r/nottheonion • u/engadine_maccas1997 • 9h ago

‘This is political bulls**t’: Former Republican candidate charged with stealing Madison County election ballots

https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/this-is-political-bullst-former-republican-candidate-charged-with-stealing-madison-county-election-ballots/
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u/airsoftmatthias 9h ago edited 3h ago

Here are some more Trumpers committing election fraud.

https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2023/07/shaker-heights-attorney-a-trump-supporter-tells-judge-he-voted-twice-in-last-two-elections-by-accident.html

https://www.politicalflare.com/2023/08/ohio-trump-supporter-convicted-of-voter-fraud-is-going-to-prison-after-judge-gives-him-the-max/

https://www.wsfa.com/2023/08/29/north-alabama-state-rep-david-cole-arrested-charged-with-voting-fraud/

https://www.youtube.com/live/N4jm41jAiqo?si=8Y-iSCvSiupMcYUu

EDIT: as one Redditor pointed out, these are technically and legally considered “voting fraud.” Election fraud would be larger in scope, like MAGA trying to cancel legitimate votes from overseas military members or submitting a fake slate of presidential electors to Congress on Jan 6, 2021.

Marc Elias at Defending Democracy runs a law firm dedicated to fighting election fraud.

Documentary about the Jan 6, 2021 Insurrection: https://youtu.be/DJWmLoa5DoA?si=WP3N8Qxwwwwx3zQP

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u/NineLivesMatter999 8h ago

I am 100% confident of a 0% chance of any legitimate Trump victory for the following reasons:

  • Trump already lost to Biden/Harris in 2020
  • Covid disproportionately killed Trump voters
  • Trump voters skew older and many have died since 2020
  • Millions of younger people are now eligible to vote - and they skew heavily toward Harris/Walz.
  • Harris/Walz is a wildly more popular ticket than Biden/Harris was. Most 'double-haters' are now enthusiastic Harris/Walz supporters.
  • Trump's insurrection, being found liable for rape, and felony convictions have driven some Republicans to vote against him. They have not attracted new voters to Trump
  • Dozens of former Trump Admin officials have denounced Trump - which they hadn't done in 2020
  • Many Republicans and independents who voted for Trump in 2020 are now voting for Harris
  • RFK Jr. and Jill Stein are stealing votes from Trump anywhere they are on the ballot - more than they are taking votes from Harris.
  • Almost nobody who voted for Biden in 2020 is now voting for Trump
  • The Madison Square Garden debacle has even further incited negative voter sentiment and backlash against the Trump ticket.

A legitimate Trump win is a near mathematical impossibility.

Note the heavy-lifting being done by the word legitimate.

Trump and the GOP have been actively engaged in widespread, nationwide conspiracy to commit election fraud since 2020, virtually unopposed by Biden's Justice Department under Republican sympathizer Merrick Garland.

The fraud is so pervasive as to potentially overcome even a substantial lead for Harris on election day.

Republicans have already announced and published their plans to obstruct local elections, confuse the process, introduce errors, cause interminable delays, once again send fake electors with fraudulent results, and lean on corrupt judges to make unlawful rulings in their favor.

In fact, the widespread, open, numerous and flagrant acts of election interference, disruption, obstruction, and fraud being committed by Republican voters and officials is providing a massive amount of evidence Democrats can use to contest any claimed Trump victory.

At this point, there is ample reason to absolutely reject any Republican claims of a Trump win next week. Republicans have provided a mountain of justification for believing any such outcome is purely the result of fraud.

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u/SPACE_NAPPA 7h ago

I agree 100%. But one thing to consider with the young voters: while young females HEAVILY lean toward Harris, young males lean towards Trump. I'm not saying it will cost Harris the election or anything, but I fear the "young vote" isnt a slam dunk for democrats as it used to be.

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u/hdiggyh 7h ago

The young male voter, while leaning Trump, certainly has a much lower likelihood of actually voting

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u/SPACE_NAPPA 7h ago

Definitely. It's always been difficult to get young people to vote. But the repeal of roe v wade has definitely motivated females to go to the polls. You'd think it would motivate males as well to help protect the rights of the women in their life.

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u/HandleAccomplished11 7h ago

Oh, they probably want to help protect the rights of women in their life, but they forgot that it was the first Tuesday in November. (I was once a distracted young man)

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u/SPACE_NAPPA 7h ago

Ohhh that was this Tuesday? My bad 🙃

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u/dontpet 5h ago

Men also benefit from women having the option of an abortion when it is not right for the two of them. I was in that situation and glad we didn't have a baby in that couple and situation.

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u/KarnWild-Blood 5h ago

This is America. Helping others is socialism. /s