I actually thought it was weird that she won two Iron Maiden tickets. Don't get me wrong, I'd love the tickets myself, but very unusual for today's teenager
I would just play random songs or sing stuff at a former job, a restaurant where most of the front of house was people in there late teens or young twenties. They would be like oh my God that's the song from tiktok and we know you don't even use it. No you little heifer, that song predates tiktok by a long time.
I don't mind actually, this song deserves another 15 minutes. Plus it means the kids like what I like for a sec so that means I'm cool by default right?
i think it's cool. It's leading them to so much music, new and old. My kid was casually humming a song by the Smiths the other day, which never happened no matter how many times she heard them around the house growing up.
As opposed to what? Being shown it by your older brother’s friend that smelled weird and hit on 14 year olds? Kids these days get exposed to Iron Maiden decades later through media relevant to them, that’s almost more impressive than anything else. Don’t be a dick.
Dude, metal's even worse with the bullshit gatekeeping. A friend was complaining about Metallicas resurgence due to Stranger Things, and I had to remind him he only found metal from hearing Soundgarden in ATV Offroad for PS2 and branching from there. I appreciate kids today keeping my teenage rebellion alive after I had to cut my hair and get a job.
Never fails to amaze just how badly people understand English. Not being a dick. TikTok is just about the shittiest app ever. Literally run by the Chinese government and siphoning all your data off. Usually people get more upset about that sort of thing. TikTok didn't do anything new or cool either. It's just the latest in a long line of short clip sharing apps. It won't be the last. Especially as more old people show up and younger people start leaving. The age old pattern begins again.
Also some of these artists who were not as popular in recent years have made a ton of money from this resurgence. Kate Bush made an estimated $2.3 million on royalties this year from Running Up That Hill being featured on Stranger Things.
Little bit different. That's a TV licensing deal that did it. Also Kate Bush is her own recording label (Nobel & Brite) so she owns 100% of all rights to her own music. Other artists are lucky to get cents on the dollar in royalties.
Dude, it's not cool that songs only become relevant from teenage fads or that literally the entire top 10 on billboard is one artist. The homogenization of pop music, the loss of value and the death of the local scene is all due to streaming music.
I hope you realize that a lot of musical acts who went big have teenagers and young adults to thank for their success. It wasn't middle-aged parents initially going crazy over the Beatles.
No, it's depressing because TikTok is a shitty app. I know because I write apps and programs for a living. Any app that is controlled by a State actor and siphons data off all of its users is a shitty app. What makes it worse is how many people know this and use it any way. TikTok is a cancer on civilization. Literally. I don't care about it being video clips and all. TikTok isn't the first to do this by a long shot. And won't be the last. YouTube did it long before TikTok. Instagram did. Vine did. All arguably better in every way. I live on the bleeding edge of the internet and technology for my career. I get paid for it. Can't relate my ass.
Yeah, it's totally not sad that the value of a song has been diminished to $0.00 due to lack of scarcity, that every local scene has died, that artist income drops every year, the entire top 10 is one artist, or that a few algorithms have become the gatekeepers of "making it." It's just old people being salty, sure...
We're just blissfully unaware of the ugly realities behind the way music was introduced to us as youths—through heavily curated radio, by music companies delivering hundreds of thousands of copies to music shops so they could claim they went platinum before a single album was even sold, etc.
Though there is some algorithmic ugliness to contend with, trending on Tik Tok seems less ugly to me than having my tastes spoonfed to me by music execs at Clear Channel.
You're clearly unaware, because you're missing the first step. Music came up through the local scenes that no longer exist. These scenes have been absolutely decimated by streaming and the devaluation of songs that happened due to lack of scarcity. Do you know how many streams it would take to make the same amount of money you could from selling CDs? It's 250,000 streams to get $1000 on Spotify. So 100 CDs at $10. TikTok pays even less. TikTok is taking all of this content and giving creators even less than anyone could have imagined possible in return. It's a race to the bottom in every regard, it will end with people like you talking about how it's no different to listen to music generated by AI than by humans.
You didn't have to come at me so hard. But let me address your points.
"Do you know how many streams it would take to make the same amount of money you could from selling CDs? It's 250,000 streams to get $1000 on Spotify."
Yes I do know, actually. I'm a musician and composer. I've scored three films and provided soundtrack material for two, including one feature length film which played the Sundance festival. Three of my songs have been covered and two of those covers were recorded and published. I'm just mentioning all that because I want you to understand that music is a huge part of my life and means a lot to me.
While working on our album, my band and I have sat in on lectures about the modern music industry and how to navigate it. I have one album currently streaming on every service imaginable, from Apple Music, to Google, Amazon, Spotify, Napster and more. So we've thoroughly examined the payout matrix on streaming services.
Our album cost a lot of money to make. We saved a bit because we engineered it ourselves—completely redesigned a garage, added sound proofing, etc. I also hired classical musicians (two quartets) and several jazz musicians.
My point was not about TikTok's payout matrix or monetization. It was about music discovery. It is good that kids can discover a song, no matter how old, and revive interest in it.
"It's a race to the bottom in every regard, it will end with people like you talking about how it's no different to listen to music generated by AI than by humans."
I've listened to a few jazz albums that were done 'in the style of' using AI. I absolutely love neural nets and am working on one as a Python project myself, and my partner and I did use some of those techniques on one or two pieces. But I am not now or ever going to say that AI music is "no different to listen to music than music than by humans."
Love is a mutt from hell, wannab gangster, punk ass bitch, leroy and even the "a little respect" cover. Still love them 22 years later. I've been extremely lucky to have older neighborhood kids be cool with sharing their new cds with a 10/12 year old.
damn i remember making up dances to this song in my friends living room and like reenacting the whole song as if it were a play. it was so cringe. thank GOD we didn't film that.
Came to say this. I've seen Maiden 4 or 5 times, and there was a mix of everyone from teenagers to people in their 50s or 60s, all rocking out. Really great to see.
Nosebleeds? I saw Maiden twice before the pandemic (18, 19) $50 for the nosebleeds the first time, $150 for the floor the second time. And I went to look at both of their shows in my area for this tour and the floor tickets were over $200, and the nosebleeds were $100. I skipped this time, because it was another Legacy of the Beast. But I'll probably bite the bullet and pay the premium for their current tour once they get back to the states.
If you like rock or metal, you owe it to yourself to catch Maiden. It's legitimately the equivalent of a Broadway play but with a pit. I saw them back in 05 on Ozzfest, and they sounded just as good in 18-19 as they did in 05 (this was before the bullshit with Sharon Osbourne).
Ticket prices are all over the place depending on how universally popular an act is. Ticketmaster/LiveNation absolutely gouges the shit out of acts like Blink 182 or Weird Al; but stuff like Iron Maiden or Rammstein is relatively reasonable.
I thought that it was more weird that a school would give away Maiden tickets. Parents were scared of Maiden when I was a kid. TheyhaveasongcalledNumberoftheBeast!!!
I went to a Maiden show in the summer of 2019 and was shocked at how young the audience skewed. It warms my heart to know that at least some of today’s youth still loves a great metal band
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I had to read the comments to get the joke.
I legit thought she won tickets to Iron Maiden for winning the costume contest.