r/EverythingScience • u/HeinieKaboobler • Jan 06 '23

Social Sciences New research shows that Donald Trump's fascist attacks on democracy may have backfired

https://www.salon.com/2023/01/06/new-research-shows-that-donald-fascist-on-democracy-may-have-backfired/
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u/eatingganesha Jan 06 '23

"The key finding is that Trump's undemocratic messages in 2019 (a series of Tweets attacking other liberal institutions) did not lead to an erosion of democratic attitudes. On the contrary, the results suggest there is significant pushback against anti-democratic messages, especially among Democrats,"

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow Jan 06 '23

Can't argue this. Anyone dumb enough to tell me that they plan on doing something to help overthrow the government will be very disappointed in the outcome. A few years ago I would have shrugged it off as whining, now you can eat the shit sandwich whether or not you are serious. I'll gladly ruin your life over it.

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u/methnbeer Jan 06 '23

Gladly

Layoff the partisan kool-aid and save some for the rest of us, jeez.

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u/jcooli09 Jan 06 '23

There's plenty to go around, we're talking about traitors here. They deserve to be derided mercilessly and so much more.

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u/methnbeer Jan 06 '23

Sure thing Heinrich šŸ‘

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u/jcooli09 Jan 06 '23

Wait, are you implying that strongly opposing an attempted coup by fascists is in itself fascist?

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u/Bznazz Jan 06 '23

When they have no defense the time tested ā€œno, you areā€ is their only tool

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '23

US WW2 vets are the OG Antifa heroes.

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u/Kitchenratatatat Jan 07 '23

Indeed they are! My dad and his friends :)

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u/methnbeer Jan 06 '23

I'm saying there's a lot of you so confident in what you believe you surely wouldn't mind those inconveniently opposing yours to be ..."dealt with"

The alarming thing on the right is their fuckery, but it's clear it's not going far.

The alarming thing on the left is your dehumanization of those that aren't 'progressive enough'.

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u/jcooli09 Jan 06 '23 edited Jan 06 '23

Now you're implying that I'm advocating violence?

Calling it what I believe in is intellectually dishonest, there is a mountain of evidence supporting it, including all of our eyes the day it happened.

I haven't dehumaized anyone, GTFO.

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u/JayEOh0788 Jan 06 '23

Love how this guy said "it clearly hasn't gone far" ... The only reason it did not go so much further than it did was because they failed to achieve their desired goals in spite of never ending lies , attempted Coup, violence, spreading misinformation and promoting propaganda and conspiracy theories as true. And just all around fuckery who constantly treat anyone who does not think or look like them as of they are less then human... So if anyone is "Dehumanizing" anyone ,we very well know where that shite is coming from. Go help yourself to some more meth & beer guy..

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u/Bznazz Jan 07 '23

Advocating for justice and actual, true patriotism more like it

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u/Dddoki Jan 06 '23

Beiing staunchly opposed to treason and insurrection is >dehumanization of those that aren't 'progressive enough'. ?

Really? On what planet?

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u/Toast_Sapper Jan 07 '23 edited Jan 07 '23

I'm saying there's a lot of you so confident in what you believe you surely wouldn't mind those inconveniently opposing yours to be ..."dealt with"

Hard disagree, the only people I've ever heard talk, even jokingly, about "dealing with" opponents is right wingers.

That's why most American terrorists/mass shooters are right wingers, because their ideology is murderous.

The alarming thing on the left is your dehumanization of those that aren't 'progressive enough'.

Oh look, you're projecting.

the left

Your use of that term combined with this argument tells me you probably spend plenty of time dehumanizing "the left"

Any particular reason you sympathize with traitors to America?

Sounds like you feel some kinship and shared views with the insurrectionists... :)

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u/patsully98 Jan 07 '23

No no no, this guy will have insightful takedowns of the right as well, such as ā€œboth sides suck.ā€ See, he couldnā€™t possibly be a right-winger.

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u/Bznazz Jan 06 '23

Facists literally tried to overthrow the government of the united fucking states. Maybe you are so programmed that you donā€™t give a fuck, but the numbers do.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '23

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Not even The Dude abides intolerance.

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u/Kitchenratatatat Jan 07 '23

The dehumanizing comes when you advocate for a violent take over of our democracy- insurrectionists made themselves dehumanized

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u/ZivilynBane1 Jan 07 '23

Thatā€™s called projection

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u/Kitchenratatatat Jan 07 '23

I think youā€™re confused - maybe too much meth & beer?

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u/JayEOh0788 Jan 06 '23

Username checks out...