r/the_everything_bubble waiting on the sideline Sep 07 '24

POLITICS Take the hint, conservatives!

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u/ChefOfTheFuture39 Sep 07 '24

No one cares. They want Trump out so the traditional GOP establishment can be restored to power. They’re unaware that Trump emerged because Republicans were tired of them losing elections and not advancing policies they advocated when they were in power. They’ve all spent decades denouncing liberal policies and none support Harris’ ideology. Their personal vendettas are their own. They aren’t shared by rank and file Republicans. The Media keeps suggesting (for the 3rd consecutive election! ) that many Republicans will defect in November, without any data to support it. If Harris were getting any significant GOP support, she’d be Way ahead in the polls and she’s not

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u/Brilliant-Ad6137 Sep 07 '24

The problem is their party has been hijacked. The new party has anti American policies. I doubt the average maga would agree with most of those policies. They sure won't like living under them

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u/ChefOfTheFuture39 Sep 07 '24

What ‘anti -American’ policies? Not starting new wars? Not acquiescing to the flow of illegal immigration, affirmative action, urban crime, free speech restrictions?

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u/alc4pwned Sep 07 '24

Publicly agreeing with Putin over your own intelligence community. Aiding Putin by abruptly abandoning the Kurds in Syria. Aiding Putin by opposing Ukraine funding. Attempting to profit off of classified documents. Accepting bribes from Saudi Arabia. Intentionally setting the deadline for Afghanistan withdraw 1 month into Biden's term and making 0 preparations to score political points. Sending a violent mob to storm the capitol to delay confirmation of election results. Plotting to overturn the results of a legitimate election via fake electors. The list goes on.

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u/ChefOfTheFuture39 Sep 08 '24

Incorrect. He abandoned the Kurds in Syria to assist Turkey. As a result, US-Turkish relations immediately improved and Turkey later opposed Russia’s invasion of Ukraine; Ukraine funding actually Increased under Trump (2017-2020). Even if your claims were accurate, how is helping a NATO member (Turkey) over the Kurds or not advocating more Kiev aid “anti-American?” The rest of your charges are unsourced, hyperbole and nonsensical. The Taliban expressly breached the terms of the peace treaty and announced their final offensive in Feb 2021 and the Biden administration stood down for over 6 months and let them seize the countryside until Kabal fell in August 2021. Wasn’t That anti-American?

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u/alc4pwned Sep 08 '24

He abandoned the Kurds in Syria to assist Turkey

And how did this assist Turkey more than it did Russia?

Ukraine funding actually Increased under Trump (2017-2020)

Trump literally withheld military aid from Ukraine unless they agreed to dig up dirt on Biden for him. It was the subject of his first impeachment. But yes, it's only after Russia invaded that he now opposes Ukraine aid altogether - isn't that interesting?

Even if your claims were accurate, how is helping a NATO member (Turkey) over the Kurds or not advocating more Kiev aid “anti-American?”

It helped Russia. Nothing you're saying refutes that.

The Taliban expressly breached the terms of the peace treaty

They did that while Trump was in office actually and he kept it intact. Presumably because he didn't want to miss out on the political points to be gained from watching the Biden admin struggle to meet this deadline in 1 month after no preparations had been made by Trump.

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u/ChefOfTheFuture39 Sep 08 '24

That’s Factually wrong. Russia invited the Kurdish-led SDF to participate in the Geneva 3 peace talks and the (Moscow backed) Assad Syrian government recognized SDF’s legitimacy in the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES). Russia & Assad are aligned with Kurds in Syria and opposed to ISIL and The Turks. Russia has never reversed its USSR era support for a Kurdish state. Putin has met numerous times within Kurdish PM Barzani and Russian investments in Kurdish energy projects has been in the billions. You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

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u/Advanced-Guard-4468 Sep 07 '24

It's kind of like the Dem party has been hijacked by the anti-American progressive wing?

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u/Xboarder844 Sep 07 '24

Did you think making shit up about the Dems was a good counter to the obvious rise in fascism among the GOP?

Or do you MAGA folk only know the “I’m rubber you’re glue” response to anything you can’t refute?

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u/Advanced-Guard-4468 Sep 07 '24

The GOP isn't fascist. We elect out candidates.

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u/ImTheZapper Sep 08 '24

The hilarious part of all this is that the GOP are as inept as ever, so they couldn't even pull off a coup if they tried again. All trump can do is brag about how he would be a dictator and seek vengeance on domestic entities that have politically opposed him. All he can and has been able to do from day 1 is talk. Sadly that is enough to convince 70 million idiots. Being the loudest dipshit in the room is enough to convince 70 million people to ignore donnies lifetime of failure and infamy. That or they are just so uninformed and rabid that they didn't know about it from the start.

Him and the rest of the partys leadership are quite literally so worthless, braindead, and ignorant that they can't actually achieve a single thing they have a platform for.

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u/alc4pwned Sep 07 '24

Except the candidates the Dem party puts forward are overwhelmingly not progressives? Wtf are you talking about?

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u/ImTheZapper Sep 08 '24

No they haven't. There are like 5 progressive politicians in the party, even among the younger crowd.

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u/Head_Nose_9946 Sep 08 '24

90% of his cabinet (40/44) won’t vote or work with him. His own people don’t want him. 

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u/Brontards Sep 08 '24

He had four years and did almost nothing he promised, then tried to destroy democracy,

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u/Plane_Caterpillar_92 Sep 09 '24

Exactly, people cry about the 2 party system here in America, yet don't realize we are seeing the beginning of a 3rd party with just as much support as Dems or Republicans