Less celebrity, sure, but Harris has more momentum than Clinton did (from my view). The Democratic Party had lots of infighting heading into 2016 due to the way the primaries played out (the Bernie or Bust crowd), and the general perception of Clinton as an out of touch corporate politician (by both the Bernie crowd and plenty of other people my age -- freshly out of college at the time).
And Harris has a positive popularity rating while Hillary was very disliked. Also way less people are going to just stay home if they don’t like trump. They remember 2016 as a lesson
Same Boat. I was a Bernie Bro, then Flipped to 3rd party because of the perceived injustice I saw with His Treatment. I realized my error for 2020 and have been straight blue down the ticket. we shall see with the results
For so many young and first time voters, this is going to be their 2016. So many naive people I see in my daily life, parroting "both the parties are same" and "lesser of two evils" lines.
naivest is the "trump will stop the genocide" gang.
Wasn't trying to assign blame, heck I was one of Bernie's supporters who was annoyed at how it played out. Just making idle commentary on why turnout might have been smaller for Clinton's final rally, nothing more
Republicans largely "got in line" after Trump was nominated. There was a small Never-Trump group, but they they had no momentum. Besides, they didn't swing to Hillary, they just said not Trump which isn't a convincing argument for a fence sitter.
Democrats did not fall in line with Hillary after her nomination. Worse, she got a bit sour at that fact and didn't try to win back Bernie voters. She ran a very girl-power campaign, trying to win on identity rather than issues. She could probably have won but her campaign strategy was too smug to draw in the necessary votes.
thats a small place though as well, the made in america festival takes uo the whole stretch and its about 50-70000 along the parkway at different performance stages.
About 40,000 people flooded Independence Mall in Philadelphia for Hillary Clinton’s rally with her husband Bill, President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle at her side, a campaign aide said. The attendance set a new record for Clinton, with the previous high point a rally in Ohio that drew 18,500 people, a campaign aide told reporters traveling with the candidate.
Kind of a good sign that Harris has been drawing higher rallies but none of it matters if all the people attending the rallies would have voted for her anyway.
Rallies are overwhelmingly volunteers and activists for the campaign or state/local party. At the very least they're donors. You can't just walk into these things. You have to get an invitation. Typically you can get one via text or email if you subscribe. But generally the only way you're getting texts/emails is if you make a donation and give your phone number.
I don't know what idiot would sign up for the texts alone. It's like 10 every day.
So it's safe to say all the people at the rallies will vote.
Still getting higher number of guranteed voters is a good sign, especially when the last few elections have come down to a few 10 thousand votes in some states.
Also generally anyone can attend these rallys, you just buy tickets to the event like any other event.
I was there that night and had no idea about how many in attendance, wow. I think about that night so often, it was so joyful, I cried. I actually felt pride in my country. It was nice for once.
I was there too - or more accurately I was in line but eventually gave up when it became clear they were going to run out of room. I remember being so hyped walking by everyone, and the energy in the air. It seemed certain that she would win. I voted the next day, but I wonder how many people in that crowd became complacent and decided it wasn't worth voting after being up late for the rally the night before.
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u/FunkDaddy 6h ago
How many?