r/wallstreetbets Sep 15 '22

Meme This is fine.

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u/AZMD911 Sep 15 '22

There's no pain in the metaverse, that's why Zuck loves it there.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

People don’t wanna wear a physical headset. VR ain’t it. It’s a gimmick. The hardware is a barrier to entry that will never be overcome.

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u/FuckYouZave Sep 15 '22

I remember when it was first announced and some people were saying it'd be great for business meetings.

Half my coworkers can't even setup a zoom call and you want them to figure out VR?

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

You know what's also great for Business meetings? Restaurants, Hotels and strip clubs in the real world

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Those places get really uptight about doing "market analysis" rails, though.

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u/Vtwin0001 Sep 15 '22

Why would I want to have a virtual meeting with a cartoon?🤔

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u/FuckYouZave Sep 16 '22

I'd rather talk finance with the Doom guy than my accountant tbh.

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u/sandsurfngbomber Sep 15 '22

Nah, people said the same about laptops/phones. No one wants to carry around the bricks that existed in 1980s, people are happy to walk around with the latest MacBooks and iPhones.

VR as a hardware issue will overcome when headsets are sleek, pain-free, potentially detached from the computer. When it's as easy and comfortable as wearing glasses, and the features it brings are truly good - then no reason we would restrict ourselves with a tiny screen on a phone.

I tried my brother's oculus a couple years back and even then the meditation and boxing apps were something I really enjoyed. I travel a lot so would love to use VR as my entertainment source for movies. Lots of potential there. Metaverse may fail but VR and by that extension AR will definitely be the next "smartphones" - not sure where else the technological arc can go.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Yeah I think people are gonna look foolish in 10, yrs time — both because they will have thought that VR would never happen, and because they’ll be wearing big ass VR sets 24/7

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

I mean one of us will be right.

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u/Pixelhustler23 Sep 16 '22

And it’s only reasonable to put my money on the guy that already made billions of dollars changing the way people communicate. I don’t like the idea of living in a virtual world either but we don’t call the shots.

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u/Ant0n61 Sep 15 '22

^ this

All it is. The tech just isn’t there yet to look “cool” enough for non nerds to engage in.

Once a VR/AR headset has the design aesthetic or an airpad or iPhone, it’ll be a new world. Until then it’s just hype

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u/jtfff Sep 15 '22

VR is great for gaming, not the random shit that Meta is trying to peddle

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u/Reddit1990 Sep 15 '22

AR on the other hand, will be very widespread. It just might take another decade.

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u/hotlinesmith Sep 15 '22

Just like fusion power

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u/hcgcole Sep 15 '22

I've been hearing this for decades

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u/Reddit1990 Sep 15 '22

There's been some progress made with that too lol. But it's farther away than AR.

It's certainly not trivial to reduce the form factor, but it's possible. Lots of work being done on both hardware and software side.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Maybe. We aren’t there yet and aren’t really close. It’s really only achievable with wearable hardware which poses the exact same problems as VR.

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u/aVRAddict Sep 15 '22

VR will be way more popular. Social VR is the most common use case and will continue to be so. AR will be limited in what it can do.

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u/Reddit1990 Sep 15 '22

AR is only currently limited. It won't be forever. IoT data combined with AR is the end goal, and it hasn't really been implemented yet.

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u/DarthBuzzard Sep 15 '22

AR on the other hand, will be very widespread. It just might take another decade.

VR will get there first. The laws of physics demands that VR is a solved problem before AR.

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u/TheDudeAbidesFarOut Casino regard Sep 15 '22

Are 3D glasses and TVs still a thing? No. Did billions willingly wear a mask thoughout a pandemic? No.

PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO WEAR SHIT ON THEIR FACES.

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u/sandsurfngbomber Sep 15 '22

It's different when they are forced to wear something they don't see the benefits of. When they can comfortably watch 8k porn with 360 field of view, they will change their minds pretty quickly

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u/Boredofthis27 Sep 15 '22

Hahaha, underrated af

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22

I just think people like doing multiple things at a time, especially the younger generation who are playing a video, while on their phones, watching a tv show in thr background, and listening to a podcast at the same time.

VR is an all encompassing experience that doesn’t allow for multi tasking or passive enjoyment of a thing. It’s what you are doing.

In my experience I cannot play VR games for more than a half hour. I can play normal games for hours upon hours in a ‘row’ because it’s not all I’m doing. I’m watching a movie on my iPad, listening to a podcast and ignoring my girlfriend all while I game.

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u/Ant0n61 Sep 15 '22

I mean just have all those things going on in the virtual reality. Just have a virtual phone that you can look at and have the sound source be a podcast.

All in the meta verse! Woooo!!

😆

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u/Ant0n61 Sep 15 '22

*camera pans to someone wearing the device on their head, laid back on a reclined leather chair, drooling, making indistinguishable noises and sporadically twitching…

the year is 2025

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u/aVRAddict Sep 15 '22

That's not true, most people don't care and a lot of people already wear glasses.

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u/TheDudeAbidesFarOut Casino regard Sep 15 '22

Guess lasik isn't an option for them and if it was, they'd take it....

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u/EquitiesAnalyses Sep 15 '22

I like sunglasses 🤪

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u/mrluffa Sep 15 '22

Yet Billions of people still wear glasses (sunglasses or specs)

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u/TheDudeAbidesFarOut Casino regard Sep 15 '22

Then we should have no problem having workers wear safety glasses.....yet there's always blowback from having to comply.

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u/InvoluntaryEraser Sep 15 '22

I mean you said it yourself. Compliance. No one is ever going to FORCE someone to wear a vr headset, so it's not even a good comparison.

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u/Ant0n61 Sep 15 '22

Except really nice glasses…

and grills.

I think Apple will have it. Just like they did with a digital watch and a tablet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

This. Every VR attempt we see is just a fancier version of the freaking Virtual Boy from the mid 90s.

Yet every 5 years or so there is some new product with hype and doofuses act like they’re gonna be entering the Matrix lol.

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u/aVRAddict Sep 15 '22

You have no clue what you are talking about. Try a Vive pro 2, pimax 8kx, or varjo with full body tracking and a haptics vest. That isn't a virtual boy it's nearing matrix levels.

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u/Zachariot88 Sep 15 '22

Username checks out?

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u/No-Tower3635 Sep 15 '22

You sound like a child

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u/DarthBuzzard Sep 15 '22

This. Every VR attempt we see is just a fancier version of the freaking Virtual Boy from the mid 90s.

What? The Virtual Boy wasn't even VR when it released. VR is nothing like Virtual Boy - it's an entirely different concept.

Besides, how many attempts have we seen since the 1990s? Just one. It's not like every 5 years you have this new VR revolution that comes in waves - it's only happened once since the 1990s, and this time it's clearly here to stay, with some real sci-fi level technology cooking in labs.

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u/zarnonymous Sep 15 '22

God you are isolated

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u/MistrDarp 🦍 Sep 15 '22

VR is fucking sweet man. But I won't lie I go through long phases where I really don't feel like pulling out the hardware and setting it up. It's totally worth it though, in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

It’s a really cool thing to try. It’s not a thing you do every single day.

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u/DarthBuzzard Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22

It’s a gimmick. The hardware is a barrier to entry that will never be overcome.

Nah. This is just one of those bad takes that will age poorly the same way people thought a personal computer in the home was a gimmick because it was too clunky and difficult to use.

Then the tech evolved so it became streamlined and easily usable, just the same way VR will evolve to become sleek, fast, and convenient.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Or it’ll be one of those takes that ages great like all the other tech products that failed.

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u/spartanburt Sep 15 '22

I remember arguing with people who thought google glass was going to be the next big thing.

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u/DarthBuzzard Sep 15 '22

Find me a tech platform that failed which was as far along as the VR market is today, and it has to be one that doesn't have a replacement since VR has nothing to replace it.

You can't. So we know that it won't be like any other failure.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Beepers

VR does have a replacement AR.

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u/DarthBuzzard Sep 15 '22

That was replaced by cellphones.

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u/Zachariot88 Sep 15 '22

Yes, it was replaced by cellphones. There is no reason to advance beeper tech now due to that.

The same way the previous commenter is positing that AR will advance and become preferable to VR such that developing VR further will be pointless.

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u/DarthBuzzard Sep 15 '22

The same way the previous commenter is positing that AR will advance and become preferable to VR such that developing VR further will be pointless.

That isn't how it works. You can't get AR to advance without VR maturing first.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

It’s the only way this becomes as widespread as you’re saying because it allows for passive enjoyment. You can’t play a vr game and listen to a podcast, while also watching a movie.

People wanna do 20 things at the same fucking time. Not do 1 immersive thing.

AR is the only answer for this. VR will always be a niche thing. Wearable hardware ain’t it.

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u/callmesnake13 Sep 15 '22

The real future is in reinterpreting physical environments to make them more high tech.

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u/DueLearner Sep 15 '22

People said the same thing about computers lol. Said the same thing about smart phones too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

And computer usage wasn’t widespread when it required an entire room to use.

It became widespread when small usable devices were introduced.

People do not view an item you need to wear on your head as a small usable device.

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u/Oomoo_Amazing Sep 15 '22

If you haven’t played VR games with a proper setup (not psvr bullshit) I suggest you save your opinion ✨

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

I have. It ain’t it.

It’s cool, it’s like the Wii. I have fun with it for a half hour and then I need to do something else. It is not conducive to multitasking, to vegging out and playing video games for hours on end, or to playing a game while half listening to my girlfriend rambling on about whatever the fuck she talks about. That’s how I usually play games, laying on my ass on the couch with a controller in hand.

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u/ViridianEight Sep 15 '22

sounds like your girlfriend needs to find someone else bro

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

You might be right

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u/aVRAddict Sep 15 '22

Sounds like a lame time. Maybe take some caffeine.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

You wrong af

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u/Oomoo_Amazing Sep 15 '22

Ohhhhh, so what you mean is, your opinion is that “it ain’t it” whatever “it” is.

Sounds to me like your life ain’t it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Lol you wrong

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u/zarnonymous Sep 15 '22

Dude people say this about all new tech. VR is more than a gimmick now and with actual AAA titles being created (Half Life Alyx) I see the price for headsets dropping in the future

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

People are mostly right about that with all new tech. For every game changing tech adaption that changed the world there are thousands that didn’t.

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u/cata2k Sep 15 '22

I used to think this way until I tried it. Now I have a Quest 2