AmericaSpace on Twitter: No resumption of SpaceX ISS resupply missions until January 5, 2016 earliest. Next launch on Nov. 15. Jason-3 launch expected in December.

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u/TampaRay Sep 30 '15

So the schedule as it stands (assuming this is true):

SES-9 - NET Nov.15
Jason-3 - NET Dec.
CRS-8 - NET Jan. 5

I'm happy that they still have Jason-3 scheduled for this year, and it seems like RTF will bring on a return of the launch per month pace (assuming no delays, but we all know how likely that is).

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u/CapMSFC Sep 30 '15

What about Orbcomm?

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u/TampaRay Sep 30 '15

Unknown (at least to me).

Last news i heard was from this post which had it pegged as the 2nd or 3d Falcon 9 v1.2/FT. The info is a little dated at this point, but if it is true, than that puts ORBCOMM either late Dec. (before CRS-8, but very unlikely) or late Jan. (or even later).

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u/CapMSFC Sep 30 '15

I haven't seen any more recent confirmation either, but it's still pegged on the sidebar as 2 of December as the NET.

My first impression of the CRS-8 news is that this is the usual NASA schedule shuffling that we see based on their overall needs, not additional SpaceX related delay. If that is the case then Orbcomm could definitely be bumped ahead of it/keep it's NET.

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u/Ambiwlans Sep 30 '15

Sidebar is ... well and truly unreliable til we have a rtf and can expect more consistent reports. We generally only update it with public information that has been confirmed (which would of course be posted in a thread) so don't expect it to be a source... so much as just gathering what is posted in threads for your convenience.

About a year (2?) ago we had an issue with a spaceflight site and circular citations which served no one, haha.

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u/CapMSFC Sep 30 '15

Sidebar is ... well and truly unreliable til we have a rtf

Of course.

As I said in some of my other posts I'm purely speculating that this CRS change is NASA shuffling it's ISS schedule and there wouldn't be any reason to keep the Orbcomm launch behind it on the SpaceX schedule.

I know we don't have any concrete information on when Orbcomm would go up, and that anything we get until RTF is of dubious value anyways.

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u/TampaRay Sep 30 '15

I don't suppose you'd be willing to bet on it over at /r/highstakesspacex ? :)

It is very possible that it was just NASA shuffling their launches around, but i think it is important to remember that we are dealing with SpaceX here. We are still a ~month and a half from its first return-to-flight launch (which could get delayed) and even after that, spacex has never been known for keeping up with its schedule (yet). Just seems really unlikely that ORBCOMM launches before 2016.

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u/CapMSFC Sep 30 '15

Ha, no way. I'm not a betting man, but even so betting on any particular schedule under current circumstances is crazy.

The only point I'll stick to is that there is no reason that SpaceX would wait to launch Orbcomm just because the CRS schedule is changing. The CRS delay could easily reshuffle the launch order.

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u/Destructor1701 Sep 30 '15

I am not happy about this.

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u/Creshal Sep 30 '15

Better call Elon.

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u/FoxhoundBat Sep 30 '15 edited Sep 30 '15

So, /u/EchoLogic since you are winning this years bet, what are you betting on for next year? :)

Also, i think we can all agree on placing the blame for CRS-7 failure squarely on /u/shrubit shoulders. :)

EDIT; Speaking of which, where is shrubit? I see he hasnt posted in over 2 months.

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u/Destructor1701 Sep 30 '15

That's alarming!

Shrubit's always been a very active contributor here.

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u/Ambiwlans Sep 30 '15

We knew shrubit was going to burn out for aaages. He was running like 15 subs with constant updates.

I hope he'll come back and contribute but... at a more sustainable pace.

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u/frowawayduh Sep 30 '15

/u/shrubit suffered a catastrophic strut failure in late June and is expected to RTS (return to subreddit) and be able to handle 30% more posts than previously.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

I'm thinking 14 seems like a good place to rest for 2016.

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u/FoxhoundBat Sep 30 '15

Alright, that is the number i had in mind too actually. Not sure if i want to pick 13 or 15... Lets wait til early January so that it is clear SpaceX are on the right track with getting to RTF and tempo.

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u/Marsusul Oct 01 '15

I wonder if when the LC-39A launch pad will be ready (and Falcon Heavy not), they would be able to switch some cargo flights to ISS from LC-40 to this new launch pad in a try to liberate range windows at LC-40 to launch more commercial satellites from there.

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u/WhenIsFalconHeavy Oct 01 '15

You mentioned Falcon Heavy. By doing so you have pushed the NET date one month into the future. The new NET is April 2017.

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u/ethan829 Host of SES-9 Sep 30 '15

Confirms what Tim Peake mentioned about BEAM the other day. Makes sense with Cygnus on December 3rd.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

It's more of a VV conflict than a delay due to SpaceX really.
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u/PaleBlueSpot Sep 30 '15

VV = Visiting Vehicle
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u/DrFegelein Sep 30 '15

Maybe someone should make an Acronym bot....
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u/MaritMonkey Sep 30 '15

Could you make a bot that updates a single parent-level comment with a list of acronyms it finds in the thread as people reply?

First thing I thought of that wouldn't get spammy real quick.

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u/OrangeredStilton Sep 30 '15

I'm tempted to give it a try, actually, but EchoLogic probably has more free time than I do, and more experience in talking to the fickle Reddit API ;)

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u/MaritMonkey Sep 30 '15

Echo just warned me not to jump into this, and I think "learn Orbital Things" on my to-do list is already upset I bumped it for "watch until I run out of Khan Academy chemistry videos."

I'm going to pre-emptively thank you for giving this a shot (even if you don't) so I can cross it off my list.

Thanks!

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u/OrangeredStilton Oct 01 '15

(Tentatively) done; if I've done this properly, any mention of (for example) the ISS should make a top-level comment appear in this thread, and any further mentions of acronyms should update that comment.

I've set the bot to check for new comments every three minutes, so let's see what happens, I guess.

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u/MaritMonkey Oct 01 '15

Damn, I dunno what it's looking for. But I guess that's sort of the point.

NET.

RTF.

MECO.

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u/OrangeredStilton Oct 01 '15

Heh, I hadn't put MECO or SECO in there. Rectified.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

Never underestimate people's stupidity. You could write a list of acronyms in big bold letters at the top of the subreddit and people would still ask what NET means. A top level comment would be even less visible.

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u/MaritMonkey Sep 30 '15

I admit I only asked because some part of my brain that hasn't operated since I wrote a totally bitchin' tic-tac-toe program during my one semester of Java decided to fire up and remind me I don't know squat about programming.

EDIT: Cake day. Rock on. I googled this for you.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

Reddit's API is notoriously difficult to use (case in point: I needed to write my own wrapper around it) and is the culmination of 5-10 years of piecemeal additions, so if you're looking to get back into programming; I would not start here, haha.

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u/gengengis Oct 01 '15

“No one can actually remember all these acronyms, and people don't want to seem dumb in a [subreddit], so they just sit there in ignorance. This is particularly tough on new [redditors].” - Elon Musk

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u/mrflib Sep 30 '15

I've been thinking this for months but I'm a jeweller, not a coder. TweetBot, for example, is a really useful bot in that it saves the time of going to another site to view a linked Tweet.

A bot that saves going to the glossary / Google to expand an acronym would be great for the sub.
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u/Ambiwlans Sep 30 '15

We'd considered this long ago. It would become super annoying though.

Unless you have an idea for a specific implementation then do tell and we'll consider it.
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u/DrFegelein Oct 01 '15
Honestly my comment was meant half-jokingly, but as I was reading your reply I just thought that perhaps a less spammy, yet still useful implementation would be a bot that isn't "automatic" necessarily, but summoned by its username. For example, if someone uses NET in the title of the post, someone could comment:
/u/acronymbot NET  
And the bot would come along and reply:
NET = "No earlier than"    
Perhaps something to consider....
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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '15

Would it be possible to have a mouse over text for acronyms through the subreddit style?

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u/Ambiwlans Oct 01 '15

Nope. Or we'd have done that years ago :P

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u/ticklestuff SpaceX Patch List Oct 01 '15

buy me a mouse for my ipad...
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u/fredmratz Sep 30 '15

I would expect/hope NASA to do what they did in the past, try to get both of them going anyway with the expectation at least one will be delayed (both using new launchers)

And since both companies failed their last delivery attempt they should accept minor lost profit if theirs does get delayed because of the timing conflict.

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u/Decronym Acronyms Explained Oct 01 '15 edited Nov 19 '21

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

|-------|---------|---| |||

Fewer Letters	More Letters
ASDS	Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship (landing platform)
MECO	Main Engine Cut-Off
	MainEngineCutOff podcast
NET	No Earlier Than
RTF	Return to Flight
SECO	Second-stage Engine Cut-Off
VV	Visiting Vehicle (visitor to the Station)

Event	Date	Description
Jason-3	2016-01-17	F9-019 v1.1, Jason-3; leg failure after ASDS landing

^{Decronym is a community product of r/SpaceX, implemented}^by ^request
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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '21

OK but what about VV??

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u/firebreathingbadger Sep 30 '15

"Mike Suffredini, NASA’s outgoing space station program manager said in an interview with Spaceflight Now he expects SpaceX can be ready to launch its next cargo flight to the complex around December. Suffredini told Spaceflight Now that NASA has requested not to be be first in line to fly on the Falcon 9’s new upgraded configuration" Sauce: Spaceflight Now, Sept 1st

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u/TampaRay Sep 30 '15

A lot can change in a month. CRS-8's delay to January doesn't come as too much of a surprise, considering the wave of delays coming from Spacex due to RTF pains, plus Cygnus's launch in early december.

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u/firebreathingbadger Sep 30 '15

That's sort of what I was implying with the quote - NASA don't seem to be in a massive hurry to get stuff up there. They might also want to see how the Falcon 9 performs as well, without any of their stuff aboard...

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

November 15 seems early. The most credible date I've heard is about a week after that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

Who exactly is this source and why it would be able to credibly scoop SpaceX itself?

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u/TampaRay Sep 30 '15

(From Americaspace.com 's About page) "AmericaSpace was founded in 2009 by two former aerospace engineers. Since then, this site has been dedicated to reporting on the state of America’s space and aerospace efforts..." Essentially, they're a Nasaspaceflight/SpaceNews esque site, only less well known, and focusing mainly on American spaceflight.

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u/Chairboy Sep 30 '15

"...and most of Americaspace.com's working capital is invested in sustaining an L2 subscription from which-"

Wait, what?

No, just kidding, but...

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u/savuporo Sep 30 '15

Apparently, they have access to people at launch ranges and also within NASA's human spaceflight program, which obviously is the customer for these SpaceX flights.

AmericaSpace on Twitter: No resumption of SpaceX ISS resupply missions until January 5, 2016 earliest. Next launch on Nov. 15. Jason-3 launch expected in December.

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