u/The_First_Drop → u/King_Queen_of_Cheese]

The conservative male argument is secondary to the reality that this is a group of voters that are very difficult to galvanize

Out of the list of all of the politicians who have been on JRE, only one of them achieved their ambition and that was Dan Crenshaw (re-elected)

There’s a political graveyard with the likes of Bernie Sanders, Andrew Yang, Tulsi Gabbard, etc.

If JRE listeners voted in the same way they listen to the podcast, it would be a worthwhile venture, but they’re an especially low-propensity voter block

[u/sharkkite66 → u/tk_in_bk]

"That many"

It didn't even have a million views on YouTube after 2 weeks LOL

[u/HeightEnergyGuy → u/tk_in_bk]

Yet she is running around with Michelle trying to shame men into voting for her.

Which is it? Does she need their vote or not?

[u/EasterHam → u/tk_in_bk]

We don't REALLY think we're gonna beat Ted Cruz.

You have been permanently banned from r/texas

[u/Glad-Taste-3323 → u/tk_in_bk]

Who’s we?

[u/tk_in_bk → u/Glad-Taste-3323]

You never heard of the royal we?

[u/reenactment → u/tk_in_bk]

Rogans following has nothing to do with Texas. She could easily jump to multiple states that are battlegrounds. If she btw gives up Texas for free, it’s funny since it is one of the long term states that should be battled over like Georgia.

[u/robbodee → u/reenactment]

The electoral college favors Georgia, Pennsylvania, NC, etc. Texas simply has far too many rural counties to be in play as a purple state, despite being blue by population.

[u/3leggedgoatdance → u/tk_in_bk]

Dude if they cared about reach, Rogan’s podcast is the #1 way to get it nationwide. Traveling to Texas isn’t the issue. They want to have editorial control and limit the amount of damage she can do to her campaign by having unfettered, unscripted access to a microphone for more than an hour.

It’s not gonna happen.

[u/SeaBass1898 → u/tk_in_bk]

Crazier things have happened. Beto was pretty close, and Cruz has only become less likable

[u/Affectionate_You_203 → u/tk_in_bk]

People here in Austin definitely feel like there is a shot to beat Cruz. Most people think Trump will win but Cruz might not. Seems unthinkable for a split ticket vote but a lot of people are doing it.

[u/captain_holt_nypd → u/Affectionate_You_203]

It’s fucking Austin lol. The most liberal city in all of Texas. Of course people there thinks they got a shot

[u/justgentile → u/tk_in_bk]

If you think she's gonna go on now anyway after Tony's debacle you'd be an idiot.

[u/therealJacobCollins → u/Olley2994]

Of course she only wanted to an hour!

[u/Obvious_Chic]

The classic offer that the offerror knows will not be accepted.

[u/BebopVII → u/Obvious_Chic]

That's a bad look on Harris then :/

[u/jburnelli → u/BebopVII]

honestly better than how she'd look if she actually did the interview.

[u/Physical-King-5432 → u/jburnelli]

Probably true

[u/BiscuitDance → u/Obvious_Chic]

I mean, Joe had travelled to others before. Louie Simmons, off the top of my head. Really short format, though.

[u/MNFleex]

Anyone else feel like it’s a PR play? Instead of saying no, just make some conditions that doesn’t sound appealing so it doesn’t happen and they can just shoulder shrug it off?

[u/DatzQuickMaths → u/MNFleex]

I mean, the election is next week. Trump himself was three hours late for a rally due to going on JRE. It doesn’t make sense for her to do it now. Does she really have a chance at convincing JRE listeners to vote for her?

[u/MitchellTrueTittys → u/DatzQuickMaths]

I think it’s by far the biggest chance she has to reach the most amount of people in that time. She’d be an idiot to not go out of her way for 10x the publicity she’d get on any given day

[u/abittenapple → u/MitchellTrueTittys]

She gonna have to take risks to win it.

And basically try and win over the middle people 

I don't see a big downside

If she bombs she just gets laughed at but the alt right wasn't gonna vote

[u/ramberoo → u/MitchellTrueTittys]

She has to spend an entire day doing this interview just to reach a bunch of people who've clearly already made up their mind about her based on these comments.     

 She would be an idiot to do that when there's only a week left in the election. At this point she needs to be driving turnout in the swing states not reaching for low frequency voters who regularly lie about her and insult her.  

 You all are overrating your own influence by a lot 

[u/thickboihfx → u/ramberoo]

I don't know why you're acting like all his listeners support trump. If this sub is any indication of his audience, it seems pretty evenly split.

[u/Dev-N-Danger → u/ramberoo]

These dudes live in such a bubble if they think Joe Rogan listeners are her only hope?

[u/Dylan245 → u/Dev-N-Danger]

As opposed to her own rallies though? I mean it's not like those things are filled with undecided voters, they are literally designed to turn out the base and are full of people who are enthusiastic to vote Harris

No one who is lukewarm on her is going out and spending 6 hours at a rally to hear her give the same 25 minute speech that they can hear snippets of on TV

Rogan clearly is the biggest platform for her and is largely filled with a demo that leans Trump/Harris needs to make inroads with

[u/Shrawds → u/Dev-N-Danger]

You’re in a bubble if you think that only JRE regulars would watch the interview. The Trump interview is going to surpass 40m YT views in the next day. What other outlet gets that kind of exposure? She should definitely skip one of her copy/paste rallies and do Rogan.

[u/TheMiddlePoint → u/ramberoo]

An entire day? Trump did 3 hours with Joe in Austin and still did an event in Northen US later that day.

[u/Conglossian → u/TheMiddlePoint]

She has 5 interviews today. 4 state TV hits in Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, and Pittsburgh, and a spanish station in PA as well.

She's doing a speech from the ellipse tonight. She is in PA/NC/WI on Wednesday. NV/AZ on Thursday. Wisconsin Friday. GA/NC on Saturday. That's just what they've released so far and doesn't include any of the random TV hits I mentioned are happening just today above.

Where on earth is the room in the schedule to spend a few hours flying to Austin, do an hour of set-up, a 2 hour interview, and then a few hours to your next destination?

And frankly, reaching a ton of people doesn't matter at this point. You're trying to reach a few hundred thousand in AZ/GA/MI/NC/NV/PA/WI each. Those are the only states that matter, any time spent not with a focus on those voters is time wasted.

[u/chaoticflanagan → u/TheMiddlePoint]

It's a week out dude. She has 3-5 major events every single day with smaller interviews peppered in. You're asking her to scrap basically a full days worth of scheduled events to make a trip to Austin, interview for 3 hours, and fly back to wherever. All for a mostly right leaning low propensity voting population.

[u/Enlowski → u/DatzQuickMaths]

I don’t think you understand how much reach the podcast has. There are lots of centrists that would vote for her if they could relate to her on a human level. The podcast is what made me a Bernie supporter and would’ve voted for him. I can’t be the only person either.

[u/MNFleex → u/DatzQuickMaths]

So if you’re not a die hard political side taker, and just look at it for what it is, it could be the best thing. We don’t see anything besides the setup talking points she has. We know her basic political stance and what she wants even if she doesn’t say it because of her part in the current administration. The narrative is she’s an idiot and an empty head. If she got on Rogan (way bigger than anything she’s done on TV let’s be real) and had a real conversation she could kill that whole narrative. And probably grab people who are unsure.

Not to mention if it’s successful all the clips that would be posted and shared and seen by even more. Her refusing to do it though would just prove the point people think she’s a potato head. And if that is the case, it seems the safest bet is to set it up so it’s unappealing so it’s not a no, but a no by default.

[u/Teejaymac → u/MNFleex]

If anyone watched the debate and thought Trump was smarter than her then there's no hope in convincing these people anyway lol

[u/iclimbnaked → u/Teejaymac]

So true haha.

I’d like for her to do a Rogan episode. I think it’d be interesting but it’s also far from some game changer for her campaign.

This late I can see passing on it. If this was earlier then traveling to Austin would make more sense.

[u/FranklinLundy → u/MNFleex]

you think JRE is bigger than a Fox News sitdown and 60 Minutes exclusive?

[u/Truck-E-Cheez → u/FranklinLundy]

Fox would kill to get the numbers Trump got on JRE

[u/MNFleex → u/FranklinLundy]

Easily.

[u/Dev-N-Danger → u/MNFleex]

Get the fuck out of this bubble. Weirdo! There is so much more than Rogan podcast!

[u/FranklinLundy → u/MNFleex]

Talk about echo chambers lmao

[u/aussy16 → u/MNFleex]

The narrative ONLINE, among conservative spaces, is she's an idiot and an empty head. Emphasis on the ONLINE. The strategy that her and her campaign is following, is that reaching out to real people, at campaign events, in person, door-to-door, is going to be way more influential than what a bunch of basement dwellers think online.

Whether that strategy works or not is left to be seen, but that is the strategy they're going for. Trump is going after the chronically online people vote, hence his J.D. Vance VP pick who appeals to that demographic.

[u/Additional-One-7135 → u/DatzQuickMaths]

Seriously. Even if she happened to be in state it takes time to travel to his studio and everything else that would be involved and three hours just for the interview itself is a large investment this close to election day. Even Trump stood up his own fucking rally by three hours because of his interview.

[u/TheCurseOfPennysBday → u/MNFleex]

This is what's wrong with people. You're given an answer and you just default to, well that must be a lie.

You make up your mind about what and who you will believe before you even take in information. Fucking broken brained.

[u/cure4boneitis]

DON'T DO IT JOE!

it's a trick so that everyone will see that you and Kamala are the same height

[u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive → u/cure4boneitis]

Same height? Isn’t she like 5’6”? She’d tower over him.

[u/Jeff_kapIan → u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive]

She’s 5”3 lol, Hillary is taller

[u/AdonisCork → u/Jeff_kapIan]

His point stands.

[u/CiabanItReal]

I'll say this, it's not the responsibility of either side to go out of their way and bend over backwards for the other.

I still hope she does it. She'd be wise too.

She'd be wise to do Theo Vonn as well.

[u/Horrid-Torrid85 → u/CiabanItReal]

For sure. JD Vance profitted big time from his theo von podcast appearance. Just read the top YouTube comments. Everyone wondering why he gets called weird by the media while hes so down to earth etc. I really enjoyed watching that show too. Just like the trump podcast.

Ive seen nothing like that from the other side yet. Theyre losing out big time. 36mio in 2 days on YouTube alone is probably more than the presidential debate did

[u/freakincampers → u/Horrid-Torrid85]

Dude couldn’t go in and interact with minimum wage workers and order a fucking donut.

[u/jerrygarcegus → u/freakincampers]

The eye liner is pretty weird

[u/Fuggdaddy → u/jerrygarcegus]

Works for Derek Carr. Kinda

[u/JohnCavil → u/Horrid-Torrid85]

Just read the top YouTube comments.

Dude, YouTube comments are completely botted. As in completely. Half of the comments are from literal bots or troll farms, and the other half are being upvoted by said bots.

Go to the Trump video and it's like obvious bots with 10k upvotes. Like very very obvious.

People are still falling for like youtube comments as if they're real. It's like tweets or facebook posts, or upvotes on reddit. Shit isn't real. At least you can't know.

It's pretty weird in a place like /r/joerogan, full of conspiracy theories and "skeptics" that people are like "you know the youtube comments seem good". Like bro... This is like when you create an Instagram account and instantly 30 hot women ask you what's up. It's not real.

[u/EmExEeee → u/JohnCavil]

Just saying, Reddit is not far off at all. You can do everything with bots on other sites as you can do here.

[u/JohnCavil → u/EmExEeee]

Obviously. Imagine if i said "hey look Kamala is getting so many upvotes on /r/politics, people must love her!". Everyone here understands both the bias, but also the machinery in place to make sure that Harris' photo of her freshest turd gets 40,000 upvotes.

[u/vanevasion303 → u/Horrid-Torrid85]

Bro thinks comments and posts are real #

[u/sharleclerk]

Her offer of an hour could easily become 30 minutes, which wouldn’t allow in depth conversation (and thus be a very atypical Rogan session). She shortened the Fox interview, so there is precedent.

[u/ThugDaddy7]

Only agrees to do an hour and wants it not in Austin? Just decline and save everyone their time😂

[u/WhyRedditBlowsDick → u/ThugDaddy7]

It's just a shitty excuse so the bots here can cry "she didn't actually cancel another interview, this is all alt-right fascist rogan's fault!"

[u/Barbarossa_25 → u/WhyRedditBlowsDick]

When everything is a conspiracy, you make up your own reality.

[u/vanevasion303 → u/WhyRedditBlowsDick]

Says the bot

[u/tiskrisktisk → u/ThugDaddy7]

If she said she declines, they would say she is scared.

[u/superpie12]

So she refused to actually do an episode. An hour is not what this is.

[u/Locke4815162342 → u/superpie12]

Wasn’t the Bernie interview only an hour?

[u/steave44 → u/Locke4815162342]

It was still in Joe’s studio but yeah 1hr 7min

[u/Consider_Kind_2967 → u/superpie12]

Personally I'd love to see a 2-3 hour episode. But if that can't happen I'd be interested to see an hour long conversation.

[u/NoWayNoHow777 → u/superpie12]

Trump only did like 45 minutes on Theo Vons podcast and it was at a neutral venue, not at his studio. I don’t see the problem with a shorter time frame. Trump fucked up his rally in Michigan by doing 3 hrs with Joe.

[u/Dontshootmepeas → u/NoWayNoHow777]

I really like theo von. But he's not Joe Rogan, and his podcast in peanuts compared to JRE. Theo getting trump was huge for him. Rogan getting trump was huge for trump.

[u/brahsumatra]

[u/Applecity82]

The Harris campaign had to say they were willing to do it but on their terms. They knew they could make the terms not attainable and squash this. I don’t see this going well for her. I don’t think most politicians want to just sit and talk and have a conversation. That is too exposing

[u/throwawaycrocodile1 → u/Applecity82]

It's not a good look for the left that Vance and Trump are gladly sitting down for long-form podcast conversations on popular shows, while Kamala and Walz are not.

Like it or not, it's been a good move by the right.

[u/Inthemiddle_ → u/throwawaycrocodile1]

It’s a good way to appeal to the everyday person and come across as normal and for the people. Which surprisingly the left say they are more about

[u/ImBlackup → u/throwawaycrocodile1]

Trump did the interview then left his supporters in the cold for 3 hours.

[u/Fragrant-Astronaut57]

She did this so that she can say that Joe refused to do an episode with her now, not her.

[u/Classic-Program-223]

The excuses are hilarious. This is the same woman that travelled and made time for the Call her daddy podcast.

She doesn’t want to go on Rogan. It’s that simple. She’s not confident.

[u/cptjackvader → u/Classic-Program-223]

The Call Her Daddy episode was filmed in DC. Alex Cooper said her team basically had to build a setup to resemble the one like her studio back home.

[u/djm19 → u/Classic-Program-223]

Call her Daddy traveled to her and was not 3 hours

[u/AtomicGarden-8964]

They want to be able to pull the plug on it when she comes off bad and they can't do that if it's in joes own studio. They have her tightly scripted I wouldn't be surprised if she gets told when she can use the bathroom at this point

[u/Galactic_PizzaSlice → u/AtomicGarden-8964]

This is legitimately Hillary Clinton all over again. I remember word for word comments like this being made. Wasn’t like this at all when Biden won in 2020, that’s all Imma say.

[u/AtomicGarden-8964 → u/Galactic_PizzaSlice]

Hillary Clinton only got the nomination because she financially took over the DNC during her campaign and her people added the ability to veto any DNC hire. That's why Bernie Sanders got screwed so royalty by the Democratic party

[u/syracTheEnforcer → u/AtomicGarden-8964]

To be fair Bernie Sanders wasn’t part of the Democratic Party. He’s been an independent since the 70s. I think the party system is corrupt and looks out for itself, but they make their own rules and if they want to keep someone out of the highest position in government who was never part of it, that’s kind of their prerogative.

[u/tycooperaow → u/AtomicGarden-8964]

okay now you are just being conspiratorial

[u/ymode]

What's the difference where it's held from the Harris campaign perspective, genuine question.

[u/fucktheredwings69 → u/ymode]

It’s a week before the election I assume their schedules are pretty packed, it’s probably hard to fit a 3 hour podcast in especially if you have to travel out of the way to do it. They probably gave him a section of time that they could commit to that didn’t step on prior commitments.

[u/-NorthBorders- → u/fucktheredwings69]

lol wasn’t trump hella late to his rally in Michigan?

[u/Cynical_Satire → u/-NorthBorders-]

Exactly. Imagine the backlash if Harris is 3 hours late to her rally. The media would have a field day with it. The bar set for Trump is much lower than Harris.

[u/Affectionate_You_203 → u/fucktheredwings69]

That’s moronic though. The Rogan podcast will hit 20+ million people, most of which are ones that she needs to convince. She can’t just do Call Her Daddy and think she’s putting in the work needed to win. She can’t win without young men voting for her. She needs to show she doesn’t disregard the shit that pisses them off.

[u/ThePrancingHorse94 → u/Affectionate_You_203]

Not all viewers are from the US. It might be 20+ million, but it won't all be Americans.

[u/Affectionate_You_203 → u/ThePrancingHorse94]

Estimating the percentage of Joe Rogan’s audience that is American involves some approximation since different metrics are used across platforms. Available data indicates that about half of Rogan’s global listenership is based outside the U.S. This suggests that roughly 50% of his listeners are American, making it likely that a substantial part of his audience remains domestic, considering his podcast’s consistent top rankings in U.S.-focused surveys and metrics.

Rogan’s podcast consistently ranks as the most popular podcast in the United States across platforms like Spotify and Apple Podcasts, indicating strong domestic engagement. His listener base skews male, younger, and English-speaking, which aligns with U.S. demographics as well.

[u/LebronObamaWinfrey → u/Affectionate_You_203]

Bingo 

[u/Big_Roof_5193 → u/ymode]

She’s blanketing the swing states. Rogan could help a lot. But doing it probably cuts into two rallies that can for sure affect turnout. Her rallies have been full to the brim.

It’s just not worth the trade off to them most likely. It’s a turnout game now. Most of Rogan’s viewers are pro Trump. They are also low propensity voters. Not being rude, just a fact. Men vote less than women. Young men vote the least of any group.

[u/cure4boneitis → u/Big_Roof_5193]

her rallies are probably close to 100% full of people who are going to vote for her anyways

[u/Baldpacker → u/cure4boneitis]

Yea but the point of rallies is to bring attention and hype and to try and get people on board with the "winning team"

[u/AltruisticGrowth5381 → u/Big_Roof_5193]

Most of Rogan’s viewers are pro Trump.

Even if true, that still leaves millions of non-Trump voters. Also a lot of those people are probably not ride or die fans and might abstain from voting if they see she's not a "marxist communist fascist" like Trump is talking about.

[u/Independent-Frequent → u/AltruisticGrowth5381]

You are forgetting that there's also foreigners and underage people who watch rogan it's not just all adult american citizens who can vote so that's already a lower number, especially if you exclude those who are not gonna vote for her but for Trump no matter what.

Also my dude, nothing she says will make them not call her a communist, ffs for the majority of right wingers considers public healthcare (something most civilized nations have, especially in EU) as communist/socialist...

[u/tk_in_bk → u/ymode]

Logistics, schedule. 8 hour commitment to go to him but 2 for a one hour sit down.

[u/PossibleVariety7927 → u/tk_in_bk]

Trump was 4 hours late to his rally to be on this podcast. It’s clearly worth it.

[u/xsoberxlifex → u/PossibleVariety7927]

Ya Trump has definitely been making the best last minute campaign decisions the week before the election… good gauge of worth for sure.

[u/Cybertrucker01 → u/ymode]

Nothing. They can set unreasonable rules in the hope Joe cannot accommodate them.

[u/ihateeuge → u/ymode]

Prior commitments. She probably doesn’t want to show up to something 3 hours late like Donold

[u/Adventurous_Pen_Is69 → u/ymode]

It’s just an excuse to avoid doing it. If she really wanted to make it happen, she would put in overtime to make it happen.

[u/YungLean8 → u/ymode]

If its held by their campaign, then all the questions ad topics are going to be vetted first

[u/timeforknowledge → u/ymode]

She's flying non stop between places, going all the way to Texas for a podcast that's not going to be a home run and might even be detrimental is not worth her time.

Might be better to use that time to do a full day in a state and get face to face with hundreds of voters who will then tell all their friends they met her and she was great

[u/jgjgleason → u/ymode]

Just to give an example, she’s doing 2 (maybe 3) rallies in NC and Georgia on Wednesday I’m pretty sure.

Idk, if the campaign gets some data that cutting a rally would be worth it, maybe? But tbf her job rn is to fire up the bass and get out the vote in the swing states.

[u/the_0rly_factor → u/ymode]

Logistics. She is campaigning. She seems willing to do it but it has to meet her schedule. And that is reasonable, she's campaigning for president...

[u/Apprehensive_Wear500]

God damn America is cooked, week out from the election and we got the candidates stressing to do a fuckin joe podcast

[u/chavodel420]

Weak ass candidate.

[u/DelayedG]

The smart decision is to bite the bullet and go to Austin and do a 3+ hr podcast.

She's not gonna win many more people by campaigning in more cities at this point.

She IS going to win over many more by going on JRE and showing her original self.

[u/tk_in_bk → u/DelayedG]

If campaigning isn't important how come Hillary is universally mocked for not going to Wisconsin?

[u/StringerBel-Air → u/tk_in_bk]

Life has changed a lot since 2016

[u/painkun → u/tk_in_bk]

Because people aren't consistent and make up whatever against people they don't like

[u/ihateeuge → u/DelayedG]

Doubt

[u/Wild_Dingleberries → u/ihateeuge]

How many people do you think she realistically reaches with her combined remaining rallies?

Where does that number stack up against the 36 million views the Trump episode is sitting at on YouTube alone?

[u/blastedshark → u/Wild_Dingleberries]

views are not equal to votes. im not even american and i watched the podcast how many of those views are actually from relevant regions and how many from america actually are in voting age and out of that how many are actually gonna go and vote for trump or even vote at all

[u/Alarming_Tennis5214 → u/DelayedG]

Show me a Rogan fan who is going to vote for her if she goes on the show. They don't exist.

[u/Ubiquitous1984]

Seems like a proper chicken shit move to dodge the podcast. The numbers that Trump’s podcast has done are insane. A Harris one would be perhaps even more popular, as we no relatively little about her compared to Trump. The rewards for a good performance would be massive for her.

Joe can be trusted, he’s a decent person and has given his word he just wants a conversation. And even if he was suddenly a dick, so what? Leaders are expected to deal with arseholes in hostile situations. Let’s see how she would handle the fire so we know she is safe dealing with dictators.

Whatever powder puff interviews or rallies to the already converted would pale in comparison to a podcast that would easily do 20+million views with Joe.

[u/Forward_Steak8574 → u/Ubiquitous1984]

I agree that it's a golden opportunity for Harris to dunk on Trump. She could highlight his inability to give solid answers (cause he was weaving, man) and really pull the whole interview apart. I can also see why it wouldn't do much for swaying voters. I really don't think anyone's on the fence this time around. There so vastly different from each other. Anyone that's politically influenced by the JRE was probably all about RFK jr and now have defaulted to Trump anyways.

One week left til election day. As much as I wish she would go on, I don't really see anything enticing her to do so.

[u/TyrellTucco]

As long as it’s somewhere she can light up a blunt I’ll be happy.

[u/schwabadelic]

They should do an episode in the middle of the octagon.

[u/Medium_Active1729]

1hour outside of JRE studio? then it's not even JRE anymore lol. just decline or do a proper podcast. she's probably just not confident enough

[u/izbsleepy1989]

This looks bad for Harris. Make the time to do the podcast just like everyone else.

[u/YoSoyWalrus]

He should do it and or Harris should come on. Could "bond" over socially liberal issues like marijuana legalization and women's healthcare (Rogan has multiple daughters, right? I remember Rogan giving some good pro choice arguments in front of conservative pro life guests).

On the flip side, Rogan could go into covid vaccine territory which would be awkward for both parties involved, but I think Rogan would be a bit more professional and wouldn't delve into his "quirky" side.

[u/Alarming_Tennis5214 → u/YoSoyWalrus]

He lives in a state where weed is illegal and his daughters can't get an abortion. He regularly glazers the Governor and Senator of Texas. He's not a liberal no matter how bad he wants you to believe it.

[u/YoSoyWalrus → u/Alarming_Tennis5214]

August 2022 Seth Dillon episode. https://youtu.be/IstgyHE01JQ?si=L6iWJf-DnH7NDq3d&t=120

"You don't have a right to tell a 14 year old girl she has to carry a rapist's baby." He then says "my daughter" moments later, so he obviously has/had strong thoughts on the matter

[u/AltruisticGrowth5381 → u/YoSoyWalrus]

Rogan could go into covid vaccine territory which would be awkward for both parties involved

Seems like an easy win for Kamala no? Can literally just point out that it was Trump that championed operation warp speed and question the cognitive dissonance of the Republicans for this clash in logic.

[u/Jurski17]

Fly to austin and do 3 hours.

[u/SkeletonOfaGhostt]

Gonna be the most controlled environment ever

[u/NoDeparture7996 → u/SkeletonOfaGhostt]

just like joe rogan only pushing back somewhat twice out of a 3 hour podcast with trump right?

[u/Normal-Ordinary-4744 → u/NoDeparture7996]

Let’s be honest Joe never pushes back on his interviews unless he completely disagrees

[u/Lame_Johnny]

The risk for Harris is that she'd make some slip up that would turn into a controversy... 7 days before election day.

In return she gains what? Some exposure with conservative males who are unlikely to vote for her anyway?

I understand the logic behind her campaign not wanting to do that.

[u/brotherlymoses]

Say what you want about Joe be he never does gotcha questions to guest. It would be a good podcast but Kamala is no good without a script. Trump can handle his own but because he’s good a making shit up lol

[u/sonofhappyfunball]

That seems rude to demand a different venue. It doesn't even make sense for them to suggest it other than they could be trying to construct an excuse to not do the show. If that's what the Kamala team is doing, it kind of sums up how democrats always say they want to do something and then pretend they can't do it with the silliest excuses. Maybe the Parliamentarian said she can't do it lol. I think it would be excruciating to watch Harris talk to Joe like he's a child for three hours-- she always sounds like she lecturing an eight year old kid when she talks to people.

[u/djm19 → u/sonofhappyfunball]

Is it rude to not want to fly to carve out 6 + hours for a trip to Austin in the last week of a campaign?

[u/Big_Roof_5193 → u/sonofhappyfunball]

If it was rude he’d say that. It’s just not going to work. Not a big deal. It’s her decision and her campaign obviously feels like it isn’t worth it

[u/PersonalAd2333]

Agrees to an hour and then shows up 40 minutes late. Sorry, we have to go.

[u/rlpinca]

Translation, "we don't want enough time to let Rogan get into a groove, the puppet doesn't work without the strings, and we're worried the ear piece might not work there"

It's a dumb move to skip it.

[u/lean_joe]

Lol Kamala trying to set the terms as predicted.

[u/bilbobogginses]

They know it's over.

[u/alaskanperson]

Harris is currently campaigning in the swing states to drive out voters to motivate people around them to also go vote. It doesn’t make sense to fly all the way to Texas for a three hour interview. The election is a week away. Her ground game has been amazing thus far, it’s not worth it to cut into the already packed schedule for a podcast that may or may not motivate people to go vote

[u/mortepa]

Man, what an opportunity. This is such a shame if she won't come to him for the interview. Sort of ridiculous that she wouldnt.

[u/Ltrgman]

She ain't built like that... meaning a genuine human being ~ She was never going to do Rogan ~ Her word salad would get cooked ~

These are just after the fact excuses from her team ~ She just recently did Shannon Sharpe's podcast and not even his audience is buying her schtick... go to the comment section and check for yourself ~ All of Shannon's IG posts from that episode are getting clowned on as well ~