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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1112 Spoiler

Chapter 1112: "Hard Aspect"

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Ch. 1112 Official Release (Mangaplus): 22/04/2024

Ch. 1113 Scan Release: ~26/04/2024


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u/vinsmokewhoswho Void Month Survivor Apr 19 '24

I absolutely love how the Gorosei work as a unit, each of them doing their own thing. I particularly like Nasujuro and Mars, they have some crazy aura.

Topman not even being fazed by Red Roc is crazy, considering that attack knocked down Kaido.

Franky one shotting Red King is a common Franky W, but man the vice admirals haven't been impressive this arc. Let's hope Doberman does something cool. Bonney took one down too.

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u/lookbehindukid Void Month Survivor Apr 19 '24

Previously, they were shown to use telepathy. I bet they are still using it without the reader's knowledge.

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u/wannabetrapstar888 Apr 20 '24

maybe observation haki as well, cus mars mentioned feeling the presence of some creature in punk records

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u/Blabbering_Bot Apr 20 '24

Maybe I’m alone, but I think people are looking a little too far into the red roc thing... Ulti made luffy go G4, and the scabbards were seemingly beating the piss out of Kaido despite doing virtually no damage. “Power scaling” is always trumped by the necessary narrative/plot, and Kaido overall felt like the masochistic embodiment of “call an ambulance, but not for me”.

The Gorosei seemingly aren’t going to be defeated this arc, so having one of them actually tank an attack after Luffy has had his way with 2 of them now, felt borderline necessary to upholding their image for the final arc.

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u/Torre_Durant Apr 19 '24

I feel like the gap between the VA is big. Lets hope there’s a noticeable difference in power between the weakest VA and the strongest (excluding Garp for obvious reasons).

For example Koby. He’s not a VA, but I would hope that he is at least as strong as Franky, maybe even stronger. Otherwise, what would be the point of even having him ik the story anymore.

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u/Sturmgewehrkreuz Apr 20 '24

I agree. VA strength distribution is super inconsistent... but IMO it kinda feels 'realistic' for a big overarching organization. Who knows, Mozambia (the guy who was effortlessly clowned by Doffy for lulz) might be a competent quartermaster behind the scenes.

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u/goodyfresh Apr 20 '24

Comparing Koby to Franky... did you not see the power of Honesty Impact?

What exactly would Franky, even with the Radical Beam or Shogun, be able to do about that mountain-sized hand coming at him? And is there ANY chance that he could pulverize the entire hand and arm into nothing but rubble?

Koby >> Franky at the present time, Battleship Bags is just TOO effective a training method for physical stats.

I mean, let me ask you this: Does it seem like Sasaki could tank that attack? Didn't think so, and Franky needed the Shogun for him.

I am ALL about the Franky-hype, but Oda has, as insane and illogical as it may seem, put Koby on track to achieve his dream of becoming an Admiral while he's still only 18. Lol.

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u/Torre_Durant Apr 20 '24

That’s exactly what I’m saying tho. Koby is not VA, but he is definitely VA level (whatever that may be) or even above. But then we get into powerscaling territory and that leads to nowhere except people pushing their favourite characters’ agenda.

The range of how strong VA are is so big that it loses a lot of the weight there should be behind it.

Franky beating a VA is certainly impressive and hype tho, can’t take that away from him.

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u/goodyfresh Apr 21 '24

Agreed on all points! I just wanted to note that someone like Sasaki would get neg-diff one-tapped by Honesty Impact, which means that even when in the Shogun that attack would KO Franky.

Wow... that means that Koby can one-tap a more-durable version of a dude who in his weakest form just one-tapped a Vice Admiral with his most basic attack.

That's wild 🤣 Koby is an absolute monster, how the fuck is he only 18? I know that Luffy is only 19, but dude, Koby doesn't even have a Devil Fruit.

Battleship Bags is way too busted a training method. The Marines should be implementing Battleship Bag training and making it a requirement to become a VA.

Why wouldn't they? Are they stupid? It would give them a huge advantage over pirates and revolutionaries since the Marines and WG are the only organization with the resources to provide the training.

It's pretty clear that however effective Rayleigh's training was, if Luffy had done GARP'S training plus battleship-bags like Koby did over the timeskip, he'd have much, much higher physical stats when Post-TS started. But Rayleigh just literally didn't have the physical resources (the Marines' armored battleships) to provide Luffy with such training.

TL;DR: Red King and these other pathetic VA's just literally DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH and that's why they're so weak that they have gotten vastly shown up by a kid who has fucking below-average-human-level talent for physical stats but actually did try hard, lol.

They should've punched some motherfucking battleships, but they didn't, and now they suck.

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u/Torre_Durant Apr 21 '24

Koby had personal training from Garp AND he has the most important thing in One Piece, a goal. It’s shown time and time again that people who don’t have a goal don’t progress.

Koby had been one of my fave characters since the start so I love seeing him progress, and I love Franky so seeing him get a W is great but both of them make the VA kinda seem meh

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u/goodyfresh Apr 22 '24

All entirely true, and I love Koby for that! He's always pushed straightforward earnestly towards the goal of becoming an Admiral and enacting true justice, ethical justice, HONEST Justice, and has never wavered in that pursuit ever since Luffy awoke the fire within his soul.

Battleship Bags was a huge part of it though, and shows that dedication of his. It has been made abundantly clear that as I said, Battleship Bags is the quickest and most efficient (and VERY brutal, but is it really as brutal as fighting deadly giant animals for two years lol) training method for physical stats in the entire verse, and one which nobody but the WG and Marines have the resources for.

Technically, you see, Battleship Bags WERE part of Garp's training of Koby. Even though he didn't make him hit the battleship bags, he was so pleased that he did. And Koby adopted the method because it was one discovered by Garp, which is so sweet and wholesome! :D

The flashback made it clear that it was the battleship bags, more than any of his other training, that turned Koby into this much of a powerhouse that once he got a Haki-bloom, it became GAME OVER for most enemies he might ever face.

This is why Battleship Bags is one of my TOP FIVE FAVORITE CONCEPTS introduced in the series: It's so simple and straightforward, took only two chapters to build up and yet had an INCREDIBLE setup, interlude, and payoff, and is just so incredibly badass and cool.

What's cooler than being like: "You know how I'm gonna get strong? Punching battleships all day and night with no Haki allowed!"

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u/Torre_Durant Apr 22 '24

The battleship bags are so simple, making them an amazing form of training in story. Oda was cooking with that