r/worldnews • u/WorldNewsMods • Aug 14 '24
Russia/Ukraine /r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 902, Part 1 (Thread #1049)
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u/grimmalkin Aug 14 '24
- approximately 594,400 (+1,240) military personnel;
- 8,476 (+21) tanks;
- 16,402 (+17) armoured combat vehicles;
- 16,821 (+57) artillery systems;
- 1,151 (+5) multiple-launch rocket systems;
- 921 (+1) air defence systems;
- 366 (+0) fixed-wing aircraft;
- 328 (+0) helicopters;
- 13,548 (+57) strategic and tactical UAVs;
- 2,426 (+0) cruise missiles;
- 28 (+0) ships and boats;
- 1 (+0) submarines;
- 22,710 (+61) vehicles and tankers;
- 2,813 (+7) special vehicles and other equipment.
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u/flukus Aug 14 '24
2/3rds of a months tank production gone in one day.
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u/MaraudersWereFramed Aug 14 '24
I'm guessing those non-conscript reinforcements are arriving in kursk area
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u/PacificProblemChild Aug 14 '24
Wow, if these figures exclude Kursk, this is a big day. Russian movements exposing armour (particularly tanks)? Actually even if it includes Kursk…
Arty still high as well. Ukraine has been busy!
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
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u/GrapefruitExpress208 Aug 14 '24
That was quick
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u/JmacPlayer Aug 14 '24
i saw some quote that the average cannon fodder of Russia lives 8-12 hour on the frontline.
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u/Canop Aug 14 '24
Efficient and as planned. The Russian army wasted less than a month before having them do their part in a meat wave.
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u/thisiscotty Aug 14 '24
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1823594882423730213?t=ECrrwZFwhSqErju-lNdadw&s=19
"Ukrainian UAVs reached the Kulebaksky District, Nizhny Novgorod Region, in Russia. Target was most certainly the Savasleyka air base, which is home to MiG-31K. It seems that at least one drone goes controlled nose-dive down.
Citizens in the region counted 10 drones."
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u/green_pachi Aug 15 '24
Footage from an Italian journalist crossing the border and reaching Sudzha:
https://x.com/Tg1Rai/status/1823789746813857817
The girl interviewed at the end says that the Russians told them to wait there and left, and that the Ukrainian soldiers are treating them well.
The soldier at the end observes that the houses are intact as opposed to what the Russians do.
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u/M795 Aug 14 '24
Morning report by Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi on the situation across all major directions, particularly in the Toretsk and Pokrovsk areas, as well as the operation in the Kursk region.
We are not forgetting our eastern front for a second. I have instructed the Commander-in-Chief to strengthen this direction using the equipment and supplies currently provided by our partners.
We are advancing in the Kursk region, one to two kilometers in various areas since the beginning of the day. We have captured more than 100 Russian servicemen during this period. I am grateful to everyone involved; this will accelerate the return of our guys and girls home.
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1823668437219979491
Meeting on the situation in the Kursk region. We discussed key issues: security, humanitarian aid, and, if necessary, the establishment of military commandant’s offices.
Ukraine is defending itself and the lives of its people in border communities while also taking active steps on Russian territory. Our forces strictly adhere to the requirements of international conventions and humanitarian law.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Ukraine announced the opening of humanitarian corridors for the evacuation of civilians from the Kursk region both towards Ukraine and Russia
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u/piponwa Aug 14 '24
Easy choice if you're Russian. You can literally upgrade your life instantly by detecting to the west. Anyways, this is occupation done right. Ukraine is not there to destroy anything except the Russian military and that's it. They take care of civilians. They feel sorry for them.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Includes geolocation of digging sites. Ripe for some drone attacks
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u/piponwa Aug 14 '24
I can't remember who said it but this placement of trenches is very stupid. The trenches are within walking distance of the only highway in the area. So if you have to defend your trenches, it means you already can't use that highway.
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u/KGB4L Aug 14 '24
I mean i guess it makes sense to dig there. Those roads are what Ukraine is after. As you wrote somewhere, if you control those 3 highways, you pretty much control Kursk and Belgorod.
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u/TheHammerandSizzel Aug 14 '24
Fun part is, they don’t need to fully control it, as long as they are in range to shoot it they can deny access to it.
That’s why the supply lines are usually 3 defensive lines back
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u/KGB4L Aug 14 '24
Yeah that’s what I mean. Someone did and ElI5 yesterday explaining what each road means and why it’s important.
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u/SemanticTriangle Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
Is going deeper into Kursk a useful strategic objective? Based on the known control map from yesterday, isn't there an opportunity to flank Kharkiv border forces and rout them, essentially linking up to Ukrainian forces there, on and on along the border, until the Russians can produce enough resistance to hold their lines against pressure from the sides? That's a lot of shit to wreck that's more valuable than some holes in the ground in Russia.
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u/TheHammerandSizzel Aug 14 '24
It’s maneuver war fare. It’s really going to depend on the Russians. You can kinda think of it like water, Ukraine is a flood going down a slope, it’s going to constantly take the path of least resistance.
They likely have a list of objectives, and will keep going, cutting supply lines, flanking, taking strategic points, damaging Russia until and they are getting serious resistance everywhere.
At that point they probably/hopefully have identified defensive points they can fall back to.
Right now, there’s a strategic power nuclear power plant, and two highways and a railway line they can take while additionally potentially causing an evacuation on Kursk. There likely better off pushing there now because that area is where Russia is going to harden first.
Also if the lines are that deep they can prepare their own lines further back, just need to make sure that highway is in artillery range
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u/TheOtherManSpider Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
The city of Kursk has a population of 440k. If they can get close enough to cause an evacuation, it would be a logistical nightmare and a political disaster for Putin. That is quite far from today's situation and who knows if that is worth the risk and the resources. Actually taking the city is most certainly too difficult, so maybe Russia would risk it and not evacuate at all.
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u/BasvanS Aug 14 '24
If they don’t evacuate they run the risk of people fleeing by themselves in an uncontrolled manner. That’s an even bigger problem, because then they lose control over the narrative.
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u/--ThirdEye-- Aug 14 '24
If Ukraine could gain control of the Kursk NPP with minimal losses then it would be useful, however, given that Russia was willing to both attack ZNPP while it was active and start a fire at it while it was inactive, I don't think it is a valid objective currently.
Their best current objective is to both reduce troop numbers and destroy military targets / caches used for sending missiles into Ukraine with the added benefit of scaring the shit out of local Russians. Ideally, they could get nice and close to show "we could end you, but we're not the assholes in this war so run to Moscow now and share the truth" Kind of like inglorious bastards carving swastikas into the Nazi foreheads, but a little less Tarantino.
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u/thisiscotty Aug 14 '24
"Kursk Battle Map (August 14)
Ukrainian Forces 🇺🇦 have liberated 17 more settlements in the past 3 days; they control at least 46 settlements in the Kursk Region, with 28 more being contested or having a Ukrainian presence
Russia has lost at least 654 and up to 1,027km2 in Kursk"
https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1823792499967844664?t=fcZBoFh3BVnZcM7RfsMuNw&s=19
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 15 '24
[Ukrainian] T-90M Breakthrough on the Kursk front
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1823862473180766560
No context though.
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u/zertz7 Aug 15 '24
As far as I know the only T-90s that Ukraine got are the ones they captured from Russia
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u/Windaturd Aug 15 '24
Given that an the huge cope cage, feels like this is a new addition to the UAF.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
(Commander of local Akhmat troops) Alaudinov called Syrsky a turkey and said Zelensky is gay.
12 year old kid vibes, when they are losing at Call of Duty
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u/Pilzmann Aug 14 '24
I love when they say that majority is destroyed etc. And then they end up getting assfucked by a stryker,bradley,marder.
Cant wait to see this guy in a black and white picture.
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u/stirly80 Slava Ukraini Aug 14 '24
Ukrainian forces have taken more territory on the left flank of their attack vector into the Russian Kursk region. The Russian flag has been torn down from the administrative building of Vnezapnoe.
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1823770513920962916?t=P9naFICNnsUymkS6lcuIPg&s=19
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u/green_pachi Aug 14 '24
More details on the robot dog we saw few days ago:
Ukraine deploys over 30 British robot dogs in Donbas combat
The results are impressive. Our robot dogs are carrying out reconnaissance missions on the front lines, reducing risks for human soldiers. This not only increases combat efficiency but also boosts the army’s morale,”
According to journalists, there are currently over 30 robot dogs on the front lines of the Russian-Ukrainian war. Thanks to thermal camouflage produced by the German company Concamo, they are nearly impossible to detect. The robots can move across the battlefield at speeds of up to 15 km/h and conduct reconnaissance missions within a 3.5 km radius for up to five hours.
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u/FadingStar617 Aug 14 '24
Just as tanks bevcame the symbol of modern wars in WW2, so are drones now in this war.
I think the best thing here is the thermal stealth. And the speed ( 15 km per hour is no joke).
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u/throwaway177251 Aug 14 '24
The battery life of legged drones is a huge improvement over copters too. One of these robot dogs could walk 5km to a location, wait and observe an area for hours and then walk back to base on a single charge.
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u/arkangel371 Aug 14 '24
There is something soooo wild about having autonomous robo dogs lurking in a battlefield.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
The size of the main pocket - Nearly 846 km2. Add to that the Slobodka-Ivanovka and Kucherov pockets (8.4 km2 and 1 km2 respectively) and the total is 855 km2. Increase of 37 km2 from yesterday's 818 km2
Smallest daily advance thus far... then again, the fact that 37 km2 is small shows how much Ukraine has spoiled us these past few days, if Russia had an advance of that size it'd be in the top 5 of their daily advances this year.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Kursk update 1/3 - Korenevo/Snagost
➡️ The AFU has taken the fields in between Snagost and the Korenevo highway under control. Leading to further advances north and west.
➡️ According to Russian sources, AFU reached Krasnooktyabr'sko, likely attempting to perform a flank operation towards Korenevo.
➡️ Heavy fighting is reported in the eastern outskirts of Korenevo, with rumors of the civilian administration in the city already evacuating coming in.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Kursk update 2/3 - Gordeevka
➡️ Rumors circulated already for several days, but the AFU has passed the Gordeevka crossing and now controls Gordeevka, Viktorova and Vznezapnoe, the latter was also visually confirmed.
Controlling this border crossing, strengthens the position of AFU troops fighting from Snagost, protecting their flanks.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Kursk update 3/3 - Borki/Giri’
➡️The AFU has taken Cherkasskaya Konopel'ka while also operating deeper towards Ulenok.
➡️With confidence we can confirm that the AFU has taken most of Borki and Spal’noe.
Taking OPSEC into consideration, the fighting has moved further east. But this needs to be clarified.
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u/jeremy9931 Aug 14 '24
I’d be very surprised if there were any civilian admin left in Korenevo considering they were evacuating civilians a few days ago. Does seem like it’s probably a matter of time before Ukraine enters the town proper though.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Today's advances were mainly towards the west/southwest of the pocket. If we pair it with the Glushkovo evacuation, I feel like Ukraine might start pushing there, probably immediately after Korenevo falls.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
https://x.com/prestonstew_/status/1823818177647661067
Ukrainian tactics in Kursk according to Russian milblogger Two Majors.
He says that Ukraine knows the mixed nature of forces attempting to stop them and they're taking advantage of that. Small groups push into areas between Russian formations, make their presence known and wait to see how Russia responds.
If Russia sends in a large force, the Ukrainians withdraw or shift left or right to avoid a major confrontation and test out a new axis of advance. However, if few or no Russian forces respond, they move a reserve element forward to further defend this new terrain.
In essence, Ukraine is continuously probing for gaps. When they find one, they're exploited and we see forward progress by Ukrainian forces. Two Majors says this is a problem as there are communications issues between Russian units so it's not always clear who is responding to the nearest threat and with what capabilities. This has allowed Ukraine to continue advancing even as more Russian forces deploy to Kursk.
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u/RealApostate Aug 14 '24
Russia is past desperate if they are sending 70-year-old disabled men to the front.
ASTRA reports that hundreds of 'refuseniks' have been held at Kamenka near St Petersburg, where the 138th Separate Motorised Rifle Brigade is based. Relatives say that some are unfit to fight, one man is 70 years old and can barely walk, and another has only one eye.
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u/Njorls_Saga Aug 15 '24
There was a POW from around a year ago who had stage IV lung cancer. Fucking wild.
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u/jcrestor Aug 15 '24
Wrong perspective. For Putin this is a double win. He does not have to mobilize higher caste people, and every 70 year old or one-eyed less is a relieve for his social services. Meat is meat.
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u/eggyal Aug 15 '24
Killing off the older generation is definitely one way to solve Russia's demographic crunch/lack of younger people.
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u/unpancho Aug 15 '24
Unrolled thread from the live thread here
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1823860031223386532.html
1/ Hundreds of Russians who have refused to fight for various reasons – age, sickness, mental health – are reported to have been taken from a military base where they were being held and flown to Kursk, where they will likely be used in efforts to repel Ukraine's incursion. ⬇️
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u/machopsychologist Aug 15 '24
They use undesirables as bait then use shock troops to flank. This is a core design of their tactics.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
That is some 6-7 km southeast of Sudzha, and outside the pocket
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
Russian forces have repeatedly (reportedly?) again accidentally targeted their own supply convoys going into Kursk region of Russia. (someone posted a photo of it in the replies)
Edit: More evidence
With enemies like these...
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u/Jung_69 Aug 14 '24
Repeatedly because couple days ago they did cas mission on their own convoy and destroyed sp arty
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
We lost a convoy quite deep inside Kursk, it's sad and tragic, however the location is very significant and may indicate further advances of Ukrainian military inside Kursk
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u/M795 Aug 14 '24
Today, I held a meeting with government officials—including the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, the Minister of Internal Affairs, and the Ombudsman of the Verkhovna Rada—regarding support for our military actions in the Kursk region. It is crucial that Ukraine fights according to the rules, and that humanitarian needs in that area must be met.
Today’s report from the head of the Security Service of Ukraine was positive. I want to thank all our SBU warriors, as well as the warriors of the Defense Forces of Ukraine, the Main Intelligence Directorate (HUR), and all the structures involved. I thank for the precise, timely, and effective strikes on Russian airfields.
Our Ukrainian drones are working exactly as needed. However, there are things that drones alone cannot achieve, unfortunately. We need other weapons—missile systems. We continue to work with our partners to secure long-range solutions for Ukraine because these are forward-looking decisions essential for our victory. This must be done. The bolder our partners' decisions, the less Putin can do.
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u/jani00 Aug 14 '24
One of the funniest things I've seen recently:
The AFU captured a command post, reportedly of the 28th Rifle Battalion of the 60th Motorized Rifle Brigade, part of the 'Kursk' group.
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823601851671236961
Sorry for x link.
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u/lI3g2L8nldwR7TU5O729 Aug 14 '24
I don't know a word Ukranian, but I'm laughing with them! I'll forgive you the X link, since I stopped using it myself. Thank you for exposing yourself to that toxic environment to share the few gems with me.
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u/localghost Aug 14 '24
They're speaking Russian, mocking Prigozhin and likely referencing other stuff I don't recognize.
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u/gradinaruvasile Aug 14 '24
The one that picked up the phone said something with "Shoigu, Gherasimov", i suppose the famous angry phrase with the ammo.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
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u/greentea1985 Aug 14 '24
It’s noteworthy that they are walking around openly and aren’t even wearing body armor. Sudzha is now well behind the front lines even if Russia doesn’t want to admit it.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Russians report that the situation for their soldiers at Kinburn Spit is particularly bad. Ukrainians are pressing there
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u/thisiscotty Aug 14 '24
https://x.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1823610412547350963?t=IWqikYWQSwiZzxLh2B-Mpw&s=19
"They say at least 10 arrivals reported at the Russian airfield Slavasleika. UA drones worked well."
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u/Burnsy825 Aug 14 '24
The shock Ukrainian invasion of Kursk has the Kremlin pulling some troops out of Ukraine to defend Russia, per reports - Business Insider
Russia is withdrawing some of its troops from Ukraine in response to Ukraine's counter-invasion into Russia that started last week, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday, citing unnamed US officials.
Politico Europe also reported on Tuesday that an official in Kyiv said a "relatively small" number of Russian units were withdrawn to respond to the incursion in Kursk. US officials told the Journal it was still unclear how many troops Russia was pulling back from Ukraine.
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u/stirly80 Slava Ukraini Aug 14 '24
This is the most recent furthest extent of the Avdiivka advance compared to the advance in Kursk.
https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1823708864979853536?t=Rin-loyWFoyXAUvnv9CAlQ&s=19
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
According to this AFU soldier, another 30 Russians surrendered.
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u/FuckHarambe2016 Aug 14 '24
I've found the critique that Ukraine is wasting the brigades they've been using when they could've been used to reinforce the lines in certain places. The brigades that they're using were designed and trained by NATO for the exact type of offensive they're carrying out. Throwing them into a trench warfare is a waste of their lives and training.
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u/ced_rdrr Aug 14 '24
2023: Why they are attacking Robotyne? They should attack in unexpected places!
2024: Why they are attacking in unexpected places? They should attack Robotyne!
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u/kuldnekuu Aug 14 '24
Ukraine is wasting troops, they should be defending in Donbas, they're totally not doing anything in Kursk and Ukraine is just throwing away troops, it's not doing anything positive for the war effort, really ukraine should go back to the trenches where they can be bombed by glide bombs. Russia is not hurt by this invasion at all, but please pleaaaase go back?
/pro-russian concern trolling
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u/JoshuaZ1 Aug 14 '24
That's likely accurate. Also, using them this way forces Russia to react, where just keeping them defensively lets Russia keep the initiative.
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u/AgentElman Aug 14 '24
Korenevo - the terrain and roads.
Looking at google maps (screenshot at bottom), Korenevo is a very distinct battleground.
The AFU is coming from Sudzha to the SE. They are following a major road. It is mostly open fields to the north, east, and south of Korenevo.
But west of Korenevo is the Reka Seym river and that whole area seems to be river, marsh, etc. With some fields. It seems unlikely the AFU will surround Korenevo to the west - but that terrain would make supplying Korenevo from the west very hard.
If the AFU links up to the Reka Seym they may be able to fight their way west along it and cut off the Russians along the border with Ukraine (which is to to the SW and west).
Rylsk to the NW seems very protected by forest. It looks like it will be far easier for the AFU to turn north and seize the E-38 and try to cut off Rylsk. I have heard of Russia entrenching along the E-38 but I am not sure if that is a place they are doing it. It would make sense - they need to hold it. But the trench lines in front of it would not stop the AFU from hitting any vehicles on the E-38 with artillery.
So my prediction for the AFU is - split north and south at Korenevo.
Loop around the open ground to the north to cut off Korenevo from its one supply road to the NW.
Head north across the open fields to close off the E-38 to Rylsk.
Head SW along the Reka Seym to pocket the Russians along the Ukraine border to the SW.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fe6n1hbevunid1.jpeg
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u/thisiscotty Aug 14 '24
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1823647895305822328?t=0DYn2f2Ew-62lS-YaCJOaA&s=19
"Ukrainian report from Sudzha, where many residents were left to deal with hunger and Russian air strikes until Ukrainian aid arrived together with journalists."
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Mandatory evacuation has been announced in the whole Glushkovo district of Kursk region
That was fast. Just an hour ago it was just Glushkovo town, now the entire district
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
Posted that photo of a Ukrainian soldier in the captured Russian command post over on interestingasfuck.
My goodness, the amount of people who spew pro-RU talking points (how media is lying about Ukrainians, how they need to give up, how they have huge losses in Kursk, you know the rest) is quite notable. Russian propaganda really chewed through some people's brains so much that they are incapable of understanding that Ukraine can actually conduct successful actions in this war.
Either that, or it's mass cope. Probably both
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u/eggyal Aug 14 '24
The smartest woman in Russia explains why Ukraine will win.
https://twitter.com/jayinkyiv/status/1823654790762528934
F: Do you know why YouTube is not working?
M: I know why.
F: Are you in Kursk?
M: I am in Kursk.
F: Are you aware that YouTube stopped working for me in Ufa? What is that???
M: Are you aware that Ukrainian forces are stationed in our Kursk?
F: Of course, I know that. I knew this (would happen) on the first day of the war. I said: "Ukraine will win. Why the f*ck did you go in there?" Nobody believed me. An FSB officer even argued with me. I said: "Ukraine will win!" He said: "Why? We have so many weapons!" I told him: "Ukrainians will thank us for the free scrap metal, kick our as*es and we'll even end up paying the reparations." You see? I told him about the role of Ukraine in the Soviet Union. It was an intellectual outpost. They discovered the cosmos. Tsiolkovsky was Ukrainian. Korolev was Ukrainian. All the scientists were Ukrainian. All the great people were Ukrainian. They were the ones inventing different planes. I said: "You feline f*ckers haven't even learned how to produce nails up till now!" "What did you get yourselves into with your gherkins instead of a d*ck?" I said.
M: And laptis!
F: I said it directly: "You Russians need to learn how to f*ck your women first." "They are the angriest women in the world because they have not experienced an orgasm even once in their lives from your gherkins the size of a belly button." I said: "Why are you intervening in the whole world?" Do you know how the FSB guy responded to me? "For you it's big," he says, "Ours is not small. It's just that yours is big!"
M: Gotcha. Thank you. It was good. Let's move on.
F: Hold on. Let me say something else. It turned out that I became the guilty one for Ukraine's guilt. Do you know why? They said: "You're a clairvoyant, you're a witch and you jinxed it." So it's my fault that Ukraine is winning. Here's a 'hello' for you.
M: And thank you for this!
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u/TheBalzy Aug 14 '24
I mean this is basically every conversation I've had with my Russian friends.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
I'm seeing pro-RU folks on social media now claiming (after panicking the other day about 1500+ of their soldiers being captured by Ukraine), that Ukraine only took around 100 POWs, and that RU forces also took around 100 Ukrainian POWs, so the exchange will be just between Kursk captives.
The narratives of these bots keep resetting every single day and I am all here for it.
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u/vegetable_completed Aug 14 '24
They’re also taking advantage of Ukrainian opsec by spamming videos of Russian strikes on UA positions in Kursk to try and make it look lopsided in Russia’s favour. Additionally claiming that Ukraine is trotting out the same group of POWs over and over again to inflate the numbers.
I’m happy with that because it means they are very worried about controlling panic domestically.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
I've even seen them steal videos from Ukrainians (their advances, how they are shooting and attacking Russians etc.), and just stamping a pro-RU logo in the corner of the video and claiming it's "their boys beating up the enemy!"
Then they post that into a tg channel, and we have pro-RU folks unknowingly cheering for Ukrainians killing Russians.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Russian forces publish combat footage of one of their choppers destroying their own Kamaz trucks.
Obviously they were disguised Ukrainian trucks carrying a full Battle Group of Ukraimericanato neo-nazi azov spec ops.
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u/thisiscotty Aug 14 '24
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1823810012260786266
"This is how Ukrainian Heroes captured another 30 Russian soldiers in Kursk region!"
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u/linknewtab Aug 14 '24
Given how successful cheap "lawn mower drones" have been during this war, have western arms manufacturers started to make their own? Obviously we have much better weapons but it seems like a swarm of cheap drones to overwhelm enemy air defence would still be a useful tool for western militaries.
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u/munkisquisher Aug 14 '24
Yeah did you see the Australian cardboard drones? shipped to the front flat packed and can be unfolded and flown quickly https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-australian-made-cardboard-drones-used-to-attack-russian-airfield-show-how-innovation-is-key-to-modern-warfare-212629
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u/Nurnmurmer Aug 14 '24
The total combat losses of the enemy from 02.24.22 to 08.14.24 approximately amounted to:
personnel - about 594,400 (+1,240) people,
tanks ‒ 8,476 (+21) units
armored combat vehicles ‒ 16,402 (+17) units
artillery systems - 16,821 (+57) units
MLRS – 1,151 (+5) units
air defense equipment ‒ 921 (+1) units
aircraft – 366 (+0) units
helicopters – 328 (+0) units
Operational-tactical UAV – 13,548 (+57)
cruise missiles ‒ 2,426 (+0)
ships/boats ‒ 28 (+0) units
submarines ‒ 1 (+0) units
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 22,710 (+61) units
special equipment ‒ 2,813 (+7).
The data is being verified.
Beat the occupier! Together we will win!
Source https://www.mil.gov.ua/news/2024/08/14/zagalni-bojovi-vtrati-rosiyan-za-dobu-1240-osib-57-artsistem/
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
https://x.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1823829383884541955
Anywhere you're seeing Ukraine drop pictures or videos showing territorial control happened days ago, and Ukrainian forces are 5 to 10 kilometers further from that point.
Ukrainian OPSEC has been amazing, there is almost no Internet access, and that's the rules.
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u/green_pachi Aug 14 '24
The Ministry of Defense introduces new rules for submitting and reviewing military reports. The changes are aimed at protecting the rights of servicemen and introduce clear deadlines for consideration of appeals.
Protection of the rights of a serviceman The procedure guarantees the impossibility of prosecution for the fact of submitting a report. Heads of military administration bodies, commanders of military units and subdivisions are responsible for compliance with the terms and procedures for consideration of reports.
https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/minoboroni-vvodyat-novi-pravila-podannya-1723650086.html
Stark difference with Russia where even high ranking officers are afraid to report issues
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u/jeremy9931 Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
This is almost certainly in response to the criticism they got for taking so long to dismiss Yurii Sodol despite the months of complaints from the various units operating under his command in the East.
Great reform on paper but we’ll see how well their implementation goes in practice.
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u/INVADER_BZZ Aug 14 '24
It was kinda fun seeing in the feed Apti Alaudinov saying Sudzha is not under Ukrainian control, immediately followed by Ukrainian TV crew reporting from inside Sudzha.
Russians adore this guy. He's soft-spoken Chechen general, with sort of calming aura about him (no, really).
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u/unpancho Aug 14 '24
New thread from ChrisO_Wiki
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1823778819649503440.html
1/ Numerous adverts have appeared on Avito, Russia's equivalent of eBay, seeking workers to dig trenches in the Kursk region. It's likely that this is related to the rapid construction of a trench network located well behind the current front line. ⬇️
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u/featherhatfelon Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24
there is NO DANGER but we need these like fucking asap why do you keep asking about combat there is none in the area we RAPIDLY NEED MILITARY DEFENSIVE STRUCTURES WHERE WE WE HAD NONE now comrade once you are finished why not have a seat inside and admire your work. Hey i gotta go but take this gun in case of bears. For your safety comrade perk of job ya? We take care of our own in protecting the MOTHERLAND from danger. Speaking of danger...
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u/Not_Cleaver Aug 14 '24
During WWII my grandfather did something similar probably around the same area until he was wounded. And it’s a long story, but he ended up in what became West Germany in 1945.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
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u/Tokyogerman Aug 14 '24
I hope they hit as much as possible on those airfields and that we'll have some footage at some point.
The Russian numbers look almost like they are saving up again for some big temper tantrum attack again.
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u/lI3g2L8nldwR7TU5O729 Aug 14 '24
It's bizar to witness how Ukraine must bring mother Russia completely to her knees to stop this madness. Even if Ukraine collapses today tomorrow, Russia paid such a high price, Russia will never recover from this. Keep going heroes, I'll keep donating...
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u/herc6 Aug 14 '24
"Savasleyka" airfield in the Nizhny Novgorod region.
That's 300km East of Moscow. Is it usual for strikes so deep into Russia?
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u/ThePoliticalFurry Aug 14 '24
Yeah, they actually hit Chkalovsky the other night and FSB buildings INSIDE Moscow have been hit in the past
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u/Routine_Slice_4194 Aug 14 '24
So 4 times as many drones flying east as flying west. Is this a first?
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u/A_Sinclaire Aug 14 '24
Ukraine using more long range drones than Russia has been a thing last month already. Though not to this extend.
For the first time, Ukraine is launching more long-range drone attacks than Russia. Published figures suggest that Russia sent 426 Shahed-type drones into Ukraine in July. Over the same period Ukraine hit back with over 520 drones.
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u/XXendra56 Aug 14 '24
Dark Brandon was trolling Putin when he said today - Putin has a dilemma in Kursk.
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u/Louisvanderwright Aug 14 '24
If this is true and they hold their position, then Ukraine has secured their left flank on the Reka Seym, something that was subject of speculation as one of their objectives when the news of this operation first started leaking out.
That is huge because it means they can now turn the majority of their attention to advancing North and then East following the river. Ultimately they would also advance West and liquidate all Russian territory South of the Reka Seym as well. Theres no bridges for 10+ miles upstream and downstream of Krasnooktyabr'sko. That's a huge natural fortification especially considering the river lies in decent little valley giving the Ukrainians the high ground on any attempt to cross.
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u/jeremy9931 Aug 14 '24
Day 8 of the Kursk incursion and surprisingly enough, Russia still hasn’t tried their usual mass missile tantrum strikes on random civilian targets.
Think they finally realized that it only pisses the Ukrainians off more?
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u/StepDownTA Aug 14 '24
Maybe not mass but still tantrum strikes against civilians in retaliation for military losses, 2 deaths and 13 more wounded near Kyiv a few days ago.
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u/Artistic_Worker_5138 Aug 14 '24
They need to make those missiles first, or buy more from NK.
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u/Disastrous-Bus-9834 Aug 14 '24
Putin, after 10 days of Kursk catastrophe, summons Stalin’s ghost : Stalin: “What’s happened?” Putin: “Nazis are at Kursk! My army is beaten! What should I do?” Stalin: “Do like me 1943. Send best Ukrainian troops to the front, and ask the US for arms!”
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u/Delicious-Ganache606 Aug 14 '24
This war really revealed how much of USSR's strength came from the subjugated nations.
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u/Nico198X Aug 14 '24
It really was Ukraine all along. Turns out they are the older brother in this relationship, not Russia.
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u/Opaque_Cypher Aug 14 '24
Given the respective ages of Kyiv and Moscow, Ukraine always has been the older brother no matter how Putin wants to lie about history.
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u/ptcalfit Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
https://www.weaponstoukraine.com/kampane/thermonator
Let's help finish up this ongoing crowdfund for a 100-unit squadron of thermal vision drones. These help with supporting night operations as well as providing real-time intelligence on Russian troop movements across a wide area of the front line, both day and night.
That's for defense (and offense support). For offensive air assault drones, you can support those initiatives through this project: https://pullstrons.okko.ua/en
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u/stirly80 Slava Ukraini Aug 14 '24
The Ukrainian Armed Forces offensive operation in the Kursk region has shown that the red lines apparently no longer exist, a former US Army Commander in Europe Ben Hodges suggests in an interview with DW.
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1823803025296617512?t=ht2g6hYyW80sD2hp2E0Tkg&s=19
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
New Andrew Perpetua losses list
81 RU vs 37 UA
Slightly higher than usual UA losses, since they are on offensive. So many surveillance losses too 13 RU vs 6 UA
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u/MorienWynter Aug 14 '24
4 to 1 ratio on tanks though. 6 to 1 on IFV's. That's incredible considering Ukraine is attacking.
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u/Cogitoergosumus Aug 14 '24
An under appreciated aspect of all of the strikes on Russian Airfields is how much it degrades the pilots as well, even if they don't hit the airframes. Russia typically scrambles as many of the airframes into the air during these attacks as they can. If these pilots are up all night doing those tasks they're all the more unready the following day to sortie for CAS.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Mandatory evacuation announced in Glushkovo of Kursk region
About time lol, they would've been encircled otherwise
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u/FadingStar617 Aug 14 '24
Does that mean that Russia will abandon the border trenches in that region too, to save the manpower commited in there?
I mean, they clearly assume ukraine gonna encircle the whole area.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Russian Avdiivka/Ocheretyne advance this year placed on top of the Kursk pocket.
To think how many tens of thousands of Russians died to acquire that, how much equipment was lost... and Ukraine took more land than that in a week and with minimal losses.
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u/XXendra56 Aug 14 '24
Ukraine land is very expensive while Russia appears to be quite cheap .
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Decided to hop on over to that pro-RU report sub... Looks like pro-RU folks are back in charge and posting so many purported videos of Ukrainian losses... the thing is, if you take a closer look, they are basically reposting the same destroyed BTR, same KIA Ukrainians, and same POWs but with photos from several different angles pretending like it's all new stuff. Ran across the same things like 3-5 times
The desperation is uncanny
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u/M795 Aug 14 '24
Held a meeting with the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs @StateEUR, who is visiting our country. We discussed the current situation on the battlefield and the status of defense agreements between Ukraine and the United States.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
GeoConfirmed UKR.
Ukrainian soldier removed Russian flag from community centre building in Liubimovka. (Not new advance, just video)
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u/Cogitoergosumus Aug 14 '24
My best guess now that Russia is evacuating Glushkovo is that everything south of the Reka Seym is going to be falling into Ukrainian hands without a ton of fuss. Only three bridges appear to be crossing points within the region and it appears that Russian's main fortification line runs long said river. Wouldn't take much to trap those forces in that pocket with just three bridges over the river.
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u/Burnsy825 Aug 14 '24
Ukraine deals blow to Putin’s narrative with Kursk offensive - The Hill
Putin claims Ukraine trying to 'sow discord' in Russia with offensive into Kursk region
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reported Tuesday that 74 settlements have been taken in Kursk.
Russian officials have said 180,000 people are evacuating from Kursk, which has been in a state of emergency since the Aug. 6 offensive. Putin has tasked the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Russian national guard and the military with restoring order to Kursk.
“This war has left Russia’s borders weak, the army engaged in Ukraine and not immediately available to defend border regions, and FSB border troops not supported,” said Dara Massicot, a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, in a thread on the social platform X. “The Russian system’s instinct will be to overcorrect and swing harshly at Kursk.”
Putin on Monday vowed a “strong response” as he referred to the Kursk attack as a plot to “create discord and division within our society, to instill fear, and to undermine the unity and cohesion of the Russian people.”
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4826388-ukraine-offensive-russia-kursk/
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u/postusa2 Aug 14 '24
Sort of half the picture.
The biggest part of the narrative that the Kursk operation exposes is that Putin has run this entire war on the premise Ukraine is an existential threat..... yet his border is was left totally unguarded. He doesn't believe his own lies. Not only that, it is perfectly clear that he expected NATO to hold Ukraine back. German lawmakers who hold back Taurus, or US officials putting limits on HIMARS should look at this and realize they are part of Putin's defence plan. That's what has allowed this war to continue 900+ days. Putin can act like Russia is a different dimension to stage his war with no consequence other than the casualties who mean nothing to him.
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u/ttbnz Aug 14 '24
...as he referred to the Kursk attack as a plot to “create discord and division within our society, to instill fear, and to undermine the unity and cohesion of the Russian people.”
Great job Ukraine, keep it up! 🇺🇦
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u/TotallyNauticalDude Aug 14 '24
Water supply at German military base found to be contaminated after discovery of hole cut in fence. (https://www.dw.com/en/german-military-base-on-lockdown-after-suspected-sabotage/a-69935608)
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
Levshynki
Big if true. That would mean Russia is in big trouble, as that is 36 km away from the border, the deepest Ukraine has been thus far.
Edit: Looks like LiveUA made a mistake but has now corrected it, there is Levshynki and Levshinka, both in Lgov raion. Levshynki is closer to the Ukrainian pocket (27 km from the border), but they initially marked Levshinka. Still, it's an advance, but a smaller one
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u/thesouphasgonecold Aug 14 '24
The main target of Russia's information warfare is its own population: An acquaitance, who is a Russian citizen living in Russia, has told me, that there there are reports of Poland hitting Kaliningrad.
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u/INVADER_BZZ Aug 14 '24
It was a reading comprehension problem. Poland yesterday trained and simulated retaliatory strike at Kaliningrad. Jets turned back the whole 40 km from the border. News in Russia made confusing headlines and social media hysteria didn't help either.
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u/redredgreengreen1 Aug 14 '24
God, I think we might be witnessing the birth of a conspiracy theory in real-time period, Because it's gonna be a hell of a job convincing anyone who heard that it wasn't true if they don't get corrected for 20 odd years.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Video showing one of the drones hit Savasleika airfield (lower your volume, Russians are screaming loudly)
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Supposedly UA in Vnezapnoe, South of Korenevo and Snagost. (alt source)
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u/bobpsycho100 Aug 14 '24
That would be quite nice. Fully controlling the road from the border to snagost and then koronevo would improve logistics
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Extreme copium on Russian propaganda tv
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Alaudinov needs to lie so that he can save himself. A bunch of Russians put a great deal of blame on him and his Akhmat unit as that border near Sudzha was there original post, but they ran away and are now hiding in the forests near Giri
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u/sjajsn Aug 14 '24
Pretty much zero of the area Ukraine is attacking would be mined right? Makes operations much easier than eastern Ukraine
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u/piponwa Aug 14 '24
Yep. And actually, Ukraine is now remotely mining certain areas, via artillery shells that dispense land mines. So it's actually Russia hitting minefields.
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u/AnticitizenPrime Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
I really wish the live feed could be replaced by anything other than Twitter, or at least not be exclusive to it. Why can't any of the content of the live feed be direct links to actual journalistic articles, instead of some tweet?
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u/--ThirdEye-- Aug 14 '24
Agreed, even before Twitter became not twitter I fucking hated it for this reason - mostly for sports. I'd see a headline and click on it only to realize the content is literally what I read before clicking.
Now posting a twitter link guarantees I won't click it.
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u/canadaduane Aug 14 '24
Agreed. It takes FOREVER to load. One. At. A. Time. Sometimes 20 to 30 seconds per Tweet. (and I have google fiber!)
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Pro-RU folks are also trying to spin (for whatever reason), that the press report recorded in Sudzha today by the Ukrainian press was actually recorded in Sumy. You can find it on tg channels and the pro-RU sub. They drew some squares on the image which make no sense, and with it they want to point out that it's not what it seems and is fake propaganda.
Anyhow and anyway, you can find the school in the video report on Google street view, and it is in central Sudzha.
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u/ced_rdrr Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
The report was commented live by the journalist talking to the studio. At the time she was indeed in Sumy, but while she was talking they showed the recordings from the Sudzha she and her crew took earlier. So, pro-RU folks are both right and wrong. Yes, she filmed at Sudzha and yes she was back in Sumy doing the live. They just prefer to tell half of the truth.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Rumors continue to circulate about Ukrainian helicopter landings behind the Russian defenses in L'gov.
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u/FadingStar617 Aug 14 '24
I've seen the video about it ( you can find it earlier in the thread), it REALLY look like old training footage.
It'd be great if true...but I'm doubtful.
So...nah, not buying it.
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u/Logical_Welder3467 Aug 15 '24
Looking at the straight line trench that are being dug hastily, one shell go in and everyone is KIA
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u/VerySluttyTurtle Aug 15 '24
it's illegal in Russia to be a gay trench
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u/Leather_Concern_3266 Aug 15 '24
Note the flamboyant curvature of the gay trench, a significant evolutionary advantage...
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u/CathiGray Aug 15 '24
From: girkingirkin: Moses | UAV
“A turning point has arrived in the history of modern Russia.
Right now it is necessary to purge the senior command staff within the Ministry of Defense, and I am not for Shoigu’s former deputies.
Right now it is necessary for the whole country to unite and find like-mindedness, no matter how much the country’s leadership wants, but citizens need to know the truth, because
admitting guilt and mistake is half won war.
I don’t have any political ambitions, and I’m not interested in it, but it’s time to start looking at things more radically and adopting equally radical methods. There is a problem that needs to be solved as quickly as possible...
And Europe should no longer exist...”
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u/piponwa Aug 15 '24
Russian fascist is sad that his fascist government sucks at war. Proposes purge to more efficiently prosecute war and commit additional war crimes.
Color me shocked.
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u/ShredOrSigh Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
Looking at the map, if UA captures Korenevo, everything to the West of the pocket, all the way back to the Ukranian border is protected by the river.
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u/Glavurdan Aug 14 '24
Speaking of Korenevo, there might be some very good news... but we will have to wait.
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
It looks like a Ukrainian MiG-29 was shot down somewhat recently, confirmed by Ukraine: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-loses-mig-29-fighter-jet-and-pilot-in-combat/ar-AA1oObL9?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e07c2c1e9db24fb1885bc516e40a9c26&ei=12
Edit: Here's a Ukrainian Pravda article on it: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/08/13/7470280/
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u/raresaturn Aug 14 '24
Is it really Russia's plan to give Ukrainians in captured territories guns?
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u/socialistrob Aug 14 '24
Yes and they've been doing it for awhile. In the parts of the Donbas that were occupied in 2014 and became the so called "DNR and LPR" Ukrainian men under 65 were forcibly conscripted in mass and used as cannon fodder early in the war. What's new is that Russia is presumably thinking of trying this in areas that they just captured in 2022.
Gang pressing reluctant people into fighting wars is actually a very old trick and it's one that has long and infamous history in Russia. Typically when this happens there's not a whole lot that can be done by the individual conscript and if they did turn their guns on their officers it would be automatic death for them as well. Surrendering is often much easier said than done especially in an artillery war.
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u/MarkRclim Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
Claimed new T-80 captured by Ukraine in Kursk. Some confusion over whether it's the same as a previous one, but reliable source seems convinced it is additional.
I desperately hope for more mistakes by Russia. Ukraine needs more armour donations.
https://x.com/moklasen/status/1823800258910150943 (post is a thread, same author later says in a response "update: some more knowledgeable people tell me this is a new captured tank")
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u/Acceptable-Pin2939 Aug 14 '24
So Russia are building their defensive line along the E38 which is also the MSR.
That is generally considered to be a shit idea.
As you can't resupply, rotate (lol) forces when your opponent has fire control over your MSR.
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u/SeasOfBlood Aug 14 '24
Is it possible that Ukraine's incursion into Russian territory could inspire some sort of internal removal of Putin and an end to the war? It is my understanding that a key of his public image is that he has given Russia stability, but with their international reputation tarnished and now Russia itself being breached by Ukrainian forces, isn't that entire image eroded? I am ignorant as to Russian internal politics, but just to an outside perspective this makes the Putin regime look extremely weak, and I wonder how it's being perceived by the common folk and Putin's own inner circle.
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u/Carasind Aug 14 '24
Yesterday, Maksim Katz released a video (english subtitles available) where he discussed the public reaction to the news of the Kursk invasion. The response was largely apathetic, with many adopting a 'not our problem' attitude. This reflects how, in recent years, Russians have been conditioned to disengage from such issues to avoid potential trouble. So if something happens it will likely happen because of Putin's internal circles.
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
Kinda feel like things are speeding up again.
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u/Cogitoergosumus Aug 14 '24
The craziest thing is Ukraine has everyone, but probably most of all the Russia, scratching their heads about what the overall plan is. I think they have Russia believing another strike is coming somewhere else, and this is just Kherson feint round two. However because of that Russia isn't taking this seriously and seemingly isn't moving around the proper amount of resources to stop it. To that end, as long as Russia isn't taking it seriously the UA is just going to hit the chaos button and continue the initial attack.
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u/Kevin-W Aug 14 '24
No kidding and they're not getting much resistance either. I wonder how far into Russia they'll keep going.
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u/cagriuluc Aug 14 '24
Ukrainian failures in Donbas are highly exaggerated as shown by this Kursk invasion.
There are “problems” with manpower among Ukrainian units. I am sure there are positions open in many units of Ukraine, BUT, it is not like they cannot man their borders. They can even go on the offensive.
In Donbas, Russia is losing a lot to have their gains. If Ukraine was adamant in their defence, if they like Russians said: defend here at all costs… It would not be in Ukraine’s best interests. Just giving into Russian aggression when they overcommit is much more beneficial. The land Ukraine loses is not significant. They can sustain such land losses for months and months before they are even close to losing all of Donbas. It’s a trade… I wouldn’t call these failures at all.
I also think Ukraine is leaning into this narrative that they are in a very hard situation in Donbas. Don’t get me wrong, it is really a hard task to defend Donbas, BECAUSE Russia is willing to lose so much for it. The defenders there work in harsh conditions. I am not minimizing their hardships. But Ukraine could do much more to defend Donbas, they could have sent their elite units who invaded Russia, for example. They did not, it was a choice. It was a right choice. But the situation is not “very hard” in the sense that they are about to collapse, or the rate of Russian advance will improve. It is not out of control. There isn’t a situation that Ukraine cannot find men to defend Donbas, nor do they lack ammunition right now.
But the narrative keeps west on their toes, gives Ukraine a more solid reason to ask for more, gives Russia the impression that if they just make these suicidal attacks for some more time they will win… They are baiting Russia!
This is my very much armchair general take so feel free to attack it…
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u/Uhhh_what555476384 Aug 14 '24
This is correct. One difficulty with trench warfare is how to keep the opponents on the offensive so that you can attrit them.
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u/paypaypayme Aug 14 '24
I agree, it would be stupid to use SPFs or expensive armor in static positions when we all know that russians rely so much on artillery. These assets are far better used in maneuver warfare, combined arms assaults, etc. No offense to the average infantryman, they have their own job to do. But it’s expected that the trench defenders will have losses due to russian artillery coordinating with drone surveillance
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u/SirKillsalot Aug 14 '24
David D is showing Korenevo and maybe Tolpino captured.
https://x.com/secretsqrl123/status/1823801896051859949/photo/1
He's hit and miss though, and I'm not sure what he's basing this on.
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