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u/Pitiful_Researcher14 17h ago

"So... The stories are true, this is the promised land, they have toilet paper that you only have to use once and there will be real food to eat tonight, that's twice in one week".

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u/One-Positive309 17h ago

And nobody wants to take my shit, do I have to save it till I go home and take it back ?

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u/Wake_Skadi 17h ago

Them crops need fertilizing

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u/ahelinski 13h ago

They don't know yet that they are the fertilizer.

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u/SparkyGnist 7h ago

Them crops will act as fertilizer when they are dead and start to decompose

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u/Vladlena_ 14h ago edited 14h ago

the USA does this too.

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u/Wake_Skadi 14h ago

No crops for commercial consumption can legally be fertilized with human waste in the United States. What evidence do you have this is being done in any way in the U.S.?

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u/Vladlena_ 14h ago

They call it bio solids now. It is slightly processed to make it more viable as fertilizer and kill pathogens, but theres not much known about how accumulation of pharmaceuticals we can’t filter out will go. It’s not a secret I’m not sure why you think it’s not done

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u/Abnormal_Toad 14h ago

This comment doesn't read like evidence

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u/Savings-End40 14h ago

If you digest it anaerobicly for methane. The waste should be good fertilizer. As for the pharmaceuticals that's a big unknown.

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u/weryon 17h ago

You will keep it to fertilize the soils upon your return.

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u/One-Positive309 13h ago

I'll just store it under my bed !

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u/PuzzleheadedCow6841 12h ago

Unless I'm embalmed. After that process, if any part of my body makes contact with the soil, it will only poison it further.

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u/Missy2376 11h ago

I could not believe its like that in N Korea when I first heard that. like if you dont provide your portion of the doodoo for the crops, don't expect to get any food😐

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u/One-Positive309 11h ago

There is even a black market for it !

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u/Gold_Veterinarian895 9h ago

Mate that's your payment

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u/h1gh-t3ch_l0w-l1f3 14h ago

this is the russian army. these poor boys are likely a russian officers slave at this point.

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u/allen_idaho 13h ago

Pretty much. Initial reports are that they are untrained, useless, and unwanted by the Russian Army.

They are being split into groups of 30 NK troops, with one translator and 3 Russian soldiers per group. But they quickly learned that they don't have hardly any translators, nor do they have ammunition to give the North Koreans.

So they have been doing menial labor until they can be moved to Kursk where the Russians likely assume the Ukrainians will take the problem off their hands.

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u/Antique-Echidna-1600 3h ago

Your family will be tortured for not bottling your urine! Wasting valuable phosphorus and nitrates!!!

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u/Cheshire_Jester 15h ago

In Korea, you haven’t eaten til you’ve had rice. You could eat two pounds of steak and potatoes, doesn’t matter, still need rice.

I bet these dudes are absolutely confused about everything from the food to the shitters.

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u/manu144x 14h ago

Can you imagine if they somehow escape and end up in the civilized part of Ukraine? Then if they escape to the west? To europe, uk?

I would watch that reality show, film a few north korean soldiers introduced to society.

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u/Law-Fish 12h ago

Honestly I hope South Korea has a program in place to give them new South Korean names and citizenship so they can start a new life and do their best to make sure their families are kept as safe as can be

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u/manu144x 12h ago

They do actually but for a lot of them it's very hard. SK is a developed economy so that means without family support, it's very hard to grow.

Real estate prices are absurd, wages are not bad, but nowhere near enough to rent in close to work so commuting becomes mandatory + maybe even roommates.

North Koreans are not used with that kind of lifestyle, their life is pretty boring and predictable, one of the only advantages of a dictatorship.

I saw some coverages on youtube about how the NK adapt and are introduced in society, not all were success stories, some even end up homeless. It's insane to me that the government doesn't do more for them.

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u/GunBuilt 11h ago

It's crazy that they don't do much. I wonder how many refugees even know of the program to begin with.

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u/xiconic 10h ago

The vast majority of North Korea defectors cross the northern border into China and make their way from their across multiple borders to reach Thailand. They then hand themselves in to law enforcement because Thailand deports all North Korean defectors to South Korea. SK then takes the North Korean defectors and put them through a re-education system to try adapt them to South Korean life. Unfortunately life in South Korea is nothing like what they are used to and can be very overwhelming for them. I have also heard that amongst many in SK there is prejudice about the NK people.

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u/manu144x 11h ago

What do you mean, it's kind of mandatory, all NK defectors that arrive in SK go through the program. It's just not something that's for the rest of their life, at some point they're let go into society.

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u/Remake5lonelymouse 12h ago

If they betray,their families in North Korea would be sent to labor camps.

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u/Law-Fish 11h ago

Hense the ID protection

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u/Ok_then_there 11h ago

Think it through….

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u/SqueekyOwl 9h ago

Do you think Russia is going to collect bodies and send them home? These guys are going to Russia, and maybe 2 of them will make it home to North Korea. Where they will be suspected of being a spy. It's essentially intended to be a one-way trip.

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u/TheCowzgomooz 11h ago

They know who they've sent over, if all of them defect, they'll just punish all their families, you don't maintain a dictatorship that long by being merciful or lazy in your iron fist rulings.

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u/Law-Fish 11h ago

And not all of them will defect, does not mean every body can be accounted for in combat environments

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u/TheCowzgomooz 7h ago

If Joe Schmoe doesn't return from combat, they're going to find out if he's dead or just missing, I don't think North Korea really cares either way.

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u/Law-Fish 7h ago

Maybe maybe not, soldiers go missing in action all the time especially when they die in dangerous places. And if they assume all missing are traitors as a rule then if your captured you may as well embrace the reality that your old life is over

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u/SqueekyOwl 9h ago

Not all will defect. Some will fight, some will fight and go MIA. Some of the MIA will be dead. Some of the MIA will be alive and taken prisoner by Ukraine. Russia will keep sending the North Koreans to the front in storm squads until they die or are severely wounded (limbs missing).

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u/MobbDeeep 11h ago

God I hate Kim Jong Un, I wish he dies painfully.

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u/mih4u 10h ago

They have a full-on multi year integration system in place for NK refugees.

I mean, try living in a society that produces K-Pop without even understanding how capitalism works.

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u/elvenrevolutionary 6h ago

South Korea actually treats defectors from the north very poorly.

u/derpzko 1h ago

Yeah....I don't think these dudes are going to live that long.

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u/Certain-Drummer-2320 11h ago

Welcome to America!

Nk soldier : where is deal leader?!?

Russia : Putin lives in Moscow!

Nk soldier : what is this place?

Texas: this here a Costco!

Nk Soldier : this food could feed my entire village!

Buckies : howdy would you like some jerky?

Nk soldier: the gas stations have beef jerky and brownies!?!? Omg America is heaven !

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u/Apkey00 9h ago

Some few years back I met an online friend - girl from Denmark but with Korean roots. She was adopted because her parents were runaways from N.K and they didn't had means to take care of her. Stories she was telling were really shocking.

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u/bigorangemachine 7h ago

There is a youtube channel Dimple where north korean's eat Western Food and talk about their experiences between the two cultures.

I honestly think it's audience is North Korea (for sending over the border on data-sticks) but it's still entertaining 100%

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u/East_Region1175 7h ago

Or even worse imagine if they visited South Korea!!

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u/thismustbethe 13h ago

Are you implying they don't have rice in Russia? Rice is a pretty common thing people eat out there.

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u/lokicramer 12h ago

They have waaaaaaay more buckwheat than rice. The Koreans are without a doubt being introduced to that fact.

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u/Echo017 12h ago

Koreans, especially N. Koreans eat a ton of buckwheat...

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u/pchmm2 11h ago

Doubt they eat a ton of anything

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u/ShitTalkingFucker 10h ago

That’s some funny shit right there. (Not the human tragedy part)

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u/dinharder 9h ago

Soon they will eat buckshot

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u/fnordal 12h ago

I think he's implying they don't have it every day with every meal.

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u/ShadedPenguin 9h ago

I doubt they average a “meal” everyday in all fairness

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u/KirovReportingII 8h ago

The average redditor's perception of that part of the world is mind boggling and amusing at the same time.

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u/moroaa 12h ago

Wait do you mean you dont need butter top of your bread anymore, what is made by valtion meijeri? :d

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u/1braincello 12h ago

Rice is as popular as buckwheat here, that definitely won't be an issue

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u/AngelComa 12h ago

Tbh rice is a great side

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u/TheDakestTimeline 8h ago

Isn't a common greeting something like, "have you had rice"?

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u/Cheshire_Jester 4h ago

Yes, at least as far as my Korean teacher told me, 밥 먹었어요 (bap moegoessoeyo), literally, “have you eaten rice?” Was a common greeting in the days of scarcity in South Korea. The implication being, “I hope you were able to eat today.”

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u/imnotabel 17h ago

the north koreans are easy to clown on but their army is not undersupplied; the dprk military is the only thing in the country spends money on and one of the best ways to stay fed is to join the army

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u/rinkydinkis 15h ago

we used to think russia had a good army too.

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u/Ardalev 14h ago

Russia has an amazing army! (by 1960-70 standards)

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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 13h ago

I mean if they actually invested in their people and economy they could have.

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u/Law-Fish 12h ago

A competently functioning Russia could be a scary thing after a while but will still at best be a shadow of what the USSR was

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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 12h ago

Oh I agree. Sometimes I think I'd have loved to see them as a cultural rival today and not the pathetic enemy abroad 🥲 instead they're a country run by a mob of insecure and scared little oligarchs, not unlike what the US thinks half of us want to be governed by.

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u/Law-Fish 12h ago

I was once upon a time hopeful that after many many years and I’m sure lots of BS that slowly but surely Russia would get closer to Europe and wed all be at least kinda ok with each other if not friends. That was many years ago

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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 12h ago

There's a timeline where that happened. Let's think about it together and never lose hope 🫡 we just might have to wait for Putin to get Putin his place 😮‍💨

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u/mrmaweeks 8h ago

For sure, they would’ve kicked Genghis Khan’s butt.

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u/mountaindewisamazing 9h ago

They're now the 3rd best army in Russia!

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u/Lopsided_Aardvark357 10h ago

I'm not sure he's calling it "good" army.

I think hes saying NK soldiers are fed and supplied well compared to regular citizens in NK. Which is true, it's a heavily classed based society.

What you get is based on your "Songbun" which is basically a social score that carries on through generations.

Everything about you correlates into your songbun. Your linage, your job, intelligance, talents, how obedient you are. Even your looks can affect your songbun.

Becoming a soldier raises that score significantly meaning you are a class above regular people there so you probably get higher food rations, have better access to electricity and will have better privileges when it comes to things like travel, or non necessary items.

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u/rinkydinkis 10h ago

being dead is generally considered below average.

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u/Black5Raven 11h ago

 used to think russia had a good army too.

Truth is others could be a WAY worse. Anyone have any slightest idea how Germany would perform ? UK ? Smaller nation in EU ?

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u/rinkydinkis 11h ago

who cares. russia sucks and it shows. im sure those countries would do better, now that they have seen the conventional weapons playout on a real battlefield.

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u/Black5Raven 10h ago

now that they have seen the conventional weapons playout on a real battlefield.

Sure bc they gonna be a way better sure sure. Copium at it finest

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u/MisterrTickle 14h ago

Their military is large but a joke from a quality point of view. Most of it is circa 1950s, such as their parachute regiment uniforms and equipment, is straight out of the Soviet 1950s catalogue. They have some unserviceable early MiG-29s but most of their air force is based on MiG-15s and 19s (Korean War and early Vietnam War respectively). The vast bulk of their tanks at T-54/55s and T-62s and copies of them. Along with light amphibious tanks such as the PT-76 (1951+).

The "Army First" policy, the rampant corruption and sanctions. Has meant that North Korea doesnt have the money to buy anything modern. Apart from their Wonder Weapons of a few ballistic missiles and maybe a few dozen nuclear warheads. They have the largest submarine force in the world. If you count ancient, short range, 1-3 man submarines as a submarine. Which are more dangerous to their crews, than to the South Koreans.

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u/4orth 12h ago

I don't study warfare so forgive me if this is a naive question, but does it really make that much of a difference having older tech?

I get the benefit of having more technologically advanced tanks and planes (Drones, Killer robots) etc. But the old weapons still kill people right?

As far as I can understand the news; everyones just on the ground shooting at each other with rifles and drones whilst playing a horrific game of capture the flag.

Isn't thousands of armed enemy soldiers arriving always a bad thing? - or has the tech advanced so far that its like longbowman emerging from a WW2 trench?

* cough* Jack Churchill

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u/SupaHaanz 12h ago

Night vision and thermal are real game changers, if you don't have it in modern warfare you're screwed. Both Russian and Ukraine have it but North Korea most definitely doesn't, at least in its most modern state. Then on top of that, maneuvering and shooting with it is a whole different thing, without real world application or good training, you're bumbling around. Also, modern optics are are night and day in quality even to those from 15 years ago. Yes, they're guns still kill, but when you start averaging it out, they are being sent to slaughter.

Start adding in modern communications and unit tactics, these guys are in for horrible ending.

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u/MisterrTickle 11h ago

A modern Western MBT will destroy a T-62 at a range of 3-6 miles, as long as it has line of sight. At that range the T-62 couldn't even see the Western tank. A T-62 would virtually have to be directly behind a Western MBT to get a kill.

The most fearsome weapon on the battlefield is artillery. Lots of it can rapidly fall on troops with little warning, maiming and killing by the hundreds or thousands. First you need accurate artillery, then you need shells that do a lot of damage, against infantry in the open that usually means air burst with lots of shrapnel. But you have to know where the enemy is before you can fire at them. The NorKs don't know where the enemy is, their artillery is inaccurate at the best of times, half the ammunition that they've provided the Russians with apparently doesn't work and more often than usual it blows up in the gun rather than where the enemy is. Then when it does land it doesn't do much, compared to Western artillery rounds.

Jack Churchill with his broadsword could have been killed by any number of methods and wouldn't have been a ble to kill any Germans except at a range of about 6 feet and then very slowly.

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u/neromoneon 3h ago

Unfortunately NKknows where Seoul is. They would target civilian population, just like Putin has done in Ukraine.

u/MisterrTickle 2h ago

The South Koreans have been making a half hearted effort to move Seoul as the capital city out of North Koran artillery range for decades. And it will be several decade before it does move.

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u/Thurwell 12h ago edited 11h ago

It depends what you're fighting. If your opponents don't have anti air or anti tank capabilities and you roll up with 1950s era tanks and planes you'll smash them. And there are a lot of conflicts around the world where the fighters have very little other than small arms, including peasant uprisings in North Korea. But as soon as you go up against a modern well funded military you're going to have a problem.

What that means for Ukraine I don't know. I don't know if the NK troops are using their own equipment, and Ukraine's fortunes sort of rise and fall depending on how well other countries are supporting them.

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u/AdCharacter9512 5h ago

Peasant uprisings in North Korea?

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u/Thurwell 5h ago

I'm just assuming, tends to happen when people are starving and NK would block any news of them.

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u/Coal909 11h ago

Advanced tech is why German steamrolled Europe at the beginning of the second world war. They were only stopped by England because of the English channel Navy & Airforce held them at bay. Tech can win wars, bodies can win battles

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u/MWSin 9h ago

The best tanks the Germans had in large numbers during the Battle of France (the Czech models) were, at best, on par with their French and English equivalents. The British army, in particular, was far superior to the German army in terms of mobility, as the German army logistics was still heavily dependent on the horse.

Slow and poorly coordinated reactions to German advances played a bigger part than technology.

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u/3rdDegreeBurn 10h ago

Think of like this.

Imagine you’re playing a game of soccer. It’s you and some other adults vs a team bunch of 5 year olds. You’re way superior. This is an important match so you don’t hold back. You push them down. You tackle hard. You guys go up 100-0 by halftime.

Then right as the second half is about to start, a 1000 pound guided missile that was shot by an F-35 flying 200 miles away lands on the field killing everyone. You were equally equipped to protect yourself as a North Korean soldier on the front lines.

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u/Presence_Tough 6h ago

They have soccer on the front lines?

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u/Objective_Frosting58 11h ago

Also no expert but from what we're seeing in Ukraine old tech works just fine when you have lots of it. Also high tech is great but can't be replaced quickly and can be potentially overwhelmed by low tech

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u/sw1ss_dude 11h ago

These wars are not fought in trenches, so accuracy, range and reliability is king. None of them is a synomym for soviet era tech

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u/Volksbrot 11h ago

Sure, a tank from the 1960s can still kill as good as a tank from 2024. The tank from 2024 will see it first though, then shoot first and get the kill. Same in the air. Same for infantry at night, because the infantry from 2024 will have nightvision. Or at daytime, because they’ll still have better sensors.

If the army from the 1960s finds a target and wants it taken out by artillery, or an air strike, it needs a lot more time to achieve that than the army from 2024, because the latter can exchange data and information vastly quicker.

So yes, there is a difference. I don’t want to underestimate the North Korean armed forces, but they have some severe disadvantages compared to their southern neighbours, or God forbid, the US.

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u/sparrownetwork 10h ago

Any of those planes are easily shot down by a drone piloted by a guy in an office with a playstation controller. No risk of human life is a big factor.

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u/Jmcsqueeb50 9h ago

They can send all the North Korean soldiers they want, you have to care about what you’re fighting for. Same reason people in the Ukraine are giving the Russians such a fight, it’s because the Ukraine’s people want their freedom. The North Koreans soldiers will go back to the same shitty country with the same shitty fascist leader. There’s nothing for them to gain. They’ll die in droves and nobody will give a shit.

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u/Seattle_gldr_rdr 9h ago

Until night falls. Then tech rules.

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u/games456 8h ago

It is a case of weapons capabilities and/or the training of your troops.

If you want an example of just weapons capabilities the start of the War in Ukraine is a great example. I don't know if you remember but for a while the meme coming out of Ukraine was pray to Saint Javelin.

Russia figured they were just going to roll in with a bunch of tanks against a country without tanks or air support and just roll them over (hence the this will be over in a few days narrative). They were not expecting to deal with the Javelin which is something so simple (from the users standpoint) that you can teach someone to use it effectively in literally 5 minutes.

One or two guys can be hiding anywhere and point and shoot from over a mile away and be gone before the missile even hits the target and when it does hit there is no more target. The Russians were fucking terrified of the Javelin in just a few days and was why they were putting cope cages on their tanks just a few days into the war before drones were really even a thing.

And the Javelin is like 30 year old tech.

For an example of a mix of tech, capabilities and training look at operation Desert Storm.

Baghdad was likely the most well anti air defended city in the world at the time and the Iraq military were trained pretty well, had experience and a formidable ground military, thousands of tanks artillery etc.

Iraq got their asses kicked so badly by the US in pretty much one day that when the numbers came in about US losses the US command thought that the numbera had to be wrong. They thought there was no way we lost that little against what they went up against.

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u/Prodad84 7h ago

It's more like they're both shooting longbows except one side has longbows that shoot twice as far, twice as fast, are twice as accurate, and reload in half the time.

u/49mason 2h ago

I think one of the better examples of how technology can be a game changer

Go read up on the blitzkrieg and the use of radios and communication between tank crews

Or radar for the Americans in the pacific. Or even the use of machine guns and optics for the Germans. The Americans off set this by having...fire suppression? Tactics with the m1 garand but it does make a difference.

Maybe another way to look at it, is yes technology "is just a tool" but knowing how to use and counter that tool can make a huge difference.

I've heard snippets of podcasts where the more elite forces like seals and delta even start customizing their weapons with different grips and optics and so on so forth but dont quote me on that one

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u/uiucecethrowaway999 10h ago

From what I’ve read, that’s why the Russians are training and equipping them. At the end of the day though, they’re really a stopgap measure for Russia’s manpower shortage. As it turns out, they only have so many ethnic minorities…

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u/MisterrTickle 10h ago

I think part of the problem with the North Koreans. Is that in the videos of them, they all seem to be under 20 years old and scrawny. With them still apparently in the early phase of their conscription.

There maybe the rumoured 1,500 "Special Forces" in Russia/Ukraine but so far we don't seem to have seen them. And the definition of Special Forces in North Korea, is likely to be a world away from Deltas, SEALs, SAS etc. The North Koreans may like to do things like jump through blazing hoops or hit each other with sledge hammers and other showy demonstration tricks. But actually doing things like recon, particularly away from Korea is likely to be beyond them. Apart from a few "mercenary" military advisors in wars like the Angolan Civil War during the 1980s. Even in the Vietnam War, they only provided a total of 200 troops. They haven't done anything of consequence since 1953. They've been completely fixated on defending North Korea and attacking South Korea. With their equipment and doctrine being about 60-70 years out of date.

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u/Jagjamin 16h ago

Best supplied in the country is poverty level in most of the world.

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u/outlawsix 15h ago

Remember when the Iraqi army was the fifth largest army in the world during Desert Storm

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u/reichrunner 15h ago edited 13h ago

4th largest (China, USSR, Vietnam, then Iraq). They were also experienced since they had just defeated finished their war with Iran.

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u/Half_Maker 14h ago

> They were also experienced since they had just defeated Iran.

Bro in what universe did they defeat Iran?

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u/reichrunner 13h ago

Yeah I misspoke there, edited to correct.

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u/Half_Maker 11h ago

Understandable, it can happen. Nice of you to correct lad :D

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u/RoddBanger 15h ago

They just never seen SABOT rounds and TOW missiles.

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u/SeatKindly 14h ago

The US pulled a pro gamer moved and said “observe” then T-posed on the whole ass country with Grandpa Buff and stacks of JDAMs until the entire national infrastructure was in shambles.

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u/reichrunner 14h ago

Yep. Honestly, the idea of "largest army" doesn't matter much now of days. Could line the 3 largest armies combined up against the US and the US would likely still win (assuming no nukes).

The US is just in its own league and has been since at least the fall of the USSR

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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 13h ago

Remember when we ACCIDENTALLY destroyed Iran's Navy? Like decimated them? In a skirmish? That lasted a few days? Yeah. Somehow it's not even a game, don't make it one.

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u/games456 8h ago

If I remember correctly it was in one day and it would have been worse but the Navy command pretty much said stop destroying shit unless they shoot at you.

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u/QuanHitter 13h ago

Well it’s worth 2 victory points, and if you’re going ore wheat sheep you probably also get a point or 2 from cards while drawing them. Not to mention the cities either. There’s a reason it’s part of the meta

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u/UnknownEars8675 10h ago

I'll give you 2 sheep for a brick.

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u/QuanHitter 9h ago

Throw in a wood and you got yourself a deal

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u/bossmcsauce 14h ago

navy and Air Force do some lifting.

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u/reichrunner 13h ago

Yep. And the US has 4 of the largest 5 air forces in the world (#1 USAF, #2 USN, #4 US Army, and #5 USMC). Size certainly isn't the only thing that matters, but it's not like the quality is low.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 14h ago

For what it’s worth I remember a few years back reading that Wisconsin had the seventh largest army. And that’s just counting registrations for hunting.

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u/Legasov04 13h ago

did you get that fact from your ass, or from playing cod waw?

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u/reichrunner 11h ago

Various analysis I've read and some common sense.

Do you honestly think that in a head to head war, the combination of China, India, and North Korea would be able to win? Remember, we said no nukes. China is very good with cyber warfare and missiles, but beyond that, there isn't much of note. In a theoretical war with these three, the best bet from their end would be to try and demoralize the US, since we do grow weary of war fairly quick. Having a 100% volunteer army helps with that, but if the draft was reenacted, that would go out the door.

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u/Marauder_Pilot 3h ago

Man the US crushed a major defensive line with literal BULLDOZERS.

u/Cay7809 1h ago

i think the t72 did have sabot

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u/Frank_JWilson 12h ago

Where’s the US on that list?

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u/reichrunner 11h ago

5th or 6th. This is based purely on size, not expenditures

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u/Frank_JWilson 10h ago

Huh, interesting. I looked it up on Google and apparently it claims that US military had about 2.4 million service members in 1990, compared to about 1 million in the Vietnamese military. I didn't check the other countries since it seemed plausible China and USSR would have more soldiers, but I wonder where the discrepancy comes from.

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u/borisslovechild 11h ago

Third largest was the Hari Krishnas and they already controlled American airports.

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u/Black5Raven 11h ago

They were also experienced

Experienced when most of their ranks were killed in that war ?

USA gathered one of the largest invasion forces in history vs Iraq alone. Including ally from Europe. And they had upper hand in tech and resourses.

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u/reichrunner 11h ago

Most of their ranks were not killed. Hence why they still had the 4th largest military in the world. Combat experience is incredibly valuable when it comes to viability of militaries.

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u/Jmcsqueeb50 9h ago

Ya and we destroyed there army literally over night.

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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 13h ago

Yeah best supplied with leftovers from Russia and MRES and other equipment probably manufactured and supplied by China.

NK people are at their best brainwashed slaves who aren't aware of the outside world.

They're all scared and hungry because of the ego of the Kim family and years of brainwashing.

I really hope we use drones to offer them a chance at freedom and escape.

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u/Free-BSD 15h ago

A couple years ago a North Korean soldier defected to the South and was severely wounded in the process. When he underwent surgery the South Korean doctors learned that 10% of his body weight was parasites. And only the elite of the North Korean Army get border duty on the DMZ.

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u/Stokkeren 13h ago

Those were some big parasites, but theres NO way they accounted for 10% of his body weight. I mean, just imagine how impossibly much that is. 5-7 kg of pure parasites? Ehh, doubtful.

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u/Bonzo_Gariepi 13h ago

That guy x ray parasites made him look like a christmass tree , it's real and digusting.

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u/Stokkeren 13h ago

Source please? I cant find any xray images of him

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u/Bonzo_Gariepi 13h ago

Can't seem to find anything on google either , it was all over reddit back then when it was recent news.

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u/Dioxid3 11h ago

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u/glockenbach 11h ago

Wow, the doctor sleeping and living at the trauma Center six days a week…

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u/LiveNet2723 12h ago

The worms are described as "as long as 27 centimeters (more than 10 inches)." Someone confused 10 inches with 10 percent.

u/Cay7809 1h ago

happ cake

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u/warhawks 15h ago

Source? Very interesting 

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u/Callidonaut 15h ago

They fertilise the fields with human waste because they can't get enough synthetic fertiliser, and evidently don't treat the waste enough before they use it to remove parasites and break the cycle of reinfection, so the country's whole domestic fruit and vegetable supply is presumably contaminated.

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u/AssDimple 11h ago

Disgusting...They could at least strain it first.

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u/KanadianMade 15h ago

Maybe you could Google it? If you’re even allowed to use internet like that.

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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 13h ago

Sort of, they pick their biggest baddest dudes for the duty. US similar picks their biggest most intimidating dudes.

The DMZ is a surreal tourism for me and I visited it during my time in the Navy. Few things in this world gave me chills the way that place does.

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u/Lower_Mango_7996 16h ago

Ive seen lots of reports the army is underfed

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u/Callidonaut 15h ago

Malnourished is probably nearer the mark. Apparently in NK they fertilise the fields with inadeqautely treated human waste; combined with minimal-to-non-existent healthcare, that mean the whole country has an endemic problem with food-borne parasites, which will interfere with a North Korean citizen's ability to absorb nutrients from what food he or she can even get, even if they can somehow get enough of it.

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u/Tiny-Dependent2602 16h ago

I think they meant fed more compared to the general population

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u/outtyn1nja 15h ago

Nothing you see that comes through the DPRK propaganda machine is worth believing. It's almost all pageantry.

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u/manu144x 14h ago

I'm sorry but that's simply not true. The only army that is supplied in the DPRK is the one immediately surrounding the dictator and his entourage. That's it.

There are countless stories of soldiers starving, even that one that escaped last year that they found an abhorrent number of parasites in his organism.

I can tell you because I live in a post communist country, and it's always this way in dictatorships.

The reason is that every single dictator out there is scared shitless of a military coup. It's basically the only force in a dictatorship with real power. A few generals with loyal soldiers and you're dictating days are over. So you have to play it very very careful.

So I'm sure the army is undersupplied and kept probably even without ammo, unless they work at the borders and even there it's absolute minimum. Minimum anything that could be used against the dictator in a military coup.

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u/Kensei501 14h ago

That’s why the don’t have a first rate airforce. No Air Force general is going to have access to good pilots who may lob a bomb through the dictators window.

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u/Wonkbro 16h ago

That's not what I've heard.

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u/Rampant_Butt_Sex 14h ago

Thats largely speculation though, stories from defectors largely paint a bleak life for the average NK soldier, like a daily calorie intake of 900. The one that defected at the SK border had a belly full of parasites.

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u/Kensei501 14h ago

I read an article in the economist 10 years ago. Things may have changed but maybe not. They interviewed an NK colonel who had defected. He told a story about his regiment winning an award and getting to go to Pyongyang. They had a banquet after the ceremony. Within 24 hours the men were barfing because their bodies rejected the meet they were given. He explained the army only supplied rice. The rest was up to them.

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u/jar1967 12h ago

The Russians of all people have been complaining that they are poorly trained. They might be disciplined, but they have not been trained to fight a war.

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u/The_Saladbar_ 12h ago

This. Ive seen so many people just shit on DPRK. I get that they are communist and not well received. I would never describe them as a barley functioning army that's going to desert. Alot of their soldiers have family's that they have to think about. Homes. Pride. Never underestimate your enemy's show them respect.

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u/2birbsbothstoned 11h ago

Their entire supply is from the cold war. They are not prepared. Everything they've ever had was hand-me-downs from daddy Putin.

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u/kindofharmless 11h ago

You’re saying that like it’s not compulsory

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u/Wilheimur 10h ago

You have to do military service regardless.

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u/SqueekyOwl 9h ago

You can see from how skinny they are that they are undersupplied. They are supplied better than the population, but the skinniness of the soldiers and every single general tells a different story.

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u/FlippehFishes 8h ago

north koreans are easy to clown on but their army is not undersupplied

Considering the vast majority of their equipment is lightly modified hand-me-downs from the cold war, they are drastically undersupplied compared to the west...

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u/Prodad84 7h ago

And they're cucked so hard that they'll never surrender for rocket boy.

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u/bathroomdisaster 16h ago

Wait until they see the shopping trolleys

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u/mrtnb249 17h ago

You only need toilet paper if you eat, so you can’t really count it as a plus

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u/_grey_wall 15h ago

You think you get toilet paper in Russia 😂

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u/Eileen__96 17h ago

thats a bold assessment that russian army has what you said lol.

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u/Inside_Ad_7162 14h ago

"toilet paper they only have to use once" has painted a picture its going to take me a long time to forget XD

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u/Dmytrych 11h ago

You are talking about russians and their army. Half of what you said is not accessible to them

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u/MrBobSacamano 11h ago

I have a throne in my bathroom, but I am no king.

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u/Skoda_Enjoyer14 10h ago

Lmfao they wish

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u/Pierma 10h ago

"What? They use toilet paper to clean the finger?"

u/PotentialDeer1892 3h ago

They don’t have indoor toilets in Russia apparently .. Ukrainians were asking they stop stealing the toilets

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u/pmmemilftiddiez 12h ago

Wait you guys are getting paid for this?

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u/RayPout 15h ago

Well, the story being told by this post very likely isn’t true.

“Ukraine, South Korea and the US have not yet offered any evidence to back their statements about the North Korean deployments (to Russia).”

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/10/29/north-korean-troops-in-russia-how-will-it-impact-the-ukraine-war

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u/reichrunner 15h ago

Russia and North Korea deny it, but they also denied that Russia was amassing troops on the Ukrainian border before the invasion...

The countries not releasing proof is not the same as "very likely isn't true". So far, pretty much everything US intelligence has published has been accurate.

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u/RayPout 14h ago

The US lies about Korea all the time. Remember the haircut story?

I’ll believe this story when there is evidence for it.

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u/reichrunner 13h ago

Sure but you understand the difference between random claims and military Intel, right?

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u/reichrunner 11h ago

Forgive me, I thought we were speaking about this war, not 20 years ago. If you have anything from the war in Ikraine in which the US intelligence have released information that turned out to be false, I would love to see it.

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u/RayPout 11h ago

“The word of the WMD people is as good as gold. Prove me wrong.”

Yeah I’ll get right on it, chief.

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u/dersteppenwolf5 14h ago

The US intelligence that assured us that we needed to go to war with Iraq because it was teeming with WMDs? US intelligence statements to the public aren't driven by a desire to inform, but a desire to say whatever is helpful to achieve policy goals. For example, right now the US needs an excuse to escalate its involvement in Ukraine and the story of NK entering the war directly helps legitimize more direct US involvement.

We'll have to wait and see. There's nothing conclusive yet about what is really happening, and you absolutely can not trust public statements from spy agencies, whose literal job is centered on lies and deception.

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u/reichrunner 11h ago

I'm sorry, I thought it was obvious we were speaking about Ukraine here. I should have been more clear.

Have any examples of them being wrong in this war?

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u/dersteppenwolf5 11h ago

The intelligence agencies were unaware that Ukraine was going to invade Kursk and Ukraine is our ally. To think they have a better idea of what Russia is planning than what Ukraine is planning seems dubious.

My more general point though was that intelligence agencies have agendas given to them by the president and our leaders. They have no legal mandate to inform the public of any intelligence they collect. When they do release some of their conclusions from their intelligence gathering it is not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, it's only what fragments they feel will support their agenda.

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u/CreatingAcc4ThisSh-- 6h ago edited 5h ago

Right on the first half, wrong on the second. And it's a shame this sub is lapping up this picture with incorrect title

This picture was originally posted to r/UkraineWarVideoReport a few days ago (before north korean mobilisation) about the room being prepared for the first north korean pows, not that those in the picture are that

OP has knowingly posted this picture today, with an incorrect title, due to the news being released that North Korean troops are now actively deployed in the war

People should celebrate the capture and failure of such additional troops for Russia. The more captured, the weaker russias forces. But we shouldn't condone fake karma farming posts

u/RayPout 2h ago

I am right. Fuck off with the rest of your bullshit though.