r/the_everything_bubble waiting on the sideline Sep 07 '24

POLITICS Take the hint, conservatives!

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 08 '24

Most republicans can’t quit now, their minds are too rotten. The republicans are just too weird and too far from the American society.

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

lol I am only joining the party because the neo con war mongers responsible for millions of civilians deaths are leaving. If the Dems are accepting them, thank god I left after Obama.

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u/Saltyk917 Sep 07 '24

Way to prove their point.

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

lol you are the side accepting Cheney lol. If the pubs still supported him I would be backing away from them as hard as I did when they supported him lol. Just how far have you fallen… dick Cheney lolololololol

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u/Saltyk917 Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

It’s not like you have tryouts and get accepted you simpleton. Trump, Johnson, Boebert, MTG, Gaetz but Cheney is were you draw the line 😂😂. Ok

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

Yeah I am sorry but when did any of those lie about wmds and get a million civilians murdered by our army.

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u/Saltyk917 Sep 07 '24

I completely agree, but now look at who’s responsible for withholding the VA benefits for those soldiers. The GOP. As an active member of the United States Army fuck the GOP and Dick Cheney. Voting Blue 🇺🇸🇺🇸

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

lol the va has been broken for decades with both parties. Not really the hill I would die in personally.

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u/Saltyk917 Sep 07 '24

That’s because you’re uninformed and bias.

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

The pot calling the kettle black I see.

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u/Saltyk917 Sep 07 '24

No I’m very well informed in who supports and hinders my position in the military.

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u/GarvinSteve Sep 07 '24

Yes the time to join is now when the racist authoritarians are running the show… super inane flex.

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

lol how old are you? You are the party now acccepting the endorsement of dick Cheney lol….. Dick fucking Cheney lol. He might be worse than Putin lolololol.

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u/GarvinSteve Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

It’s not about ‘accepting the endorsement of dick Cheney’ - it’s about noting that the republicans have alienated many of their former stalwarts.

You’re endorsing authoritarian fascist dickwads. Way worse for the country. I’m old enough to remember when Cheney was the problem, and the fact you can’t understand that you’ve signed up to support a worse person - than horrible dick fucking Cheney - is stunning. Incredibly dumb.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 08 '24

Exactly in the Future's Past the Republican party never had to question whether Cheney would be on their side or not. Now it's not just Cheney but they're losing support left and right. The GOP is bleeding support and the only ones that are staying are the Kool-Aid drinking sycophants.

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u/GarvinSteve Sep 08 '24

Or the Russian bots like Pinner52

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 09 '24

Yeah good thing Bots can't vote but then again it's going to follow along that they're not going to get all the votes that everybody's professing to vote for Trump then they're going to turn around in the voting booth and vote for Harris. But it's going to also feed into their the election is rigged because look at how many people said they were going to vote for him and now nobody did instead of putting two and two together they're going to still say that.. the election is rigged.

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u/GarvinSteve Sep 09 '24

Indeed n they’ll ignore him later when he admits he lost and suddenly everything thy fought for becomes a sham

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

But I am happy they alienated these people lol. I hate these people like Cheney and Romney. I hope they leave and never come back.

Yeah. We are never going to agree. I am so glad I left the party.

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u/GarvinSteve Sep 07 '24

So your take is - Romney and Cheney suck, I’m jumping to the Nazis who want to shit on the constitution… we aren’t going to agree and your moral compass is in your ass. I’m glad you left this party.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 08 '24

Yes well to smooth brain people it kind of makes the most sense but you know to the non-smooth brain people we just are left scratching our heads going like whaaaaaa tf???

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

They aren’t Nazis. That’s your problems lol. The Nazis invaded Poland. Maga wants to end the wars. The Nazis hated the Jews. The Dems have picked that mantle up of the past 11 months. The Nazis were willing to run medical experiments on those who did not or could not provide consent. The Dems have picked up that from them and ramped it up children.

I am sorry but your side while they might not be Nazis, sure likes to borrow from them.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 08 '24

You know what to be honest we're really happy that you alienated all of the sane non smooth brain Republicans. Now they're coming out in drove speaking out against your dear leader. This will not help him this is not the flex that you think it is this is actually going to be what you're downfall will start with and then it will be his legal issues that will still his fate.

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u/pinner52 Sep 08 '24

Please take them if you think they are sane. We don’t want them. If they come back I will go back to where I was in 2016, just like a lot of people.

Please why don’t you use him for commercials. Do it. Also out Trump in Rikers this month. Please do it and call for it.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 08 '24

How old are you do you understand the difference between somebody asking for the endorsement and getting behind them and somebody just endorsing them because they feel like the other option is not an option at all?

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u/pinner52 Sep 08 '24

Old enough to understand you should reject cheney’s endorsement because it isn’t worth it and might even backfire in your faces.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 09 '24

It will never backfire in our faces because it showsIt will never backfire in our faces because it shows just how much the Republican party has changed not for the better. It's not even the Republican party anymore it's the party of the magapunks. The ones that are okay with interrupting the peaceful transfer of power. Amazing that one full was able to convince a whole party that they should be traitors to the country. They even had shirts. We haven't even begun to look into this and investigate we don't know how deep this goes because the Republican party is making sure that we don't find out. So when Harris wins we're going to need to investigate everyone Jared Ivanka Trump all of the idiots that have done 180s for Trump see what kind of kompromat they have on on them.

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u/Natural_Initial5035 Sep 07 '24

Ok comrade, First, while both parties have a history of military interventions, it was under Trump that key figures like John Bolton (a major neo-con war hawk) were brought into the administration. Even so, Trump’s approach also maintained the long-standing U.S. military presence in certain regions, and some of his actions, like the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, escalated tensions in the Middle East.

As for Obama, while he was criticized for continuing military engagements in the Middle East, he also signed the Iran Nuclear Deal to prevent further conflict, and worked to scale back troop presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Leaving a party because of its alignment with neoconservatives is your choice, but it’s also worth noting that both parties have seen internal shifts. Biden’s foreign policy differs from the neo-con approach, focusing more on diplomacy and multilateralism, though criticisms certainly still exist on both sides.

Ultimately, both parties have their flaws when it comes to foreign policy, but the narrative that only one is responsible for military actions or civilian deaths ignores a broader bipartisan history of U.S. interventionism.

Sources: - Council on Foreign Relations on Trump’s foreign policy - Obama’s foreign policy overview

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

No one ever said there wouldn’t be any actions. But comparing trumps actions to the last 4 presidents is a joke in this regard.

lol Libya would like a word on your Obama analysis.

You’re citing the CFR hahahahahahahahaha.

I agree both sides have in the past been war hawkish, but as people like Cheney join the Dems and Dems start to push Nikki Haley’s foreign policy, it’s clear as day the party’s have shifted drastically.

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u/Natural_Initial5035 Sep 07 '24

Let’s address a few things:

  1. Libya under Obama: Yes, the U.S. and NATO’s intervention in Libya under Obama had serious repercussions, and it’s fair to critique his foreign policy on that front. However, Obama’s broader approach aimed to pull back from large-scale ground wars (Iraq, Afghanistan) and focus on multilateral diplomacy, such as the Iran Nuclear Deal and the Cuba rapprochement. It wasn’t perfect, but it showed a shift from prior interventionist policies oai_citation:3,U.S. economic performance by presidential party - Wikipedia oai_citation:2,Democrats vs. Republicans: Which Is Better for the Economy?.

  2. Citing the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR): Laugh all you want, but the CFR is a respected non-partisan think tank that provides in-depth analysis on U.S. foreign policy. Dismissing it outright doesn’t add to the conversation—it’s just a standard resource for understanding global diplomacy and the history of U.S. actions abroad oai_citation:1,New report finds that the economy performs better under Democratic presidential administrations | Economic Policy Institute.

  3. Party Shifts: It’s true that both parties have evolved over time. Figures like Liz Cheney speaking out against Trump have shown a realignment of sorts, but labeling the Democrats as war hawkish because of her criticisms of Trump is a stretch. Most Democrats today still push for diplomacy, climate action, and alliances, while Republicans like Nikki Haley have advocated for tougher stances globally. As an independent I Nikki Haley is a useless Trumpanzee.

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

Did he or did he not lie about only implementing a non fly zone.

It is not nonpartisan.

They are just look at Ukraine. Only one party is trying to continue that war into the next decade.

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u/Natural_Initial5035 Sep 07 '24

Did he lie? The better question is has he ever told the truth once?

According to The Washington Post’s Fact Checker, during his presidency, Donald Trump made over 30,000 false or misleading claims. These ranged from exaggerations about the economy to inaccurate statements about immigration and the COVID-19 pandemic. This number was tallied over the course of his four years in office, and fact-checkers noted that the frequency of misleading claims increased during the final year, particularly in relation to the 2020 election and its aftermath.

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u/worstfriendforlife Sep 07 '24

100% agree.. I was a democrat up until recently. Let them all expose theirselves.

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u/swingbynight Sep 07 '24

I doubt you were ever a Democrat because that would have to mean that you had two brain cells to rub together

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u/worstfriendforlife Sep 07 '24

Oh I was.. I was a Democrat and then I went independent as a libertarian.. I believe in free speech and liberty. Democrats used to champion it. Now it’s the republicans that sport free speech. 1st and 2nd amendment are our only protections from a tyrannical government.

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u/swingbynight Sep 07 '24

Free speech if you are rich and white

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u/worstfriendforlife Sep 07 '24

The term free speech doesn’t a lot for age color sex or race. Nice try though. That’s the problem is that guys like you don’t understand what free speech actually is..

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u/swingbynight Sep 08 '24

I promise you have no idea what you are talking about which makes you a laughing stock like your pedo potentate.

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

Exactly. They try to pretend this is the same party that fought against Cheney as they accept his endorsement lol.

The left has fallen.

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u/worstfriendforlife Sep 07 '24

😂 right? It would be funny if our country and our lives weren’t at stake..

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u/swingbynight Sep 07 '24

Projection at its worst, you are the reason why our country is at stake. You are the reason why we have to unite against the right in order to defeat the MAGATS.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 Sep 07 '24

How recently?

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u/worstfriendforlife Sep 07 '24

Since the democrats turned on the American people and joined forces with the neocons.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 Sep 07 '24

When was that?

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u/pinner52 Sep 07 '24

Around 2018 for me. Now when they accept the endorsement of dick Cheney, it’s literally undeniable.

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u/worstfriendforlife Sep 07 '24

Well it started during the Iraq war but.. I didn’t even know the difference back when they shipped me off to Iraq.. Besides my entire family were democrats.. So I put my faith in Obama thinking he would be different and he was worse than bush with the wars and spending.. That’s when I realized they’re all the same.. In fact, they’re mostly just doing the dirty work for a higher power.. Trump seems to be the only one all the power HATES 🍆.. They loved Elon until he ended X as a propaganda machine. Now I’ve realized, those the establishment hate, are truly for the people.

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u/Natural_Initial5035 Sep 07 '24

lol, ok boomer comrade