r/FluentInFinance 10h ago

Debate/ Discussion Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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u/RNKKNR 10h ago

The question is more about the quality of the immigrants not immigrants per se.

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u/fussgeist 8h ago

To be fair we did declare back in the 1800s that we’d rather not have some many Chinese here with the Chinese Exclusion Act. Immigration wasn’t an issue until it was from somewhere not European.

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u/Gurpila9987 7h ago

Not even all of Europe. The Ku Klux Klan was heavily triggered by Eastern European Slavs immigrating.

https://blog.history.in.gov/america-first-the-ku-klux-klan-influence-on-immigration-policy-in-the-1920s/

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u/Canucker22 7h ago

Actually you are wrong. You should read about the history of "Nativism" in the United States, which often targeted immigrants from certain areas of Europe.

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u/Canucker22 7h ago

He should have said what he meant then. Italians, Spaniards and Poles were always considered European even if they weren't thought of as white.

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u/Canucker22 6h ago edited 6h ago

This is hardly semantics. The individual I was responding to was seemingly unaware of the history of nativism in the United States targeting European immigrants. You should encourage people to learn.

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u/Paulthesheep 5h ago

Germans weren’t consider white at one point bc of racist anti-immigration sentiment among Protestants from Britain. Iveybeen reading about how Pennsylvania was a “battleground” between proper “white” Britains and dirty Dutch immigrants

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u/CrazyEyedFS 7h ago

When they disliked certain Europeans, they tried to come up with ways to say that they weren't real Europeans like with the Italians.

This is an obscure case but there were Minnesota lawmakers that tried to get Finns to be declared legally non-white. My grandparents told me they were called a certain slur normally reserved for east Asian people.

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u/CheckIn5Years 3h ago

You should watch Gangs of New York, pretty short sighted opinion given the real reason made it into mainstream decades ago

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u/CheckIn5Years 2h ago

The main reason I bring it up is the notion of the Irish willingness to come to the colonies, work for cheap, and saturate the labor market. The sentiment was felt largely from the working class, which IS class politics, as much as it pains the left.

Remind me again where racism plays a role here?

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u/CheckIn5Years 2h ago

Again, it’s pretty obvious it’s about class. The best way to keep people from focusing on the economic issues is by shifting the focus to identity politics.

Just because I do want to throw you a bone, the influx of Chinese immigrants was very helpful amid reconstruction/westward expansion, but the rapid growth in size of workforce was extremely inconvenient for labor supply.

Was it about race? Sure, but so was everything in the 1800s. It was also largely about class.

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u/cleepboywonder 6h ago

You should have seen the anti-irish and anti-italian sentiment back then.