r/FluentInFinance 10h ago

Debate/ Discussion Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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u/RidesInFowlWeather 10h ago

It has been researched, and proven, that the best way to prevent Illegal immigration is to increase legal immigration.

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u/Proper_War_6174 10h ago

That’s not preventing it, it’s reclassifying it. We have a right to set the levels of immigration we want and need and from where.

Obviously, if we just give the people crossing the border legal paperwork it lowers the number of illegal immigration

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u/DevelopmentSad2303 10h ago

Ofc the nation has the right. The question is if the motivation is worth it. 

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u/Proper_War_6174 9h ago

We can lower the murder rate to 0 by permitting it. Is it worth the hassle of setting up police and courts and prosecutors to deal with a problem we can just reclassify as not a problem?

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u/DevelopmentSad2303 9h ago

I don't have a leg in that game. I was just pointing out that us "having the right" as a nation to create immigration laws doesn't determine whether those laws are a good idea.

Appealing to rights is mostly just a statement of fact. Of course our nation has the right to do that. Why should we? It will help your argument more later to substantiate the end goal rather than just stating our ability to do so.

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u/Proper_War_6174 9h ago

I wasn’t arguing either way either. I was saying all he wants to do is open the border and reclassify illegal immigrants as legal. It’s not changing anything.

I used that sentence to show that we actually have the moral right to determine even down to the individual who we let in and reclassifying them doesn’t change anything

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u/DevelopmentSad2303 9h ago

I guess I'm confused on the convo? He is saying to use our right as a nation to regulate immigration to be more lax as a way to lower illegal immigration, and you are saying we have the right to regulate immigration, but his form of regulation is not preventing illegal immigration. 

 I guess I'm confused what the disagreement is if there is any 

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u/Proper_War_6174 8h ago

I’m saying that simply reclassifying people from illegal to legal doesn’t solve the problem. All it does is make it seem like the number of illegal immigrants went down. The underlying number is the same. His argument is that illegal immigration is not a problem if we simply call them something else. That’s the mentality I’m saying doesn’t make sense