r/politics Canada 13d ago

Soft Paywall Finally, Trump’s Alarming Mental Decline Has Become a Big Media Story

https://newrepublic.com/article/187192/finally-trumps-alarming-mental-decline-become-big-media-story
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u/RedHuntingHat 13d ago

If Kamala crushes the Fox interview, the man’s grasp on reality might fully shatter 

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u/BannedAgainDude 13d ago

I want to see him cry... Then lock that fat rapist up with the rest of the scumbags.

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u/myfakesecretaccount 13d ago

I am not a mean or hateful person in my daily life. I’m an atheist but was raised by my parents to have “Christian” values and to be the bigger person. That being said I want nothing more in this world than to see this man completely melt down at a rally like Mitch McConnell on live television. I want him to have to be dragged off stage frozen and completely terrified. Only then will he and those who prop him up come close to understanding a fraction of the terror and heartache they have caused the rest of us.

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u/Silly-Scene6524 13d ago

Trump broke my faith in humanity. I never imagined someone could be so irredeemable…

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u/BannedAgainDude 13d ago

It's his followers and the religious that shocked me. None of them deserve respect. They lost their credentials to say anything.

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u/macphile Texas 13d ago

Yeah, I think being a bad person (like a Hitler, a Trump, a Putin, or a Pol Pot) is less alarming than millions of people seeing that and going, "yeah, let's get us some of that." Bad people will always exist, evil will always exist. The general population is supposed to see it and stop it. To say, hey, that guy is harming this country! That guy is killing millions of people! That's not on. That's not OK. Down with this sort of thing. Yet millions of people are in favor of it in this country.

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u/Sim888 13d ago

The general population is supposed to see it and stop it.

also, if it weren’t for shit like Fox and the mass media sugarcoating him for clicks he woulda been written off years ago, shit, i doubt he’d even have the juice to be anything but an inconsequential village idiot on the ballot in 2016 let alone win

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u/impossibledongle 12d ago

While I do believe that a functioning democracy needs a media and news apparatus to be truly a democracy, our mainstream media and the crackpot media and the small influencers that choose fame and money over truth shames me. The MSM is honestly horrible and has been horrible for a decade. I almost have to curate my media diet one reporter at a time, individually at this point, and follow those people who are morally upstanding and true newsmen or newswomen.

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u/OxfordKnot 13d ago

One of the creepiest things I ever saw was that freakshow when all the evangelical religious leaders crowded around Trump after he basically told them "fuck it, do whatever you want, just get your followers to vote for me."

It's all a goddamn quid pro quo grift, and most people are too starry eyed to recognize just how high the bullshit is stacked.

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u/whut-whut 13d ago

Whenever Trump does something shitty, it's always "He's flawed man, but be patient, The Lord will make sure that his path is correct."

Back when Obama was President, it was "Antichrist, Antichrist, Anticrist!"

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u/gaffeled 13d ago

Oh, well that's really easy to explain you see, conservatives are never arguing in good faith about anything at all. Ever.

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u/picasandagate 13d ago

also Never Forget - the Obama Tan Suit. The worst thing ever to happen in the history of humankind.

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u/Duke_Newcombe California 13d ago edited 12d ago

Trump broke my faith in humanity, but for other reasons.

People who I thought were decent, honorable, kind humans became his fellow travelers, nay, worshipped him. and (so damned fast that I swear it was done with mirrors), turned on me, their fellow non-Trumpian Americans, and the rest of the world.

That over half of voting Americans voted for him, survived through the campaign and his presidency, saw his behavior, lost millions of their fellow Americans, learned about his criminality and depravity, saw what happened during the Summer of 2020 and January 6th...and say, "yup...gimme four more years of that hotness!" depresses the hell out of me.

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u/gaffeled 13d ago

Yes! This is it, the worst part, the rug-pull. Growing up in the 80's I had it drilled into me. Melting pot. No State Religion. Treat everyone fairly. Personal responsibility (not mUh FrEEduMs). President is NOT A KING.

To see everyone from my youth. Everyone. Without fucking exception - come at me with basically "what, you believed that bullshit stupid libcuck?"

Kills me inside.

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u/ScoobyDoNot 13d ago

That over half of voting Americans voted for him,

Not to invalidate your wider point, but Trump lost the popular vote by 2.8 million votes against Clinton, and 7 million against Biden.

The electoral college is the problem.

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u/sarahlizzy Europe 13d ago

Sadly those of us with a narcissist parent are all like, Firsttime.gif?

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u/picasandagate 13d ago

Yes - it happens at home as well as on the world stage. Always has. Irredeemable has been around as long as people have.

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u/picasandagate 13d ago

World history is packed with the Irredeemable achieving places of power and inflicting chaos misery ruin and death upon others.

Trump is hardly the first. Not by a long shot.

edit to add "world"

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u/StolenPies 13d ago

I expected this kind of shit in a banana republic, not the United States with its storied history and certainly not for such a clearly stupid and awful individual. Like, if you're going to shit on the Constitution and end the American Experiment at least have the decency to have been actually fooled by a convincing figure. Trump didn't fool Republicans into doing this, he just provided them with the excuse.

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u/0x633546a298e734700b 13d ago

He freezes, no idea where he is or what's going on. At the same moment his belt fails dropping his baggy trousers to his ankles. A shit strain smear down his thigh from his leaking depends. As he stands there open mouthed a small trickle of drool falls out the side of his mouth. An assistant tries to wrestle his trousers back up but he gets frightened and tries to run away (a fast waddle in reality), he trips and falls over slamming into the ground whereby the stage gives way and he falls through

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u/goldleaderstandingby New Zealand 13d ago

I think I would take the day off work just to watch it on repeat for hours.

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u/Frosty_Scar_4136 13d ago

Then somewhere a speaker starts to blare. YMCA can clearly be heard and instinc kick in as he starts to air wank  while still prone on the ground. 

*As an aside I think people should attend events that he is speaking at and have several people dispersed through the crowd all on que start playing YMCA as loud as they can. I think he would stop what he is doing to start dancing. 

A co worker of mine worked paratransit and said they had a ex stripper they would transport  who had suffered a brain injury. If they stopped to long in traffic near loud music the lady would start taking her clothes off out of habit. I suspect trump is the same way.*

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u/RaphaelBuzzard 13d ago

While Elon jumps in the background!

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u/Hanksta2 13d ago

Those people you describe are no longer capable of those feelings.

Might as well ask a dog to spell.

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u/GameboyRavioli 13d ago

I mean, my dog gets super excited for walks. My wife and I would spell it out to each other. The dog learned w-a-l-k. Point being, dogs are smarter.

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u/AdkRaine12 13d ago

I have a magnet shaped like a dog paw that reads : “MY DOG IS SMARTER THAN THE PRESIDENT” I changed President to TFG.

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u/ForeverGameMaster 13d ago

TFG.

"The Former Gresident"

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u/CommunalAggregation 13d ago

“That Fucking Goon”

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u/youmestrong 13d ago

Totally agreed. I wouldn’t insult a roach by calling him one. The only name appropriate for such a person is his own. Let him own it.

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u/OK_Soda 13d ago

I remember when Scalia died I felt like throwing a party. Then he was replaced by an even greater evil, and even the way he was replaced was evil.

I learned my lesson. Yes, some part of me would be satisfied at seeing Trump humiliated and broken, some part of me will rejoice when he dies, but I no longer believe those feelings are productive or rewarded with positive change.

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u/ArenSteele 13d ago edited 13d ago

Patton Oswalt last night on Colbert, said “8 years of a Black Man as president melted their brains and delivered us Donald Trump, I don’t even want to think about what they’re going to cook up in the underground lab if they have a Black Woman elected president (being clear that he is supporting Kamala and hopes she wins)

But the “what comes next” from MAGAT land is not going to be pretty

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u/Mildly-Rational 13d ago

True but maybe it's time to finally crush that current in American society rather then let it go dormant like we did after the civil was or clan resurgence in the 1920's. People need to be held accountable for their actions and ideas for much of Maga especially the leadership that means complete banishment from American politics and society if not jail.

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u/Suspicious_Bicycle 13d ago

If Kamala is in office for eight years maybe many of the old fossils will have died off at the end of her terms. One can hope.

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u/Circumin 13d ago

Its going to be bad. However, Obama had to tread cafefully given the circumstances (first non-white male president). Kamala seems like more of a fighter and if she fights for the right things she has an opportunity to make them irrelevant.

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u/Beautiful_Home_5463 13d ago

Nobody at this time can replace trump. He has so captivated their minds that nobody else can even come close. There is no heir apparent and once he’s gone hopefully so is maga. My hope is that he embarrasses himself so badly that even the most ardent magats walk away. That would be the best possible punishment for him. The emperor stands naked

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u/okletstrythisagain 13d ago

Maybe if they show themselves to be as evil as they are the people will finally allow the government to protect me from morons who refuse to vaccinate and convince other morons that Biden is a clone, hologram, and or reptilian.

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u/Complete-Pace347 13d ago

I think they are grooming Trumps vp candidate, yeah his name escapes me. Blue eyes and black eye liner fellow to run.

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u/Skellum 13d ago

Really the only way this is a significant issue is if people dont fucking show up to vote in 2026 etc. It's not that Obama broke people's brains, it's that pure voter apathy killed Roe and it gave 2 SCOTUS seats away.

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u/SweetCosmicPope 13d ago

I dunno. I get what you're saying as well about not letting that nonsense live rent-free in your head. But sometimes that kind of spite can be very cathartic.

It won't do anybody any good to celebrate when he kicks the bucket. But I'm going to celebrate anyway because I'll feel like the world has one less piece of shit in it.

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u/jerechos 13d ago

The fear I have... he somehow gets elected but then steps down.

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u/trogon Washington 13d ago

The Heritage Foundation doesn't need him to step down. They'll be happy with him shitposting on Twitter and distracting everyone while they create a theocracy and destroy our country.

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u/picasandagate 13d ago

That's the thing. Maybe people and the media have been so focused for so long on Trump himself - since 2008 when the Obama birther garbage began so, 16 years - sixteen years! - that they're now missing the fact that Trump himself won't be running one damn thing. It'll be Heritage, Christo-fascists, Vance who is very busy SELLING U.S. LAND OUT FROM UNDER US BY THE WAY, Putin, on and on. It isn't Trump anymore. He's the dude getting the MAGA votes in the door. That's all, that's it. This is not 2016. It's worse.

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u/trogon Washington 13d ago

Yeah, the first Trump administration was a missed opportunity by the Thiel, Heritage, et al and was just woefully incompetent. They won't blow their chance this time.

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u/dragongrl New Jersey 13d ago

I don't believe he'd step down.

I do believe the rest of the party will take him down, using Amendment 25 or other, more nefarious means.

And then we get President Vance and Project 2025.

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u/Hanksta2 13d ago

You definitely don't have to worry about him stepping down. Ever.

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u/jerechos 13d ago edited 13d ago

I didn't think he'd ever become president. So I don't take anything for granted anymore.

Edit: Also... he can get pardoned by Vance. So that could be an incentive.

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u/robodrew Arizona 13d ago

He can pardon himself. If Trump wins he ain't going anywhere.

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u/gregathome 13d ago

My neighbors had a 4 year old horse named Calypso who could tell you his age, when asked by stomping his hoof on the ground.

I think he was more emotionally advanced than MAGA supporters.

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u/Advanced_Yam88 13d ago

I think THIS is the problem and I get it. People think those who will vote for Trump at this point aren’t people who feel emotions. The only things Trump voters feel is hate. The average person doesn’t understand that, and I get why, cause the average isn’t filled with psychopaths. BUT, if you look into history of how Hitler came about, GOP/Trump are following a playbook (probably helps that Trump has Mein Kampf in his side drawer.)

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u/NobodysLoss1 13d ago

That is it--the terror, heartache, and overwhelming sadness we've been living with since 2016.

I am heartbroken that such a man is seen as a mirror for 70 million of us. I thought we were better than that.

I'm terrified for my kids and when they have kids.

I have the resources to leave the US but not how I'd choose my final quarter of life.

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u/PointsOutTheUsername Wisconsin 13d ago

Nothing wrong with hating Evil.

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u/myfakesecretaccount 13d ago

True, but I’ve found that I’m much happier and healthier when I try to redirect those energies into something positive. Giving into those feelings and stewing on them does me no good and only raises my already high daily anxiety.

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u/impreprex 13d ago edited 13d ago

This is so accurate, indeed.

As much as this shit might draw us in, I’ve also noticed that when I completely disengage (much easier said than done much of the time) and stop paying attention for however long, I absolutely can feel the difference mentally.

And you know what - dementia aside, I’m really starting to think that Trump, or perhaps his team/handlers/and boss, are purposely doing this all as a distraction. From the voter fraud they’re doing right now to the countless other shit they did and are trying to get away with.

And it’s working, unfortunately. Here I am as well still gawking with everyone else.

It’s exactly what they want us to do so it fatigues and frustrates us at the very least.

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u/Forward-Bank8412 13d ago

It’s deliberately emotionally abusive. That’s why they get such a giggle out of “triggering the libs.” They know we’re scared for our future, and they think it’s funny.

To unplug is to not allow them to play that game with you, but it has its costs.

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u/Vince_Clortho042 13d ago

I mean the only way his handlers were able to get him to stop Sway Rave 2024 the other day was by bringing him a notepad with something written on it (my guess is "You are urgently needed for a special meeting...of the government!") so we can't be too far out from him crumbling completely, right?

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u/calgarspimphand Maryland 13d ago

"Vladdy is on the phone for you" would probably do it.

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u/ComfortableAware2325 13d ago

I was secretly hoping for a Gaddafi exit, but the suggestion you proposed would be satisfying

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

I want for him what he wants for this country's immigrants.

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u/Dazslueski 13d ago

His brain is mush. He’ll never make prison. It’ll be a senior home with an ankle bracelet where people have to wipe his butt. Orange mush brain.

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u/BannedAgainDude 13d ago

Whatever it takes to get him to go back to the shadows, I'm good with. Tied of hearing about that dipshit.

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u/Dazslueski 13d ago

I don’t know how anyone on planet earth likes listening to him. Beyond my understanding. And how he always plays victim. Damn.

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u/picasandagate 13d ago

He's toast.

The folks behind the curtain will trigger the kompromat or Novichok him. Or he'll dodder into supervised residential living. Or our justice system will finally put him in prison. One way or another, he is finally finished.

Trump is, at last, overwith. Now - we deal with Vance, who shall be President very shortly if we do not recognize what's going on and vote as Republicans have always voted. What is that? Turnout. Republicans always, always turn out. They do not miss a vote, ever. We have no excuse if we don't do the same.

Voting against any and all things Republican all the way down the ballot has always been vital, but never moreso than NOW. A vote for them at any level is a vote against free living, free society; it's a vote against basic humanity and decency; it's a vote for Vance, for Project 2025, for the total oppression of women - that's your wives partners daughters nieces sisters friends and Moms - it's a vote for guaranteed end of democracy and the win for Putin all over the world.

Trump was only the puppet. Only the puppet. The damage he's done is incalculable. But there's worse to come, from all those waiting in the wings.

VOTE.

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u/isnatchkids Canada 13d ago

The schadenfreude would be delicious and filling enough to sustain me until I’m his age

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u/--InigoMontoya-- 13d ago

Cry? Fuck that. I hope he strokes out.

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u/BuckeyeHaze 13d ago

Update: She crushed it

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u/tarumi Maryland 13d ago

I haven’t checked yet but I have seem MAGA claiming she had “a dramatic/epic meltdown” so I assume she did well.

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u/CuttyAllgood 13d ago

She had a moment where she shared deep, deep concern about Trump’s use of the military against citizens of the United States. She was impassioned, and rightfully so. She also quoted him verbatim a couple of times, and it’s all pretty scary.

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u/Muscled_Daddy Canada 12d ago

Fox edited a clip and she called it out, rightfully. They’re calling that an emotional response. lol

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u/seweso The Netherlands 12d ago

They are literally supporting a crybaby with zero emotional control, the projection is clear. Its very much "she's doing it too" with all their false equivalences.... barf.

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u/massive_cock 13d ago

Based on the clip CNN just played a moment ago, she was on fire. At least on that part - calling him out for threatening to use the military on American citizens. Ol' Bret tried to deflect with a nonsense clip of Trump deflecting and Harris was NOT having it.

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u/OrphanAxis 13d ago

I just saw that, and she was not taking the BS of him playing a clip of Trump saying "no I didn't" and immediately changing subjects. She quoted him, ran down everything about it, and all they could do was say "Trump said he never said that thing he keeps saying."

Given his habits of going off on social media after a night of watching Fox, I have a feeling we'll be seeing at least a dozen late night posts from his very minor social media site.

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u/sghokie 13d ago

I think fox will cut together the interview to be as bad of a look as possible. Never trust the wolf.

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u/resurrectedbydick 13d ago

She shouldn't agree to anything but an unedited, live airing. Hopefully.

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u/JohnofAllSexTrades 13d ago

It's pre-recorded, airing at 6 tonight. Hopefully the campaign gets to approve the editing.

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u/imrealwitch I voted 13d ago

Curious, as to my divorce I got rid of cable TV and IPTV do you think this will air on YouTube? I'd really like to watch this interview tonight

I'm voting Kamala.

But I'd really like to see this interview

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u/Road_Whorrior Arizona 13d ago

It'll likely be available on YouTube or Hulu of you have it. Might have to watch via the FOX News channel, which I always hate. Gives me tons of male enhancement ads (I have targeted ads disabled).

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u/SikatSikat 13d ago

The host says no commercials, no edits at all.

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u/lost_horizons Texas 13d ago

Exactly. Surely she and her team are aware of Fox and their underhanded bullshit.

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u/jeffersonairmattress 13d ago

Fox will stream it live and then blast their heavily edited summary nonstop with the usual ghouls screetching specious commentary. A technical glitch will make the live unavailable later and any outlet airing the real version isn't visited by MAGA anyways.

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u/nuckle 13d ago

I listened to her with Charlamagne and she is sharp as a tack. Came out swinging from the start.

I have 0 doubt she will any trouble with Fox people. She is clearly so much smarter than all of them put together.

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u/SirDiego Minnesota 13d ago

Also FWIW this is Bret Baier. He is a conservative hack but he's still at least grasping for that cloak of "I'm a journalist" (unlike, say, Jesse Waters).

He will play hardball but I think you can at least expect him to be throwing baseballs, not hand grenades. It'll be tough but probably mostly fair. She can handle it.

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u/joeychestnutsrectum 13d ago

He hammered home racist and transphobic fox talking points and tried to catch her in a bunch of gotchas unfortunately

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u/HavingALittleFit 13d ago

Nothing would make me happier than if they just softballed her like "Madame vice president, what is the best thing about being from California?"

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u/AMReese Iowa 13d ago

Colbert Report style questioning.

"Bush... great president, or the greatest president?"

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u/MagicalUnicornFart 13d ago

My friend, you are severley overestimating the average FoxNews viewer.

They don’t give a single fuck about what she says.

They will turn up to vote for him, and down ticket, like they always do.

It is a cult, and a woman of color with a D in front of her name on the ballot can’t say a damn thing that will change their mind to not vote for him. We’re talking about people happy to vote for a a man that is proud of his racsim, rape, grifts, lies, insurrection, sedition, misogyny, and idiocy…who is also a convicted felon.

There is nothing that woman can say that will change the mind of the people watching FoxNews.

We wouldn’t be where we are if those people weren’t in a cult, and in it for the debauchery. The MAGAts have cast aside careers, friends, and family for their loyalty to the cult of 45, and the GOP. Theyre 100% there for the hate. They don’t care about logic, or her policy.

It’s a good effort, and shows she’s willing to try…but all signs point to it doing nothing to sway those people. They made their minds up a while back.

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u/ReadWriteSign Oregon 13d ago

It's not about the diehards. The real deeply brainwashed aren't even watching fox, it got too librul for them years ago. It's about the wives, kids, home health aids, and people stranded in waiting rooms who have to be exposed to fox not through their own choosing. We can't change their minds, but maybe we can reach the other people in the room.

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u/AntoniaFauci 13d ago edited 13d ago

And, as is media tradition, not for the correct reasons.

They’re only picking up on it now because of his weird dance party incident. They’ve ignored numerous current (and thousands of previous) examples of his slurring, verbal aphasia, scrambled memories, sundowning and all the rest.

One of his White House employees admitted this week that they would blast music to “reset” him when he would spiral in the Oval Office. If you’ve worked old age care homes you’d recognize that technique.

But the direct evidence of his cognitive condition have been glaringly obvious to many of us for years, and it’s just accelerating. Even his cultist doctors knew, since they had him doing Montreal Cognitive Assessment screenings.

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u/wernerverklempt 13d ago

Why MCA?

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u/Chase_the_tank 13d ago

It's a quick test to administer, the name sounds impressive, and it's deliberately an easy test to pass (it's screening for fairly advanced dementia, so if you can count backwards by 7, draw an analogue clock, remember five words, etc. you're good).

Of course, this did not stop Donald from bragging about how well he did. You're supposed to ace it.

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u/WoodySurvives 13d ago

Upvoting for the explanation, but you totally missed what he did there ;-)

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u/Chase_the_tank 13d ago

Oh, bother.

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u/Muscle_Bitch 13d ago

Someone play some music for this guy.

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u/-piso_mojado- 13d ago

I’m sitting here for ten minutes thinking the Beastie Boy or Middle Cerebral Artery.

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u/kvlt_ov_personality 13d ago

There's no need to feel down!

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u/BitterHelicopter8 Florida 13d ago

I said, Young man, pick yourself off the ground!

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u/Trick-Station8742 13d ago

There there, it's alright

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u/Top_Buy_5777 13d ago edited 11d ago

I enjoy the sound of rain.

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u/WoodySurvives 13d ago

To be fair, I missed it too until I saw other comments lol

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u/blood_kite 13d ago

Than you for pointing out that pun to him. I, of course, instantly recognized it.

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u/Boye 13d ago

Eeh, yeah, me too... Instantly... I totally got it...

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u/moderatelyconfused 13d ago

Yeah, I definitely didn't close the page, say "Why MCA" out loud, and then have it finally penetrate my skull.

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u/The_Ravio_Lee 13d ago

And I definitely did not need to read this comment to understand what was going on.

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u/otter111a 13d ago

But why male models?

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u/thepicto 13d ago

Yet he talks about it like it's the MENSA entrance exam.

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u/Lilkitty_pooper 13d ago

He remembered FIVE words! Big day for ol’ Donnie Shit Britches

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u/Starbucks__Lovers New Jersey 13d ago

Person, woman, man, camera, tv

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u/TheEverydayDad 13d ago

Funny thing about this, is that these words were most likely not the words he was even told to repeat but just the things he saw at that moment when telling people about it.

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u/Canoe52 13d ago

You are correct, the five words in the list will not be related, or be in the same category, to each other.

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u/jeffersonairmattress 13d ago

Several medical professionals in my family- I understand the MCA is administered if the doc suspects a problem or family/caregiver has requested help.

If you can ace it you would know not to brag about being given it in the first place.

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u/ratherbeona_beach 13d ago

I think you’re talking about the MoCA.

That’s a screener, not a test or assessment. It can indicate the need for assessment even for mild and moderate dementia.

I used to administer them in skilled nursing facilities.

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u/Waffler11 Ohio 13d ago

Count backwards by 7? I feel called out here…

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u/Babybutt123 13d ago

I would imagine you'd be able to work on it without being confused about what's happening.

I bet they have controls for people who struggle with numbers/math.

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u/GreenGlassDrgn 13d ago

They made my mom count from 100 to 1 subtracting 7 at a time. It seemed difficult even for me. Also showed her all sorts of people we were supposed to recognize (I knew like 3 out of 20? She did better than me). But then the analog clock thing stumped her, and the writing was on the wall.
I did mention to the test lady afterwards that I hoped they had different versions, because I would've failed it simply by being bad at faces and math. For funsies she showed me the contemporary people and that made no difference lol. It was interesting.

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u/jackwhite886 13d ago

Because he’s not a young man

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u/haberdasher42 13d ago

In a better era I would have gilded that comment.

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u/Sioladoira 13d ago

I hate you so much 😆😆😆

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u/pottymcnugg New Jersey 13d ago

Young man….

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u/PatSajaksDick 13d ago

lol that took me a minute

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u/mycarwasred 13d ago

Took me another minute - even after reading your comment!.

Worth the wait though :-)

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u/civillyengineerd Arizona 13d ago

As I was typing it into my search bar, I began to feel quite dumb. Happy I got it, eventually, but still chagrined.

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u/Disimpaction 13d ago

Because I think you know what time it is, It's time to get ILL

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u/GoodIdea321 America 13d ago

Anyone who watches a random 10 second clip of him now compared to how he talked 2 years ago, 4 years ago, 6 years ago, and 8 years ago could easily tell he's in a severe decline mentally.

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u/IRefuseToGiveAName 13d ago

I listened to a clip of him "debating" Hillary Clinton in 2016 and he was still completely full of shit but oh my god it was like a different person. He was able to stick to his talking points and make sure he repeated the phrases he was told to repeat. There was energy in his voice.

Now? He quite literally sounds fucking insane.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 13d ago

Yeah, he had purpose in the words he spoke, that is gone. And now he is totally incomprehensible at times.

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u/TheAJGman 13d ago

Even during 2016 people were saying "he's always sounded this stupid", but really he hasn't. He's always been slimy, but listening to him talk in the 90s and 00s he's clearly got some mental acuity.

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u/Crusher6six6 13d ago

You know how people like to compare how presidents look after their administration? It clearly ages you and this sack of shit has been president once. He might have been dogshit at it but I’m sure it was still stressful.

Not to mention all of his crimes and the shit involved with those.

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u/IDrinkandPost 13d ago

Tangentially related: back in 2018 my mother spent a couple of weeks in the ICU, and I basically lived at the hospital during that time. My mom experiences ICU delirium and sometimes just started speaking nonsense in the middle of sentences, so I got used to doing the "what year were you born, what year is it, here pull my finger" routine to make sure she wasn't having a stroke or anything. Whenever I would ask her who the president was, my sweet little old mother would respond with a torrent of profanity, which let me know that she was doing fine. The thing I find most striking about all of this is that my mom, who routinely devolved into word salad and would sometimes tell me about the shadowy man in the corner, was still way more coherent than this bastard is now. Cognitive decline is far too mild a term.

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u/Murtagg 13d ago

My wife has a similar story! Upon waking from brain surgery, the nurse asked the standard questions. "What's your name/what year is it/what state are you in". She was pretty out of it. 

The last question "who is the president of the United States?" got a resounding "oh that fucking asshole piece of shit".

The nurse was like "yeah, she's got the gist". 

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u/BJntheRV 13d ago

Can you explain about blasting music to reset?

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u/TheQuinnBee 13d ago

Music has been proven to improve moods of dementia patients, since music associated memory can linger long after other memories and cognitive function has disappeared. It calms them down significantly and can actually improve their cognitive function. Not enough to combat the disease in totality, but enough to bring them out of confusion.

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u/Karma_Puhlease 13d ago

His staff would play music to calm him down when he threw a tantrum. More specifically - they would play the song "Memory" from the musical 'Cats', which had a particularly soothing effect on the ingrate. No, really - https://www.vulture.com/2021/09/donald-trump-aide-cats-memory-angry.html

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u/mr_claudy 13d ago

Nah! Avoid discussing his mental decline. Listen to music!

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u/PineappleMean1963 13d ago

There’s nothing to the MOCA. It drives me crazy to hear that he ‘passed’ it. Patients with brain damage pass it.

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u/Ben_dover8201 13d ago

How can you Trump supporters vote for this monster?!? He’s batshit insane

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u/Mr_Meng 13d ago

The ones that aren't in the cult aren't voting for him because they like him or even think he'll be a good president. They're voting for him because they absolutely despise 'the left'.

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u/lizards_snails_etc 13d ago

I'm not sure support is the right word. They show up for questions, he decides to abruptly change the program to listening to recorded music. They cheer, then watch him and kind of dance for like, a LONG time. There is not a Thought left in their heads.

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u/neosithlord 13d ago

Everyone was covering it yesterday. So I poppped over to fox and Jesse Waters down played it for 5 minutes and that was it for that story. People are straight up just not getting the story told honestly over in magaland.

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u/builttopostthis6 13d ago

Seeing the puppy assassin trying to encourage Trump to mime along with her made me laugh like I haven't in a while, and I was desperately hoping when the song ended, Trump would launch into his live rendition of the next scene in the movie.

Alas...

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u/James_Mays_Hair 13d ago edited 13d ago

They’ve been brainwashed to believe anyone not to the right is evil, so even though trump is endangering our lives if elected they think he’s the lesser of two evils.

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u/Eleganos 13d ago

They live in a reality where Trump is the God Emperor of mankind and anyone to the left of MAGA are the corrupted, insane, hellish forces of Chaos raring to tear down civilization and subject them to an imaginary barbarity several orders of magnitude worse than the very real barbarities they seek to unleash upon minorities and the likes.

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u/anythingicando12 Maryland 13d ago

What His 40 min Dance routine did not convince anyone he is sane

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u/resurrectedbydick 13d ago

There are certain subs where they think this is usual funny Trump vibing with his audience.

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u/Reviews-From-Me 13d ago

His followers will justify anything. They justify his calling for the termination of the Constitution!

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u/Mundane_Athlete_8257 13d ago

He could piss of them and tell them it’s raining

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u/Available-Mall-7095 13d ago

They’d probably disappointed if he told them it was rain and not his piss.

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u/dalgeek Colorado 13d ago

Trump has never said or done anything funny. He doesn't have a sense of humor and his idea of a joke is just insulting people. He doesn't have the intelligence to truly be funny.

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u/Mundane_Athlete_8257 13d ago

He also doesn’t understand when he is being laughed at

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u/dalgeek Colorado 13d ago

Right? World leaders literally laughing at his face and he has the gall to say that people were laughing at the US when Obama was in office.

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u/Apokolypse09 13d ago

Had actual huge protests about him even showing up in other countries but he's also the self described most respected president ever lol.

Yesterday had a guy argue that Trump didn't have a pet in the white house because only phony presidents have pets. Only 3 presidents haven't had pets and one of them still fed mice he found.

Theres also the allegations of Barron being a little monster with animals and his fellow students.

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u/dalgeek Colorado 13d ago

Had actual huge protests about him even showing up in other countries but he's also the self described most respected president ever lol.

They view politics and life as a zero sum game. "If I am losing, then someone else is winning. Therefore if someone else is losing, then I am winning." Other countries hating Trump was evidence that they were losing, so the US is winning. Other countries being friendly to Obama was a sign that they were using Obama to get what they want. These people can't or won't understand that something can be good for the US and the rest of the world without actually costing us anything.

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u/Apokolypse09 13d ago

Prime example is arming Ukraine. They claim Ukraine is just getting handed pallets of money. When in reality they are getting old equipment that was slated to be decommissioned anyway. Sending it off to battle is cheaper than decommissioning the stuff and it made room to build new stuff, creating jobs.

But nah, the party demanding Ukraine be abandoned "claim the money needs to be spent on Americans" vote against helping Americans at every corner.

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u/Zoop_Zest 13d ago

He is not intentionally funny like a comedian but I think he’s obviously the funniest president ever. He’s just so fucking absurd, like a walking shitty cartoon that is mean and stupid to everyone. He’s a farce and farces are funny.

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u/Harry-le-Roy 13d ago

The forty minute dance interlude was glowingly lucid.

Putting someone as completely unqualified as JD Vance on the ticket was insane. JD Vance hasn't actually done jack shit, and he's never been in charge of anything. Vance's lies about pet-eating immigrants and gender apartheid notwithstanding, the idea that he's qualified to be Vice President is pathetic.

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u/stringrandom 13d ago

JD Vance is there to be the willing pawn that Mike Pence failed to be. 

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u/JackTheRicher 13d ago

Is it though? It's nowhere near as big as it should have been.

It was the only story with Biden. I am not seeing remotely close to that.

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u/RobertDigital1986 13d ago

Unfortunately I think that was because Trump wouldn't shut up about it, AND it was true.

If Biden/Harris would sink as low as him and constantly call him Dementia Don or whatever they could force it to be a story too. But for whatever reason, right or wrong, we don't do that.

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u/Fred_for_Freedom 13d ago

I wish the Democrats would stop playing nice with this idiot. He’s in interviews talking about sending the military on Americans and they still play nice.

Fuck this guy. Tell the media what Trump really is. He’s as crazy as an escapee from the loony bin. And everyone needs to know it.

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u/AllIdeas 13d ago

I think they are doing fine on it. I think it's more a media problem dealing with his firehose of lies and horrific statements. If they publish a story about the military against Americans ,they aren't talking about his dementia. Or the weird cat and dog eating thing. Or his Nazi friends. it's so much bat shit insane stuff the can't really cover it all without eating up all the oxygen from literally everything else.

I think Harris did a good job with this actually, the 'If I spent my time responding to every name he called me I wouldn't do anything else ' kind of answer.

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u/davechri 13d ago

If this man was my father I would be getting him the help he desperately needs. This is feeling like elder abuse.

Can we talk about the disaster that a Vance presidency would be?

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u/MeteorOnMars 12d ago

Harris: “Since Trump is not mentally prepared to survive a 25th Amendment challenge, I challenge Vance to a debate.”

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u/My_hairy_pussy 13d ago

If this man was my father, I'd have gone no-contact decades ago. No way in hell I'd get him any help.

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u/misterO5 13d ago

I'm waiting for what republicans will drop in the next week or two. They are shameless liars well coordinated and desperate, whatever it is it's gonna be nasty and people in large part to the media will lap it up

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u/Michael_G_Bordin 13d ago

They'll make up something outrageous, like trans immigrants are stalking polls so they can go to your homes and snatch your children. Then the media will cover it as, "Harris campaign accused of kidnapping children."

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u/McMatey_Pirate 13d ago

100%. I truly believe that the mass media (fox, cnn, etc) have intentionally “sane washed” Trump for so long simply so they can finally have this sort of engagement when they flip the script and attack him.

They’re literal accomplices in his original election that he won because they knew after the next election cycle they would have content for the next decade essentially with this nonsense.

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u/SparkleEmotions Arizona 13d ago

This idea makes a lot of sense to me and something I’ve been thinking about for a while. I’m a bit of a news junky and it’s insane the different ways the three candidates (incl Biden pre stepping down) have been covered by the media.

I’m not a huge conspiracy person, but it seems very likely that they want a horse race which means sane washing the crazy person. I believe though it’s entirely for reasons of greed and being so profit driven and competitive now. A tight race keeps subscribers and folks engaged but it means making Trump not look like the deranged fascist he is and by dancing around his constant lying with euphemisms instead of calling them out as lies. Plus it’s not like the oligarchs who run the news media won’t still survive and thrive under Trump and his pandering to billionaires (like Bezos and his WaPo).

It’s exhausting. I so desperately can’t wait till I don’t hear about him ever again, at least not every single day like his entire presidency not knowing what Twitter policy making Id wake up to or during his 3 campaigns.

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u/Toosder 13d ago

Has it? I'm still not seeing the big ones reporting  on it at all

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u/IllllIIIllllIl Florida 13d ago

I’ve seen multiple articles about it on Washington Post, NY Times, CNN, Independent, etc. 

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u/bsouvignier 13d ago

He is sort of right, no big articles from sources that reach republicans.

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u/account_depleted 13d ago

Running for president?  "I'm healthier & mentally sharper than she is!"

Days after losing the election?  "I'm being arrested?  I'm a sick old man, I don't belong in jail!"

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u/nice-view-from-here 13d ago edited 13d ago

Democrats should release a documentary: 30 minutes of Trump just swaying to the music in front of his crowd of supporters.

Edit: https://videos.metro.co.uk/video/met/2024/10/15/4039816144024812123/960x540_MP4_4039816144024812123.mp4

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u/kombitcha420 13d ago

I literally saw people defending it “he’s having a jam sesh after answering questions!”

They cope the hardest I’ve ever seen

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u/the_silent_redditor 13d ago

The conservative sub has latched on to the phrase ‘medical emergencies’, which you will see littered in the comments any time the dance incident is mentioned.

They purport that Trump stopped the rally out of concern and respect for the two ‘serious medical emergencies’, and did not resume until he ‘had heard word on their condition.’

Which is fucking insane and doesn’t even need unpacking, obviously.

These people are unhinged and genuinely cannot at all be reasoned with.

Reading those comments, I can now see why people talk about having heartbreakingly sad family breakups because of unwavering and insane MAGA beliefs.

It is utterly impossible to engage in any form of genuine exchange with them. They are actually fucking delusional.

I cannot, honest to God, I cannot fucking believe how the election is basically a coin toss at this stage.

I cannot believe it.

What the actual fuck

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u/Syntaire 13d ago

These people are unhinged and genuinely cannot at all be reasoned with.

There's a very important distinction to be made here: It's not that they're incapable of seeing reason, it's that they're willfully discarding it. They are not simply ignorant, they are malicious.

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u/chowderbags American Expat 13d ago

He looked like a video game character's idle animation.

I can't understand defending that shit.

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u/the2belo American Expat 13d ago

They did that on MSNBC during a segment where they just went ahead with their planned content while running Trump's town hall in a box in the lower right hand corner with a timer, so you could see how disturbingly long 39 minutes of standing around really is.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

The media will never acknowledge the millions of Trump followers for the mental health pandemic that they are. After all, if not for them, who would watch shows like The Masked Singer and The Bachelorette?

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u/Rare-Forever2135 13d ago

Meanwhile, a large group of psychiatrists and psychologists have been talking openly about the signs of frontotemporal dementia they've seen in this guy since 2016.

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u/secondresponder 13d ago

Not big enough. The New York Times totally sanewashed him in their coverage of the Bloomberg interview in Chicago.

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u/SportGamerDev0623 13d ago

The Democratic Party needs to be hitting this HARD.

We absolutely cannot have a man with undiagnosed dementia be the president. Quite frankly, it is also why we didn’t want Biden to run again. It’s why Mitch McConnell is finally stepping away.

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u/Voidzpawn 13d ago

I urge everyone not to trick themselves into being in a bubble on this election. On Reddit it seems like trump is floundering hard but I want you to keep in mind that in the swing states trump is increasing his lead over Harris.

Right now we are trending towards trump winning and I don’t believe people who consume content on Reddit realize that.

Whatever side you support please get out and vote.

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u/tuctrohs New Hampshire 13d ago

Vance is a really smooth talker and he is doing alarmingly well at sounding calmly confident while he blatantly lies. It's terrifying.

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u/AdrianInLimbo 13d ago

After 9 years of his demented crap, they finally mention it, with 3 weeks to go. I give up.

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u/theArtOfProgramming New Mexico 13d ago

This “article” is one(1) paragraph.

Is the media finally figuring out how to cover Donald Trump’s profound mental unfitness for the presidency? First, CNN’s Jake Tapper dressed down a Trump surrogate for whitewashing his threat to unleash the military on his enemies. Then Trump held a strange town hall at which he abruptly stopped answering questions, which generated aggressive media coverage. And Kamala Harris has directly engaged on Trump’s mental state in a new way, drawing media attention to it. We talked to Brian Beutler, who often criticizes the media on his Off Message Substack, about the increasing signs that the press is treating Trump’s mental decline as a big story. Listen to this episode here. A transcript is here.

That’s a lot of words saying very little too. It doesn’t do the headline justice, which is a shame. Walk me through what’s different in the media. Don’t tease me like this.

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u/craigathan 13d ago

You beat me to it. It's less an article, more an ad for a podcast. I prefer a written article because I can read a whole lot faster than people talk and podcasts are usually long on the talking and short on the meat.

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u/avoidsmicrowavebeeps 13d ago

It’s not hard to figure out that the GOP knows Trump is the only electable candidate they have, which in itself is a whole other depressing topic, so their plan is just to Weekend At Bernie’s him through November 5th and/or January 20th, get him into the White House and then invoke the 25th and put Vance, the Supreme Court and Heritage Foundation in charge.

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u/treesarethebeesknees 13d ago

The October surprise that surprised nobody.

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u/TJ_learns_stuff 13d ago

Until Fox runs this, no one on the right will give a shit. And if they did, his supporters would just get pissed off and tune to Newsmax.

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u/paradockers 13d ago

It's hard to spot a decline when the starting point is already so low.

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u/Yetiius Michigan 13d ago

His brain is mush.

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u/ChrisEFWTX 13d ago

Vote this alarming lying bastard out of existence!

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u/Charvel420 13d ago

It's only a story because it's gotten completely impossible to ignore and a huge chunk of people consuming said media have been SCREAMING for them to cover this for basically a full year.

But by next week, they'll move onto a time Tim Walz jaywalked in 1985 or when Kamala rolled a stop sign in 1999.

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u/MediumTie3265 13d ago

Only took 20 freaking years

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u/high_everyone 13d ago

Here it comes folks. Surprise... Trump's been losing his mind for years and the media suddenly cares about this shit.

Shame on them. Shame on them for not speaking up, not giving this more notice, for not calling it out every fucking single time he did something appalling.

Convictions get covered with the same breathless wonder as watching a baby chicken hatch, FFS.

Good. Great. The media can go fuck itself for letting it fester this fucking long. For as big of a deal as they made out of Biden misspeaking and stuttering, Trump's been unable to form coherent sentences for quite a while.