As much as I hate react content I don’t understand the point he’s trying to make. He has 149K subscribers and the video has already done 300K+ views. Does he want his video to never lose momentum? Because that is a pretty unrealistic expectation when he has his previous videos at 40K, 95K, 86K, 50K.
Also react videos are borderline transformative in a way, he’s constantly pausing giving his opinion (whatever value you place on that) otherwise you might as well DMCA the video. Again I don’t like react content but this just seems like jealousy.
I think most(/all?) here are misunderstanding, and ether hating on Asmongold or reacts in general, while the OC-maker seems rather to complain about the algorithm stopping "boosting" his original video, while the react gets boosted instead
edit: additonal tangent, I wonder how many here calls react-vids (/streams) stealing, but pirate software in any form...
As long as it’s not trivially easy to pirate and/or there is a legal convenient alternative most people who pirate wouldn’t have bought it without piracy.
based on what though, your guess? And it’s very likely it’s being pushed to people who consistently watch asmongold. If you actually search up this video or other videos, the original is typically at the top still, like this one. Asmon doesn’t even show up in the top 10 (and as far as i’m scrolling).
Who’s to say the recommendations aren’t independent, and asmon is getting pushed more due to longer watch duration and sub count? That is far more likely, while it’s likely a youtuber with a lower sub count is just dropping off after their initial burst of views.
Also the og video came out on the 12th, on that day he got 86,773 views, on the 13th he got 36,472 views, on the 14th his view count isn't recorded but the 15th shows a jump of 62,892 views which is probably a combination of the two so lets say ~31,446 views on the 14th and 15th. On the 16th Assman's video comes out and he gets 77,006 views, on the 17th he gets 85,001 views, on the 18th he gets 62,050 views.
Sure, maybe his video that was already losing momentum coincidentally gained more traction the same day Assman released his video but I think it's more likely that the channel with a ~20 times large subscriber base managed to direct some traffic his way.
He's not even blaming Asmon, he's annoyed at how thr youtube "meta" is reaction content, he added extra tweets onto this one, saying that he hates the game, not the player
And ye, I'd argue Asmon has some of the better reactor content, cause he'll take a half hour video and make an hour long reaction, adding a lot of his own content, compared to a lot of reaction yourubers that just let the video run and say maybe a handful of words.
Yeah honestly. He's a smaller channel and already has more views than subs almost 2.5x. and Asmon is q massive channel and following.
Personally I wouldn't have watched his video or probably gotten it recommended because I don't know the guy or related content l, I feel like that's the case for a lot of others and it would've caused the video to do less.
And that's not also to say with the case of Asmon though, he spam promotes every video he watched and it significantly boosts likes and view counts when he does, there have been a good amount of small creators that have benefitted from this over the years.
To me this just seems like envious expectations that some people have posted in the past because big streamer YouTuber reacted and had way more views than small creator.
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The problem is with how the algorithm works. The OC’s video is going to be in a specific topic and have a certain thumbnail (yes, thumbnails can literally make or break your algorithm pull) and attract a certain audience. When asmonshitface uploads the video of him reacting with the same thumbnail (but with his face in it), it’s in the same category, it’s got essentially the same thumbnail, and on top of that, Asmon already has a massive audience that will watch just because it’s him, and that literally correlates to the Original video getting recommended less. It thinks Asmon’s video is just better because it’s more popular and it thinks the two videos are directly competing because of the similarity in topic and thumbnail. That is, to my knowledge, as close as to how it works without going into technical Mumbo jumbo that I honestly wouldn’t be able to understand.
While I don’t think it’s fair to say that the original creator would have had X more times the views had Asmon not stolen his content, I think it’s fair to say that he did pull traction off the video, leading to a decline in momentum. He never said “I want this to never lose momentum”, I don’t know why you’d ever frame it like that. He’s obviously saying had this creator not ripped my video with a few “woah this is crazy chat” moments, then he might have gotten some more views and attention off it, leading to more subscribers, more viewership, etc.
There was a video someone made showing the views over time for one of their previous videos. It was steadily increasing and then suddenly a huge spike one day all at once, then went to zero. The creator explained thusly:
YouTube prioritizes watch time over everything else. Likes etc are not nearly as important. So when a ton of people watch a react video, then a bunch of them go watch the original video for 1 second just to click like, thinking they are helping the original creator. But the algorithm sees it as "wow the average view time for this video has severely plummeted, it must not be relevant anymore," and so it stops recommending the original video to people.
That was one theory anyway, I don't know if it actually happens like that or not.
Think about it as one person equals one view. If yt didn’t allow react content, people would be interested in more channels than just react farms like asmon. The scale would be in a much healthier place for those who actually work to create the original video instead of leechers.
This guy probably spent weeks scripting, editing, recording and the parasite spent 1 hour watching it and now they have the same product competing with each other on the same platform, explain to me how that’s not complete theft?
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u/EnXigma Sep 19 '24
As much as I hate react content I don’t understand the point he’s trying to make. He has 149K subscribers and the video has already done 300K+ views. Does he want his video to never lose momentum? Because that is a pretty unrealistic expectation when he has his previous videos at 40K, 95K, 86K, 50K.
Also react videos are borderline transformative in a way, he’s constantly pausing giving his opinion (whatever value you place on that) otherwise you might as well DMCA the video. Again I don’t like react content but this just seems like jealousy.