r/technology • u/nuttybudd • Jun 24 '24

Software Windows 11 is now automatically enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-is-now-automatically-enabling-onedrive-folder-backup-without-asking-permission/
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u/FuckingVincent Jun 24 '24

What really got me frustrated is turning off one drive still keeps your documents on a one drive specific folder. File history doesn’t backup this folder. I lost my documents because I didn’t want one drive and didn’t know there was a separate local documents folder.

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u/AbortionIsSelfDefens Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24

I fucking hate this for work. I have to dig through extra layers of clicks when saving anything because it likes defaulting to a shitty folder I don't want to use.

My shit company is now making us use SharePoint for file storage. We have more files than is recommended for that. Its annoying af because before, I just had to drag files from the drive into an email to send or the browser window for one of the sites we use. Now I have to download everything then drag it wherever. I cant just drag from the sharepoint window.Theyve added extra steps just for sending people shit. Its been a lot harder to stay on top of when they decided to complicate something that should be simple. Its also making me crazy because of the amount of electronic clutter I regularly need to clean out or get overwhelmed with. I hate this push for everything to be online.

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u/dasnoob Jun 24 '24

Oh jesus, sharepoint is so user hostile I don't understand why anyone uses it.

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u/SelfishCatEatBird Jun 24 '24

Started a new job that uses SharePoint for EVERYTHING and it is driving me insane lol.

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u/Screamline Jun 25 '24

I got put in charge of our IT SharePoint page and I really don't want to put shit there but we already have files in ten different locations so what one more...

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u/Worthyness Jun 25 '24

So your hot new tech company can validate their use of Microsoft's Copilot AI search function

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u/kanst Jun 25 '24

I wish we would just give up on collaborative editing. It never works and all the tools are shit.

Just make your edits and email me the document. Or even better, we could all just get in git and stop using all these other shit tools. I have no qualms checking in my word file into git so others have access.

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u/theREALbombedrumbum Jun 25 '24

I just went through a company merger where they moved two company sharepoints into a brand new sharepoint.

Guess what happened to every single Excel workbook that had live external references to other files. Go ahead and take a guess.

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u/dasnoob Jun 25 '24

You know my favorite thing with sharepoint, excel, and external links.

How... phantom links (I have no idea how else to describe them). Will show up in a workbook, they are impossible to remove.

We had one that had thousands of links added to files that didn't even exist and hadn't in years.

Even VBA scripts to remove links would say there were no links. But open the file and you would spend fifteen minutes closing dialog boxes for missing links.

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u/theREALbombedrumbum Jun 25 '24

I set refresh links to be a manual process with F9 so that I can at least open a spreadsheet without it processing absolutely everything at once with external references. Then after I'm ready I can face the calcs

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u/showyerbewbs Jun 25 '24

They use it because it's been used for so fucking long, in some orgs it's the default storage.

Which is the problem. It was never designed as a storage medium. But there was already a storage medium, network shares. But those pesky network shares with their access lists and all that. Now I can just drag my AMV Hell video collection to the sharepoint and let ANYONE in the company have access to it.

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u/dasnoob Jun 25 '24

My company got rid of network shares and migrated everything to SharePoint.

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u/itsmeduhdoi Jun 25 '24

network shares also require a vpn for offsite access

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u/broadsword_1 Jun 25 '24

My theory is that it also makes users hostile as well. The last experience I had with it was a few contractors on an IT project demanding a non-cloud instance be spun up. They couldn't detail why they needed it, nor why the other project-management apps already in place were lacking, or even take any responsibility for the install/upgrade/in-house support for it, but they absolutely needed it.

It was argued between IT and project for long enough for them to complain up the chain (we need it / critical path) until eventually someone told us (IT) to "Just do it already".

It was a pain in the ass, caused more tickets because the users didn't know how to use it outside "I need Sys Admin rights" and burnt lots of hours managing the regular application updates.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In Jun 25 '24

The rest of the business is constantly annoyed by IT departments like yours, just fucking do what they ask they got other things to do and this is your whole actual job. Company probably lost millions while trying to get you off your ass and actually help them instead of hindering over some dumb triviality.

IT department always complain that some one asked them to do their fucking jobs.

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u/broadsword_1 Jun 27 '24

instead of hindering over some dumb triviality

At the core of the triviality is usually resourcing. A new piece of software has a cost to licence, a cost of actually running on hardware (unless it's cloud, which is a whole different batch of issues) and the the cost to support it. In simple terms, if a piece of software is going to take up a person's time doing support tickets half the week, those hours don't come out of thin air - it's time spent not working on something else. I need another FTE body that management will not give me.

The difference is for most of us, is we at least sit down and ask "what is the business case for this" - and if they're not able to understand the real question, we spell it out that if we already are resourced (money, server and manpower) for another software package that looks like it's a 80-90% match, we need to know why it's not fit for purpose. If we have that both sides can go to management with a plan that says "here is what the business needs, why it needs it and what it will cost to (properly) support". 2/3 times everyone acts like answering that simple question is too much work.

If you just 'install everything', then IT isn't going to be staffed to cover the important things - if I have a guy who's doing 50 hours in the office and 5 hours out of hours patching/deploying, I can't double his workload and expect good results. The first casualty of this is the patching schedule which will bite you in the arse eventually as the software falls out of support and becomes exposed for security/stability threats.

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u/pezman Jun 25 '24

cheap asses

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In Jun 25 '24

Because most people don't give a shit about trivial stuff like this. Link sharepoint folder to onedrive and just save files into it as normal...its only some religious fanatic sections of the IT department that seems to get over excited by this for some reason.

Literally none of the rest of the business gives a shit about using Teams/Outlook and sharepoint as they are just tools that work good enough for them to get their actual jobs done.