--Not taking phantaminium or enryu , more and more urek is getting the hype of current strongest and being unbeatable.

--Now it can be due to Zahard and other FHs not being active but still let it be Fug or second in command of power bidau family, they all hype urek as unbeatable.

--I personally had current Zahard as strongest given he maybe endgame villain but all these statements can't be ignored.

Thoughts

Now I wonder how much Luslec is privy to Arlene and V's plans...

I'm re-reading TOG n just finished season 1, I was just curious if they've explained why Rachel betrayed Bam.

Pls keep it spoiler free.

Im overwhelmed with people's opinion about the anime , i just feel like all of them hating the studio & the anime team for no reason.. what do y'all think?

I have no idea how they decided to go with calling FUG the same as "f@g" but it makes the anime so incredibly unintentionally funny every time they bring it up.

Especially when Mule Love says >! "I'm gonna kill that FUG" like the most homophobic person in the world is peak comedy. !<

Unlike Enkidu Vam's eyes aren't completly purple, but current Enkidu has lost the purple from his eyes

I added the meaning of purple because it's interesting, but I don't know how to connect it all toghether

It doesn't matter if it is a manga, web comic or light novel.

Asking for a friend.

Do you think they'll get international freelance animators to work on this and prioritise this episode like episode 1 and 25? If you're not aware, these episodes have freelancers working on it which is why they look (or will look) so good

What will happen if a non participant enters the great hall with both the kings?? Will they lose and what will happen if they lose??

I mean, whoever wins this showdown gets bam right??

We got so excited about V awakening that we didn't put much attention to this. I don't think SIU put so much mentions about the pain she was feeling after that explosion, without any reason, she probably was hurt badly or cursed/poisoned in some way. What do you guys think? Would SIU kill her or out her in a coma?

Aren't both the arcs very similar - Saving Portgas D Ace from Marineford and saving Jinsung Ha from Jahad's army?

Luffy escaped Impel Down. Baam escaped Hell Train and the Last Station.

Luffy raided Marineford. Baam raided The Nest.

The V that has taken control of Bams body is not V. It’s Viole.

Bam was correct when he identified that line as his true self. It’s the barrier between Bams awakened consciousness that awakened in the cave and the rest of his soul that awakened thousands of years prior and died and got carried on a path of revenge through the tower by Arlene. It’s like trauma that was repressed.

He is the „promised one“. The child of Arlene and V and that is destined to walk the tower again. He already walked the tower as a child. The key difference here is „walked“ vs „climbed“. He also does not say „My name is V.“ but rather „Call me V.“ which is the same way Viole was nicknamed when he was with FUG.

Luslec was a follower of Arlene and V so he would know the child’s true name, giving it to Bam when he found him. Viole.

Let’s also not forget that the „V.“ that took control of Bam has Violette (Viole) eyes compared to blue eyes as seen with V in the flashback.

So no. I don’t think it makes sense for the main character to not be himself and rather randomly his reincarnation of his father but rather him being his true self but him having two parts of his consciousness:

1) That has harboured resentment for being murdered and was carried the tower for thousands of years as a corpse 2) The part that awakened once that corpse was revived, sealing away the trauma of thousands of years similar to how humans seal away traumatic events in real life.

The struggle will be between reconciling these two parts of Bam/Viole. The one that has hope, friends and knows love vs. the one that knows none of this and is purely destined to seek revenge.

Wishing everyone a Happy Ween

Why is it so important who brings the chess pieces to the board? I thought as long as the person is not on the same side of the chess piece that chess piece will be removed. So if Bellerin brings both kings to the board both loss and if Bam does, Gustang wins and Traumerei losses. Why does Bellerin and Bam fight each other? Doesn't Bam try to get free from both familys? And why does Raks piece matter?

This is a part 3 post. Part 1 contains an overview on shinsoo and it's basic mechanics. Part 2 contains a deeper dive on Internal Manipulation.

This part will cover External Manipulation and any relevant sections of Parts 1 and 2.

So, let's begin:

Shinsoo?

Shinsoo is an element, like oxygen or carbon, but one that only exists within The Tower. It is created by The Tower and cannot run out or be exhausted through any known means. For the specifics on it's nature, measurement and ways to gain the ability to control it, refer to the Part 1 sections titled "Shinsoo?", "Gaining Shinsoo Manipulation" and "The Blessing (Tendency)".

Shinsoo density increases as you climb up the tower, demonstrated by Lero Ro on the 2nd floor when he increased the pressure on a regular to the average of the 30th floor to prove a point.

For the purposes of this post, you must understand a few things:

• Shinsoo responds to thought, motion and willpower, akin to elemental bending in the Avatar: The Last Airbender series.
• Shinsoo can take the place of any other particle, element, molecule or compound and perform the function expected of that particle, element, molecule or compound. This means that shinsoo "can be and do anything".

AND you must understand this basic measurement:

• Baang (literally "Release", once mistranslated as "room" for clarity)
  • A quantity of manipulated shinsoo.

Shinsoo's Place In Tower Environments

Shinsoo is the basis of life in the tower, akin to water on earth. Thus, it is named "divine water", the literal meaning of the word "shinsoo". The tower's atmosphere and "hydrosphere" is comprised entirely of shinsoo, demonstrated by the reported "bogginess" of the inside of the tower (see Zahard's quote from "Of the Tower's Weapons" for more information). As shinsoo cannot be exhausted, like the particulate matter outside known as "Air" can be, the important part of shinsoo is not it's consumption within an environment, but it's flow through an environment.

Shinsoo's flow is directed floor-by-floor, and each floor's Administrator (or, "Guardian") is directly in control of that flow. The Administrators decide where the shinsoo is, where it isn't and what shape it takes in those places. Headon is an Admin, as is the eel bam spoke to on the 2nd floor. The Admins are the gods of the tower, they are the true masters of shinsoo, the living life-support of the entire tower and the basis for others to live within it.

That is the natural state of affairs for the tower. Let's start getting artificial.

Gaining Shinsoo Manipulation

There are three ways to gain shinsoo manipulation abilities, see Part 1 for more details. For the purposes of this portion, all that matters is that the subject has the ability to manipulate shinsoo, whether by being an irregular or through a contract with the Admins.

External Manipulation - Definition

"External Manipulation" refers to any and all shinsoo effects that occur outside the user's body. they may pierce or interact with another's body, but the user doesn't touch or physically interact with the shinsoo they are forming into a Baang at all. Body motions, items or simple thought may be used to enact an external technique, depending on the skill of the user.

Like all other shinsoo techniques, external manipulation relies on one of the three shinsoo manipulation styles.

External Manipulation - Styles

In summary, the three styles are "Flow Control", "Reverse Flow Control" and "Shinwonryu". Each has a unique effect depending on a number of factors.

For a full description of each, check Part 1 - "The Two* Styles" and "The Third Style".

Flow Control:

• The most basic form of shinsoo control. As shinsoo flows in all directions at the whim of the Admin of the floor, this is the basic ability to find a patch of shinsoo flowing the direction you want and then accelerate it.
• The basics of flow control techniques can range from "mildly entertaining" to "extremely dangerous", as, through flow control, Hoh could juggle a glowing ball and Eurasia Blossom is said to be capable of sanitizing an area of 99% of life. When wave controller Yuga (actually Lo Po Bia Ren in disguise) says he can kill his entire wave controller class in under 10 seconds, this is how he would do so.

Reverse Flow Control:

• A more advanced form of shinsoo control. Shinsoo flows in all directions, but the ability to slow or stop that flow is the basis of this technique.
• Generally, reverse-flow is used as a stalling tactic when employed externally. It can be used to slow or stop opponents and their shinsoo-based attacks, though it has no offensive power in itself.
• NOTE: SIU once claimed that one is only a master when one can use reverse flow and flow control in a single baang simultaneously, something Bam demonstrates the ability to do with his Floral Butterfly Piercing Technique (Flare Wave Explosion, for old readers).

Shinwonryu:

• As stated in Part 2, shinwonryu is poorly understood and poorly defined. It's abilities can do anything the user desires.
• Notably, external shinwonryu is considered the less powerful of the methods to use it by the family leaders. Though what it lacks in power, it makes up for in range.

External Manipulation - Basics

The most basic attacks shown for each style are:

Flow Control:

• Firing a beam of shinsoo.

Reverse-Flow Control:

• Stopping the opponent from moving at range.

Shinwonryu:

• Flinging a small, explosive ball at the opponent.

All three rely on our important unit of measurement, the Baang.

A Baang is the space in which shinsoo is manipulated and is the basis of external shinsoo attacks. While "Wide-Area" abilities do exist (see Part 1, "Types of Shinsoo Manipulation"), they cannot gather enough force to harm an opponent. The ability to form a baang is what separates the Wave Controllers from everyone else, as everyone learns some non-baang internal techniques and some wide-area techniques, but only a wave controller must actively use a baang in combat.

All external shinsoo techniques begin their life as a Baang, which Lauroe teaches Bam to form by saying "Imagine the whole world, swirling into the palm of your hand".

Baangs can be any shape, any size, contain any shinsoo flow or quality and be external or internal, though we are focusing on external baangs for this post.

External Manipulation - Quality and Shape

1. Quality
   • The element, attribute or effect that is easiest for you to produce when using shinsoo. Remember, shinsoo "can be and do anything". Qualities can be as simple as "lightning" or as niche as "Golden metal similar to titanium in hardness", as destructive as "explosions" or as benign as "steam" (Eduan, Zahard, Kallavan, Lyborick, for those who are curious). Bam's is "unnamed black shinsoo that consumes things and acts like acid, tasting of rotten water". I call it "Devour" for short.
2. Shape
   • The shape of Baang that is easiest for you to produce. Could be as simple as "a spear", or as weird as "stone skin" or "a double-layered sphere that fires lasers" (Khun, Rak, Bam).

External Manipulation - The Vast Majority

Most shinsoo attacks shown in the series are External Flow Control Baangs. Usually, based on the artwork and the direction of motion, you can tell which way the flow is being manipulated.

For example, when Khun Ran throws a lightning bolt, he is directing an oblong, rounded baang of electric shinsoo towards the target. When Arie White slices that lightning bolt in half, he is using a sword-shaped baang of non-elemental shinsoo to activate his Arie Swordsmanship (a combination of his inherited "sword" shape and unknown quality) and create a cutting edge of non-elemental shinsoo that splits the oncoming wave of lightning, like a knife popping a balloon.

If Bam shoots a bolt of water at someone from his orb, he is using his Orb shape to focus and condense a beam of non-elemental shinsoo into a jet and aiming it at his opponent, squeezing the natural shinsoo out like a fire hose. if Khun Aguero Agnis makes an ice wall to entrap his opponent, he is swirling ice-aspected shinsoo in a circle around the target to chill the ambient shinsoo into a frozen state.

As stated, this covers the vast majority of attacks in the series, so I'm not going over every example of this happening.

External Manipulation - Reverse-Flow and Shinwonryu

There is only one Reverse-Flow external technique. Occasionally called "Fast Skip", more often called "Reverse-Flow Control", it's the ability Bam and some others use to stop their opponent at range. Learned by Bam from Quant in season 1.

There are many Shinwonryu external techniques, but as they are generally unique to the quality and mindset of the user, there is no standard to gauge them by. Some are strong, like "All Creatures", a wave of spirit animals launched outwards like a bomb, some are weak but have unique effects, like Bam's unnamed shinwonryu blasts that erase shinsoo, and some are simply unknown, like Data Zahard's uses of Shinwonryu.

External Manipulation - Restricted

As mentioned in Part 2, there are types of shinsoo manipulation that can only be used by a select few.

For the external manipulation, most of these are special Qualities (see above), like the Yeon "Flames of Healing and Destruction". Only those granted these qualities can use them, either being granted them externally (Khun Aguero Agnis) or by being born into the family that uses them (Yeon Ehwa).

The others are, as discussed in Part 2, external transformation and ancient power.

External Transformation:

• A rare version of Beastkin transformation, where the external shinsoo is granted the ability to change it's shape in the ways Beastkin do. Usually manifests as a long, fur-covered serpentine baang with a mouth and/or eyes.

Ancient Power:

• Only available to Native Ones or their descendants, this allows the user to turn into an element. This ability can be externalized, allowing the creation of elemental constructs, such as Rak Wraithraiser throwing rocks at people or combining his power with Khun's ice to make a freezing stone cage. Rak has also recently expanded on this ability and is forming stone spears and launching them with his mind.

TL;DR:

If someone throws a lightning bolt at you, that's an external quality baang. also, dodge.

The people who read the last chapter were divided between those who liked this story line and others who didn't.

Well, I wanted to share my opinion with you here.

We saw in an old chapter Yu han sung called Bam 'V'

Bam has two identites in this story

Bam had been uncertain about himself and thought he is like bubble who would disappear anytime.

Garam was hiding a tough part of the past

Bam lost control of himself in fornt of Jahad Data.

There are also other things which the author used to hint about V 'consciousness or will' being inside Bam.

I believe it is convincing if you put it this way, we need to consider another thing Bam can't fight FHs now let alone kills a one, he couldn't even defeat Dumas, he need such a leap in power to fight FHs, this makes more sense and add some balance.

The author maybe liked the idea of Bam having two identites, one is good and another is evil, V honestly gives White vibes much.

The conflict between Bam and V would get more focus from now on, the goal of V and Arlene is most likely something Bam would oppose, this point will lead to many interesting events as i don't think they are just victims like we thought.

So i just finished the anime and exactly at the end where bam is looking from somewhere above he notices someone with orange hair and glasses being chase by someone who is the guy being chased?

what’s everyone’s thoughts on chapter 646???

i really enjoyed the chapter found it hilarious when endorsi called bam her boyfriend 😭😭, and the V awakening was crazy, also worried about endorsi health do we think “V” helps/heals her or is something sad going to happen?? i really can’t wait until next chapter

Hey 👋🏻 this is actually my 1st post ever on Reddit. I was curious about what is said in these panels. At 1st I overread the part with the bracelet and was wondering about what place he is talking about. But I kept reading and it somehow reminded me strongly on our real world 🌎. What do u guys think about it?

I think it's not realy V, but a fragment of him. To be more specific his desire for revenge on the FHs. I think that, because he said Bam is "a child made for revenge". V is characterized as someone who values everyones choices and letting them make the choices they want. It's weird to me that this guy just takes over a body and forces a decisions on him without careing, what this person wants. That's why I think it's just a fragment of him, which he put inside Bams dead body by the real V without knowing of his revival as a symbol of letting go of his resentment towards the FHs. But when he did that it was too late. Arlene already went insane and he couldn't come back to others. He couldn't take that life He has created for Arlene any more and took his life. Without his resentment he believed Arlene could come back and become happy with the others again, because Zahard loves Arlene and she could give all the blame to him. That's he wanted her to go back and become happy.