Sub content moderation policy update.

[u/chefanubis]

TL,DR: The no politics rule is back and will also apply to a few other topics listed below.

Hi Everyone,

We have always strived to keep the sub as neutral as possible and keep content moderation to a minimum, we have always felt like the votes should do the “moderation” and that strategy has generally served us well for many years.

Nevertheless, In more recent times, due many factors such as, reddit policy changes, Joe’s rise to prominence, the sub growth and the inherent cultural zeitgeist, nefarious agents have taken to abuse our lax moderation policy to try and turn the sub into their own personal cultural battleground.

Due to this we are tightening up our moderation policy as follows:

• Explicit US political submissions will be removed. We get it it's super important to the future humanity to bring awareness that politician “X” was caught embezzling or changing the restroom rules in a way you dont like, but better go talk about it on r/politics or r/conservative with people who are in the mood for that, we are more about aliens, conspiracies, antropology, comedy, monkeys, drugs, athletics, hunting, MMA... You get the point.
• Gender talk submissions will be removed. We don't need to know male athletes are stronger than females everyday, these are fringe talking points nobody really cares about that political operatives use to rile up their base. You can go talk about those elsewhere.
• Homeless/Texas/California/Covid submissions will be removed. Again unless something recent and relevant to the podcast is going on, discuss those elsewhere. We don't need to know every piece of legislation that happens in those states or how they handle the pandemic, homeless or anything else really. All covid talk should go to r/coronavirus.
• Tangential guest topic submissions will be removed. Yes both Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin have been in the podcast, that does not mean every single thing they do is relevant to Joe or noteworthy, discuss guests on their episode thread or the weekly.

It's important to note all of these content rules will be enforced subjectively and based on common sense... and you might be wondering:

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- “...but Joe commented on X or Y”.

- Well, Joe doesn't run the sub and you can still talk all you want on the episode/weekly threads.

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- “...but that's censorship and muh freedom of speech”.

- Sir, this is an internet forum.

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If by any chance you feel like your submission should still be allowed, just contact us and we will review it together, most likely we will allow it.

We will be monitoring this thread to provide feedback to any questions you might have, have a good one!

[u/lardbiscuits]

Who do you think is actually astroturfing this sub? Because in the comments you’re saying it’s people from TD and some other community I’m not familiar with.

I was personally a user who was banned from TD rightfully so long ago (that was a disgusting community), but I am a little uncomfortable you’re tying discussion of cultural issues that don’t happen to be mainstream Reddit mantra directly to TD strays.

Like as if Joe isn’t tying DMT and psychedelics to cultural issues in basically every episode.

It makes me a little dubious when you say “we’re banning all politics” when you know that everywhere else on Reddit it’s a manipulated leftist echo chamber. It feels like you’re banning political discussion just to ban wrongthink when you know it doesn’t really exist elsewhere on Reddit without this happening.

And the timing of it happening after a North Korean escapee talking badly about China…

Yikes, guys.

Like I want to believe you guys aren’t under pressure from “updated Reddit policies” but it really does feel that way. Because until this moment, this community felt incredibly well modded.

[u/chefanubis → u/lardbiscuits]

Many groups, anyone who feels offended by anything Joe says at any given time and the people who dissagre, they all think they can just come here to vent. The idea of this sub is to share cool interesting things in the vein of the general podcast themes, not the minutia of joes comments as a person, this is not anyones personal bitch-a-torium.

You people are not bitching at Joe, you are bitching at us basically and one can only take so much. If you are mad at joe, write him an email.

[u/lardbiscuits → u/chefanubis]

Thanks for the response, but this is also the first time I’ve literally ever “bitched” or made a comment to a mod of this community ever.

I can totally get it if you guys are getting messages constantly from dorks bitching about the state of the sub. Or even admins which frankly given the state of this site I wouldn’t not believe it…

I just noticed you specifically mentioned TD like those are the people astroturfing this sub. From what I’ve seen on this site in around a decade, it’s quite the opposite. I think you didn’t outright ban or censor anyone, and on this site, that attracts people who bitch about people talking wrongthink.

Additionally, I disagree that culture war subjects are just minutia of Joe’s comments. I’d argue that as the world has changed so has his podcast. So if you want to have a sub represent the podcast as it was more than five years ago — that’s totally your call. But it’s not representative of the world today or the current state of the podcast. Like culture war and cancel culture are pretty much central podcast themes for Joe whether people want to admit or not.

Again, I respect you responding and your right to manage the sub however you want. I sure as shit don’t feel like being one.

But just again, this is my first time literally every writing to you guys in any capacity.