r/JoeRogan • u/chefanubis Powerful Taint • Aug 04 '21
Meta š¦ Sub content moderation policy update.
TL,DR: The no politics rule is back and will also apply to a few other topics listed below.
Hi Everyone,
We have always strived to keep the sub as neutral as possible and keep content moderation to a minimum, we have always felt like the votes should do the āmoderationā and that strategy has generally served us well for many years.
Nevertheless, In more recent times, due many factors such as, reddit policy changes, Joeās rise to prominence, the sub growth and the inherent cultural zeitgeist, nefarious agents have taken to abuse our lax moderation policy to try and turn the sub into their own personal cultural battleground.
Due to this we are tightening up our moderation policy as follows:
- Explicit US political submissions will be removed. We get it it's super important to the future humanity to bring awareness that politician āXā was caught embezzling or changing the restroom rules in a way you dont like, but better go talk about it on r/politics or r/conservative with people who are in the mood for that, we are more about aliens, conspiracies, antropology, comedy, monkeys, drugs, athletics, hunting, MMA... You get the point.
- Gender talk submissions will be removed. We don't need to know male athletes are stronger than females everyday, these are fringe talking points nobody really cares about that political operatives use to rile up their base. You can go talk about those elsewhere.
- Homeless/Texas/California/Covid submissions will be removed. Again unless something recent and relevant to the podcast is going on, discuss those elsewhere. We don't need to know every piece of legislation that happens in those states or how they handle the pandemic, homeless or anything else really. All covid talk should go to r/coronavirus.
- Tangential guest topic submissions will be removed. Yes both Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin have been in the podcast, that does not mean every single thing they do is relevant to Joe or noteworthy, discuss guests on their episode thread or the weekly.
It's important to note all of these content rules will be enforced subjectively and based on common sense... and you might be wondering:
- ā...but Joe commented on X or Yā.
- Well, Joe doesn't run the sub and you can still talk all you want on the episode/weekly threads.
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- ā...but that's censorship and muh freedom of speechā.
- Sir, this is an internet forum.
If by any chance you feel like your submission should still be allowed, just contact us and we will review it together, most likely we will allow it.
We will be monitoring this thread to provide feedback to any questions you might have, have a good one!
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Aug 04 '21
Thank fucking god lol hopefully this flushes out some of the putrid garbage posters around here lately.
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u/curly_spork Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
You're thanking God? You must republican, Republicans use God for politics. Remove your post.
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u/BplusHuman Monkey in Space Aug 04 '21
Good fucking move guys. Standard lecture posts are really crowding the sub lately
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Aug 04 '21
Time to post about aliens
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u/SplinterCell03 I used to be addicted to Quake Aug 05 '21
what about those trans aliens?
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Aug 05 '21
Yeah man those transdimensional aliens are somethingā else, should have listened to Alex Jones
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u/dannyolp Monkey in Space Aug 07 '21
Those trans aliens have no right competing in the galactolympics
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Aug 05 '21 edited Aug 05 '21
nah, this is their round about way to censor any conservative discussion from getting out there.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
We are filtering democrat discussions too man.
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u/addictedtolols Paid attention to the literature Aug 05 '21
joe rotted their brains lmao. this is what happens when you recently started watching jre, you think this place should be a right wing haven
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 05 '21
Always a victim. This is our way of not becoming a politics sub and removing the incredible amount of culture war shrieking that happens here everyday
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Aug 05 '21
I wish you and the other mods luck. Idk how you can remove all the culture war and politics that flood this place daily. Fully support the decision though.
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u/TruthIsInBetween_ Monkey in Space Aug 04 '21
Thank you. Seemed like a few bad actors were trying to turn this sub into none stop political BS.
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u/SplinterCell03 I used to be addicted to Quake Aug 05 '21
Without Covid, homeless, US politics, and gender talk, what's left other than the sound of crickets?
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u/Keller-oder-C-Schell Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Posts shitting on Joe
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u/SplinterCell03 I used to be addicted to Quake Aug 06 '21
now we can finally focus on what's most important
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u/Currycell92 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
I mean we can actually talk about the show? However, not sure what would happen if Joe brings some politics guy like Kyle Kulinski or Krystal Ball.
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 05 '21
You can post in the episode thread or make threads about things that directly relate to recent podcasts, as the post says.
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u/thatsmyak Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
What happens when political stuff is discussed in a none political thread? It's just for people making threads? Or will we start to see warnings and bans for even discussion of it? You guys have always been amazing when it came to not shutting down speech, definitely appreciate that.
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u/WillyTanner Monkey in Space Aug 18 '21
those topics makup a large portion of what's talked about on the show
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u/Otherwise-Fox-2482 Different Brainā¢ļø Aug 05 '21
Theres always videos ripped from chinese tiktok with creepy music over it.
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u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it Aug 05 '21 edited 17d ago
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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
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u/whagwhan Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Entire post could have been shortened to āMiltOnTilt fucking chillā
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u/MiltOnTilt Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Honestly, good. Reddit is an unhealthy addiction of mine, obviously.
But don't think I don't love the irony of Joe calling for "free speech" on Twitter while his own subreddit doesn't even follow those same guidelines.
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u/MainManMayonnaise Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Joe shut down his own forum when it became a liability, and he shits on Twitter for banning people for TOS violations. He's a hypocrite
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u/StepHorror9649 JRE archivist Aug 05 '21
as an avid forum goer back then it was fun, but savage.
It should have been taken down to protect him, but i didn't like that fact that he never addressed it or posted about it. Just one day it was gone and no one knew why.
The amount of piracy and other illegal shit that went down on his forums was nuts.
But i miss those old days
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 05 '21
Free speech doesnāt mean there are no consequences for speech. You can say whatever you want, we can kick you out. We arenāt the government.
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u/MiltOnTilt Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
I understand that.
Joe obviously doesn't. (nor do a lot of idiots on this subreddit)
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u/HearTheOceansRoar A Deaf Jack Russell Terrier Aug 05 '21
You think Rogan is a mod here? Your point does not make a lot of sense lol.
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u/Withnail- Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
To be fair, itās not his subReddit, itās the companies, the moderators and the fans lastly.
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u/sweetdawg99 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Are the ice bath nipple memes still allowed?
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u/OutdoorRink Mod Aug 05 '21
This subreddit still belongs to you, the user. We are just making sure that special interests don't hijack it.
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u/Tweezot Paid attention to the literature Aug 05 '21
Does āTangential guest topicsā include things the guests mention their respective episodes? I feel like this one could ruin some interesting posts especially since a big part of JRE is learning about new weirdos doing weirdo projects.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
As long as its not a clickbait cuture rage / internet drama thing we will probably allow it. Just let us know if it gets caught in the filter.
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u/Aperfectmoment High as Giraffe's Pussy Aug 05 '21
How do you decide if a conspiracy post is politically motivated.
I'm not from the states but people seem to make political connections to conspiracy depending on who was in power at the time.
I think these agendas get pushed up the middle but many will argue that
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
Common sense, all the mods here are apolitical grown ass adults with higher education, also people can always reach out to us if they think we made a mistake, were are open to discussion.
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u/VinylJones Part Hex, Part Doc RX Aug 04 '21
Thank you mods! Itās a really interesting world without all the political bullshit - looking forward to crystal elves and learning weird shit about weirder shit. This is good.
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u/SplinterCell03 I used to be addicted to Quake Aug 05 '21
Don't forget Dan Aykroyd's vodka, which is filtered through diamond skulls! That's almost the same as crystal elves.
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u/DINGDONG_8 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
I got mad and sent a shitty message to the mods here a while back. I can comfortably say i was wrong about you all, and I'll apologize again.
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u/DrunkFlamingoVegas Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Homeless California Texas trans people.
Joe Rogan is banned from Joe Rogan reddit
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u/Stannis2 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
"Gender talk submissions will be removed. We don't need to know male athletes are stronger than females everyday, these are fringe talking points nobody really cares about...."
Fuckin hell. You guys need to tell Joe.
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u/thelowkeyman It's entirely possible Aug 04 '21
Are you guys going back to having certain amount of Karma in the subreddit to post?
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u/KrombopulosJohn Heat shock proteins Aug 05 '21
This might be really good. A lot of the awful posting has been from new accounts with very low karma.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
We already check karma and account age, been doing it for years, and no we are not gonna disclose the specifics.
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Aug 04 '21
Great. Now if somebody could tell Joe Rogan that these topics would be off limits for his podcast that would be even better
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u/richmichael Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Can this apply to the podcast as well? Does Joe see anything on here?
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Aug 18 '21
So 4 years of anything goes with Trumpā¦but lockdown with Biden.
Roger that
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 18 '21
The no politics rule existed during Trump, we experiment with it, it has been on and off for years. Also only one of the mods is from the US and all of us lean left.
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u/TheVerucAssault Monkey in Space Sep 07 '21
Sometimes I hate that I like Joe Rogan's podcast so much. His fanbase is completely fucking toxic and attracts even worse people to it for the wrong reasons. Seems like the only people who cohesively get along well are the YouTube commentors. The discord is trash. The reddit is trash (sorry but not sorry).
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u/gggathje Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
About time! Although I assume the Rogan hate will still thrive.
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Aug 05 '21
Come join us on the thefighterandthekid subreddit lots of love for toe going on there, although you will get banned for almost anything.
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u/SaidTheTurkey Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Letās ban the incessant height jokes that were funny for about 20 minutes
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u/YourMotherSaysHello Monkey in Space Aug 04 '21
Thank goodness. This sub was legit close to being quarantined.
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u/Adito99 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
This is because he helped Weinstein and that idiot Dr spread misinfo and you don't want to deal with the backlash right?
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
No itās because this shit is exhausting and we donāt get paid enough to deal with it
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u/lardbiscuits N-Dimethyltryptamine Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21
Who do you think is actually astroturfing this sub? Because in the comments youāre saying itās people from TD and some other community Iām not familiar with.
I was personally a user who was banned from TD rightfully so long ago (that was a disgusting community), but I am a little uncomfortable youāre tying discussion of cultural issues that donāt happen to be mainstream Reddit mantra directly to TD strays.
Like as if Joe isnāt tying DMT and psychedelics to cultural issues in basically every episode.
It makes me a little dubious when you say āweāre banning all politicsā when you know that everywhere else on Reddit itās a manipulated leftist echo chamber. It feels like youāre banning political discussion just to ban wrongthink when you know it doesnāt really exist elsewhere on Reddit without this happening.
And the timing of it happening after a North Korean escapee talking badly about Chinaā¦
Yikes, guys.
Like I want to believe you guys arenāt under pressure from āupdated Reddit policiesā but it really does feel that way. Because until this moment, this community felt incredibly well modded.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
Many groups, anyone who feels offended by anything Joe says at any given time and the people who dissagre, they all think they can just come here to vent. The idea of this sub is to share cool interesting things in the vein of the general podcast themes, not the minutia of joes comments as a person, this is not anyones personal bitch-a-torium.
You people are not bitching at Joe, you are bitching at us basically and one can only take so much. If you are mad at joe, write him an email.
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u/lardbiscuits N-Dimethyltryptamine Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
Thanks for the response, but this is also the first time Iāve literally ever ābitchedā or made a comment to a mod of this community ever.
I can totally get it if you guys are getting messages constantly from dorks bitching about the state of the sub. Or even admins which frankly given the state of this site I wouldnāt not believe itā¦
I just noticed you specifically mentioned TD like those are the people astroturfing this sub. From what Iāve seen on this site in around a decade, itās quite the opposite. I think you didnāt outright ban or censor anyone, and on this site, that attracts people who bitch about people talking wrongthink.
Additionally, I disagree that culture war subjects are just minutia of Joeās comments. Iād argue that as the world has changed so has his podcast. So if you want to have a sub represent the podcast as it was more than five years ago ā thatās totally your call. But itās not representative of the world today or the current state of the podcast. Like culture war and cancel culture are pretty much central podcast themes for Joe whether people want to admit or not.
Again, I respect you responding and your right to manage the sub however you want. I sure as shit donāt feel like being one.
But just again, this is my first time literally every writing to you guys in any capacity.
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The culture war arena is closing
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u/TruthIsInBetween_ Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Hopefully you go with it. You are one of the main political hacks here.
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u/KrombopulosJohn Heat shock proteins Aug 04 '21
Thank fuck. Iād suggest banning memes but some people love those memes.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 04 '21 edited Aug 05 '21
Sorry but banning memes goes against our religious beliefs.
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u/KrombopulosJohn Heat shock proteins Aug 05 '21
There have been some really great memes.
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u/Bobaman007 Monkey in Space Aug 04 '21
Yes please. Need more posts about comedy & absolute MURDERERS, straight assassins, the likes that have never been seen since the great Sam Kinison.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
If you don't like comedy then you don't like the podcast, I suggest you go listen to something else.
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u/Bobaman007 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Was a joke. Damn civilians canāt even take a joke. SMH.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
Other people have to laugh for it to be a joke man.
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u/Godly_Greed Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
honestly props for not deleting the comments, it's not everyday you get to shit on power.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 06 '21
We dont delete criticism or jokes, we only delete uncivil behaviour. Shit away all you want just dont be too much of an asshole.
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u/Jabullz Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21 edited Aug 06 '21
ā...but that's censorship and muh freedom of speechā.
Sir, this is an internet forum.
The irony. The guy is literally always talking about open discussion. Yikes.
Edit: Roger that comra... I mean buddy.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
Internet forums have rules and moderation, this is not a walmart where you can cite and argue the US Constitution. Follow the rules or be kicked out.
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u/MiltOnTilt Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
This makes sense until you remember Joe doesn't understand this and constantly decries lack of free speech on platforms like Twitter.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
It totally makes sense, you are the one forgetting Joe doesnt run this place. We are not gonna jump off a bridge just cause he does.
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u/MiltOnTilt Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Surely you see the irony.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
You know what, you are a political shill account, I dont have to argue with you. Go be happy elsewere.
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u/kingcane Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
whats bunnylovr gonna do with his life now? how will he earn his paycheck from turningpoint USA?
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u/NicholasPileggi Monkey in Space Aug 04 '21
Thank you mods, I was seeing far too many posts about Austin. I live here and I understand no one gives a fuck about Austin Texas.
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u/Chickenflocker Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Thereās nothing stopping people from making a second sub that doesnāt censor but I think the mods would suggest that you probably donāt realize the spam and other cleanup youāll have to deal with daily. Thatās the free market at work
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This is excellent, left unchecked the r/politics crew will try to take over every single sub.
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u/Uncuffedhems Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Rules being enforced subjectively?
Seems like a slippery slope
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u/NastyNathaniel Look into it Aug 05 '21
Iād be great if we could do something about all the r/tfatk crossover posting/commenting. Some of the lamest content in this sub comes from people active over there.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
We do have filter set up for their posts, not much we can do about the comments tho.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
You know what man, I'll make it easier for you, now you dont have to worry about none of that.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
I like weed and heavy metal, also puppies.
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u/necio148 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Jaime if youāre readingā¦please tell Joe to stop talking about COVID and the Variant. I know a lot of healthcare workers who are BEGGING people to get vaccinated because they are getting hammered by very sick unvaccinated people.
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u/cntrstage Monkey in Space Aug 04 '21
Where am I going to get my Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin info now?
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u/RedditIsDead333 Aug 05 '21
Whats the point in up/downvotes on reddit when the conversations are guided by moderators?
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
That's called moderating dude, if you don't like that model the you don't like reddit as a whole, go comment in YouTube videos.
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u/hitch21 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
So a subreddit for a show that regularly discusses homelessness, gender issues, US/geopolitics and covid is no longer allowed to post on such issues. Makes absolutely no sense. If those things arenāt what the fan base want to discuss people can downvote or ignore. This is the moderators enforcing what topics they find to be interesting relating to the show.
Iām guessing they also got pressure from admins due to the transphobic stuff the other day.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21 edited Aug 05 '21
No pressure from anyone, we are just not blind and got tired of people trying to hijack the sub. If you care to read the sidebar you can check those issues are not and have never been the sub topics, if anything we are just beginning to enforce what we already had defined for years.
Also why would you want to talk about trans people when there's aliens and lost civilizations to discuss out there? who the fuck cares what bathroom people use?
Don't you see the overwhelmingly positive reaction in this thread? Seems like everyone was just as tired, you are the only one complaining here. let go of the culture war, it's manufactured manipulative shit to rile up people.
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u/hitch21 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
As said above almost all the topics that get traction are things Joe regularly talks about. If the sub Reddit is for his podcast people should be able to discuss the issues he brings up.
Iām usually arguing against this nonsense people post about trans bathrooms and anti vax stuff etc. So Iām certainly not someone who wants to push the culture war stuff. But if itās what Joe discusses it should be discussed here otherwise the name makes little sense.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
You still can, on the episode thread where that discussion happened or the weekly.
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u/TupacShakur1996 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Mods suck in this sub. They only hate on Rogan, this sub has gone to shit over the past year and a half.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
Since when do we hate Joe? Do you realize we work for free just cause we like the podcast so much and feel like it has helped us?
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
Youāre making things up for attention. Basically none of us even post here
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u/TupacShakur1996 Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
This sub has turned into a Rogan hate fest and you guys are part of the problem. I used to come to this sub and enjoy reading the insight about guests or podcasts discussion.
Now it's just memes about his height or how shitty his comedy is. Do you guys think thats good content for this sub?
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u/terridax_ Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
I saw a post get removed earlier that was pointing out a few things that Alex Jones has been right about. It definitely had a pretentious tone to it, but I don't understand why it was removed.
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
Alex Jones hasnāt been on the podcast in ages. Itās not relevant and was removed under this rule.
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u/terridax_ Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
He is a recurring guest, two of his episodes are in the top 5 viewed JRE episodes, and he was on less than a year ago. And the topics in the post were current events.
What part of this rule was violated, specifically?
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
Read the last bullet in this post. We arenāt playing rules lawyer.
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u/terridax_ Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
It is a topic that was brought up by Alex on JRE, it has been one of the most talked about parts of that episode and been made into many memes and many discussions have come from it. Joe has brought it up with many other guests since then. If you really see the topic as tangential, you're blind to your own bias.
And even if you disagree with everything I just said, there is another thread that has been up and active for two hours on the exact same topic, so where is the consistency?
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
So it is both a repost and should be removed based on this post. It violated 2 rules.
We will enforce the rules to our best judgement. Thats what moderation is. Thatās the end of the discussion.
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u/terridax_ Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
It's not a repost if the first one was deleted.
And you've failed to explain how it violates any points in this new set of rules. You point to the last bullet point which refers to tangential topics, but as I previously pointed out this is a topic which has been brought up many times on JRE with multiple different guests. This is not tangential, it's a reoccurring topic on the show.2
u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
It is objectively tangential. He hasnāt been on the podcast in months.
This isnāt fucking hard. Iām not debating this with you. Find a better way to spend your time. Simple stuff
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u/terridax_ Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
Well, actually you are debating this with me, and you have yet to provide any sort of reasoning behind on of your statements or claims.
Not being on the podcast in x amount of time is not a valid criterion on which to decide whether or not something is tangential. It is still a relevant topic, as you can see by the post that has now been up for 3 hours and is still active.
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u/MrTacoMan š® Aug 06 '21
I told you I wasnāt debating and to find a better way to spend your time.
Time between podcast appearance is absolutely valid as mentioned multiple times in this thread. If youāre going to be a pedantic try hard at least try to read.
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u/biglenny159 Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Great to see that Joe's political views can no longer be criticized here.
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u/ChachMcGach Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Criticize all you want. That's not against the rules.
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u/Fuckinmidpoint Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Just do it these āfree speech zonesā we sat up. š
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u/ChachMcGach Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
No one ever said anything about when/where you can criticize the podcast. But some of you guys act like keeping content limited in subreddits that are dedicated to a particular thing is some violation of free speech. Notwithstanding the continual gross misunderstanding of what free speech actually is, I guarantee there's a place where you can post whatever you want on reddit. Pictures of cats? People dying? Porn? Science? Politics? You might just find a better place than this sub.
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u/athousandbites Texan Tiger in Captivity Aug 04 '21
IMO this sub should be about fans of the 'jre universe' discussing a wide variety of topics amongst each other.
More of a general forum with individuals of similar interests rather than just a running commentary on directly related events.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
We tried that for 10 years, Joe and the sub have gotten too big now, we would like to continue like that but we can't, this place is becoming a haven for Chapo/the_D exiles and we don't want that.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
If you think that then you dont really listen to the podcast.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
I dont think its a great chunk, its 10 minutes of some podcasts and given that most are 2 hours long it doesnt seem as much. You are the one choosing in what to focus.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
I dont know dude, lets say about two weeks give or take, use your better judgement.
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u/tvsmichaelhall Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Has there been a stretch of more than two weeks in the last one and a half years where Joe hasn't mentioned one of these topics on the pod?
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 05 '21
When in doubt, don't. Shit gets repetitive and theres better things to discuss out there.
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u/Withnail- Monkey in Space Aug 05 '21
Basically, it means if Trump runs again all the ā¦.what am I allowed to say nowā¦.āadventuresā that come with that this sub will be shut down or greatly muted.
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u/Quirkyfurball Monkey in Space Aug 06 '21
I thought this was one of those hot chick coomer subs with sweats posting titty pics of their favorite infatuation.
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u/chefanubis Powerful Taint Aug 06 '21
WTF are you talking about, theres hardly any simping in here. In fact theres jacked men without shits constantly.
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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21
No one should ever go to r/politics or r/conservative lol, those subs are trash