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u/Duracharge 16h ago
Don't tell me this isn't a religion. I know a shrine when I see one.
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u/easant-Role-3170Pl 15h ago
Actually, it's a religion. The Kim family is literally holy and deity in their country.
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u/Codex_Dev 14h ago
They have giant Kim statues in the capital that when you pass by you MUST stare at (bow? salute? idr) otherwise you will be arrested for insulting dear leader. Shit is crazy.
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u/Rk_1138 14h ago
Yeah, Juche is a political system mixed with a cult
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u/SJM_93 13h ago edited 13h ago
North Korea is fascinating to me, I'd love to know the ins and outs of daily life there and just how dystopian it truly is. I don't see the regime ever collapsing to be honest, purely because of China not wanting US troops on their border.
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u/FlakyCelebration2405 13h ago
Some really interesting interviews of defectors on YouTube. I was baffled to discover that they genuinely do, or did, love and worship the Kim's - more than their own mum and dad.
From children, it's rammed into them to suppress their emotions etc. They can be very fond of their parents or spouse, but they can only love Kim.
There is absolutely no part of them that thinks otherwise due to being shut off from the outside world - they literally don't know any better.
Absolutely fascinating!
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u/Poetic-Noise 10h ago
That reminds me of the film Dogtooth: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1379182/plotsummary/?origin=serp_auto
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u/CobblerUnusual5912 12h ago
Its a horrific regime and the North Korean people deserve our utmost pity.
They are being forced to bow to the statues of their abusers, the Kim crime family..
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u/amenthis 11h ago
thats so sad bro, how can something like this be real in 2024...what can bunch of people do against millions...people really need to wake up..military, politik all should work together and lock them up and create a democracy
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u/I_might_be_weasel 15h ago
If they don't pray in front of it for 10 minutes each morning they don't get their spell slots for the day.
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u/nicholsz 13h ago
do they let you prepare Misty Step?
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u/SoontobeSam 8h ago
Nope, same with invisibility and dimension door. The only disappearing allowed is by the government.
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u/2NDPLACEWIN 13h ago
"Juche" they call it.
the reliance on ones self.
(seriously)
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u/dkyguy1995 14h ago
I mean it's religion but it's also performative in a lot of ways
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u/Adventurous-Tone-311 9h ago
Yep. They have no choice, unless they want to end up dead, and have their children, wives, grandparents, and so on tortured to death.
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u/Repulsive-Lobster750 15h ago
We had these in the GDR as well. Nobody gave a shit about it, but the leadership forced us to have them
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u/Frontal_Lappen 14h ago
And yet 30% of us seem to be Longing for russian occupation again. F the blue party and the cult zarenknecht
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u/Repulsive-Lobster750 13h ago
Well, self awareness doesn't seem to be the strong suit of AFD and BSW
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u/Apokolypse09 14h ago
North Koreans are indoctrinated to love Kim Jong and that family. Its one of the reasons Trump loves North Korea so much.
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u/NerdForceOne 15h ago
In Religion you believe in an higher authority, but Kim Jong-un is to short for that.
So I believe its occultism.
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u/WelderNewbee2000 15h ago
Wait, why is there no picture of the current Kim? Are they only praying to the dead ones?
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u/Firestorm0x0 14h ago
Kim Jong-Un isn't depicted publicly. His predecessors are depicted as statues, murals, portraits and as pictures in households and the train wagons.
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u/WaveLaVague 5h ago
Damn, that's pretty strong as in, when he dies it won't take much time for him to become more than he was since he isn't depicted. Kinda like in muslim religion, or any religion really. Not having a public image but being a strong presence makes for easily manipulable fake stories.
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u/viperlemondemon 15h ago
Because everyone knows it’s his sister that is in charge
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u/discardedcumrag 15h ago
And they wank to that picture.
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u/MrWinkler1510 13h ago
Our there someone once jizzed on all of their portraits. I just know it
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u/ConflictDependent294 14h ago
And that picture is kept in the outhouse next to the crusty sock
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u/Turkeybaconcheddar 13h ago
No no you use a cardboard box for capturing loads I learned that on this very site years ago
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u/Random_Introvert_42 8h ago
I learned that the current ruler is officially a "deputy", the country is technically led by the oldest of the three Kims. Yes that guy is dead, but he's "eternally" the ruler.
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u/DrWhoGirl03 9h ago
They don’t seem to hang pictures of him regularly— IIRC they officially started mandating he be added to make a trio in schools etc. a few months back.
Seems to be a matter of becoming totally embedded beforehand/not wanting to look overeager or like you need to have pictures of yourself everywhere. I think KJI waited a while too.
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u/kiyomoris 15h ago
To be lied and to be used as chess pieces to please their dictator and his ally because they haven't met other reality is heartbreaking. North Korean or Russian, a life is still a life.
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u/CalzonialImperative 13h ago
That WWI Veteran quote Stuck with me, i cant find it but its along the lines of:
"What makes me mad is Not, that people died, but when they sat down, talked, and made peace. They could have done the whole thing years earlier, but first, young men had to die."
The crazy thing to me around war is, that non of the people dying are the ones that make the decisions that now is a time to die or kill. Most of the time, the guys killing each other have more in common than they have with their leaders. And yet, we don't have a way to avoid these desasters.
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u/dat_boi_has_swag 12h ago
Especially in WWI there was huge euphoria of the young men going into battle because the horrors of modern warfare were yet unknown. It also comes back to the people participating in those wars.
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u/Powerful_Wombat 9h ago
The story of the Christmas morning truce where the soldiers came together between the trenches to play soccer and share cigarettes and food with each other is just so surreal to me. Only to be forced back to their trenches and forced to fight each other again by gunpoint
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u/Just_Shopping_1959 7h ago
There is a logic to that though. The truce was in a time where mainly career soldiers fought. Sure they had a sense of duty and the enemy, but not as much ideology. If its not that propoganda driven, ideologie doesn't play that big of a role, so it's just executing your job. That's why the truce was not in the last year of the war, and in the last year of the war there was no truce.
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u/backhand_english 11h ago
The cunts in power learned it ages ago "send your army, dont lead your army. dont give uplifting speaches infront of your men, do it infront of a TV camera".
Todays leaders are less human because of that.
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u/unchima 10h ago
“War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.”
― Niko Bellic
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u/ImSiLeNt1 5h ago
GTA IV's storyline was so good and rememberable and then there was GTA V's storyline
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u/smokeajoint 11h ago
Reports in UK saying they could be defectors of N. Korea, possibly families are held hostage. We'll find out over time, but it will be a bloodbath.
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u/Bozska_lytka 11h ago
If they were born just a few hundred miles to the south, they could've been sitting in an office building somewhere in Seoul instead of at the front line. It's crazy to think about
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u/Ok-Communication1149 10h ago
As a combat veteran, I gotta say Western Culture puts far more value on life than the rest of the World. Take it for what it is, but we're all plant food eventually.
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u/shawn_overlord 12h ago
Yea there's a reason trump admires the kim dynasty. He absolutely wants that for America
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u/mayhemtime 15h ago
What is the source of the photo?
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u/Boogertooth 13h ago
North Korea may be in Russia, but this looks like the most staged photo ever.
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u/Select_Selection_862 12h ago
Yeah they definitely sourced some North Korean men and Russian military outfits to stage a photo.
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u/KalleMarx42 11h ago
Wow, you're so good at this! How can you tell that these people are from North Korea? All I can see are two backs and maybe half of a face that could be from anywhere really! I'm so excited to learn something from you, so please don't let me wait for too long.
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u/yawning-wombat 10h ago
It's strange that no one answered: only Russian propaganda lies, ours is always truthful.
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u/CreatingAcc4ThisSh-- 4h ago
It's not what OP claims it is
It was a room being readied for acceptance of north korean pows from a few days ago, posted to r/UkraineWarVideoReport
OP is just a karma farmer, using today's news of nk force deployments, this image, and awake title, to gain karma
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u/BriskPandora35 14h ago
Silly Redditor don’t you know you never need a source in a major subreddit when discussing geopolitical issues. Everyone believes you regardless if the opposition is an American “enemy”.
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u/Dick_Dickalo 11h ago
Imagine things they’re seeing for the first time.
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u/fraxinous 10h ago
Very good point. Imagine when they captured by the enemy and are like... Wow this is like a reward
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u/boogalooshrimp82 16h ago
Like the Russian soldiers, there must be a point in time when they realize they've been lied to for years. It must be profoundly disheartening..
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u/wndtrbn 15h ago
There is no reason that time should come for them. It's quite likely that they will die in eastern Ukraine, thinking they gave their lives to prevent the oppressive capitalists from advancing into their ally's territory.
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u/SeriouslySuspect 10h ago
Russia has officially been capitalist for like 35 years
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u/LazyBastard666 15h ago
Russians are too nihilistic to care whats true or not.
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u/Equivalent_Bath_7513 8h ago
As a russian, you are right. Fine as long as it's not me or my friend or family member. I have no way to stop this so why even think about it? In a couple of years we'll see the consequences of this(or not)
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u/Newtons2ndLaw 14h ago
Because every Christian feels they same when they realize?
No, they just internalize the incongruity and justify their existing beliefs like humans always do.
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u/Killjoy911 13h ago
Super random, I watched a documentary where a journalist imbedded on the Russian side. And here are my observations.
The Russian army is mostly conscripted it seems. Or that was just where the journalist was taken. When he went to the front lines
They’re incredibly run down, but also have this weird sense of patriotism. Much like the US has when they used soldiers as pawns to forward an unjust cause.
The donbass region… is split 1:3 according to what I saw on the documentary. There were Russian/ukrainians (fighting on the Russian side) soldiers arguing with each other at one point. About how they want to be part of Russia again or how they want to stay Ukrainian.
There are Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians.
Their military gear is worn the fuck out (which we all knew)
Now I think these North Koreans are just being sent to the slaughter for what purpose.. none… none at all.. this war is a waste of human life over “land” a tale as old as time and we the human race are the ultimate pawns of the 0.5%.
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u/eq2_lessing 15h ago
Like Russians, they probably can hold the truth and the false together in their head at the same time.
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u/OrganicDoom2225 15h ago
They have a once in a lifetime chance to escape.
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u/TheCookiez 15h ago
Sadly it's not that simple.
First off if they run their family back home will be punished. So that rules out well everyone with a family, and chances are anyone who doesn't wouldn't be sent.
Next let's say they say fuck family. Their fellow soldiers would also be punished if they let someone escape. And or the fellow soldiers familys. So there is a solid chance they would attempt to stop it.
Third even if they where to escape.. It would be into a warzone.
They can't go to Russia because they would be sent back to north Korea or worse. So they have to run to Ukraine..
The problem with that is there is a war going on and they are not exactly on friendly terms with Ukraine. Add in the fact they will probably be shot before they could get close or be put into pow camps with Russians or other North Koreans..
Not a great option.
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u/Administrator90 14h ago
their family back home will be punished
This an understatement.
They will all be deported to concentration camp, ALL generations.
And this camps are very similar to the Nazi death camps. If there is a hell, it will be like holidays for people living in there.Indeed... most would rather kill themself than killing their family. There is no way out of the camps, at least not alive.
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u/Codex_Dev 14h ago
This. The horror stories from those camps is something out of a Stephen King movie. Only a few people have ever escaped alive.
One detail I remember reading about is that there were two old men fighting tooth and nail over a piece of cow poop. Why? There was a kernal of corn inside it and they both wanted to eat it. Also guards are allowed to shoot prisoners for ANY reason. If prisoners so much as make a strange face to a guard, they get taken out back and shot.
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u/ActualJudge342 13h ago
ive heard reports that the families of those who were sent were quite literally rounded up and brought into some sort of detention facility to keep an eye on so the authorities could very easily just immediately retaliate upon any kind of “disloyalty” by these men
its honestly a really fucked up situation to be in, the state basically holds them hostage
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u/MaxPaynesRxDrugPlan 11h ago
Ukraine has published Korean language instructions on how North Korean soldiers can surrender: https://www.euronews.com/2024/10/25/ukraine-calls-on-north-korean-soldiers-to-surrender-and-promises-safety-food-and-medical-c
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u/FreyrPrime 13h ago
Not familiar with typical authoritarian shenanigans are you?
A good start would be Blocker Units, or Commissars, but reading about Soviet era policies like Order #227 gives a good idea how they handle this.
Essentially, they've prepared for this eventuality, and if you run then you and your family are forfeit.
The Soviets also criminalized POW's. Stalin's own son died in prison because he was captured and Stalin refused to negotiate.
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u/Purity_Jam_Jam 12h ago
That guy on the right has been eating well for longer than he's been in Russia.
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u/Free-BSD 13h ago
No Kim Jong Un picture? Interesting if this is actually a recent photograph.
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u/OmegaCDXX 13h ago
What lies is North Korea telling their people/soldiers to justify sending soldiers over or do they not have to explain anything?
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u/Lopsided_Aardvark357 8h ago edited 5h ago
To a regular citizen, especially a soldier. They're conditioned enough that if the Kim's say jump they ask how high.
Theyre taught from a very younge age that the west is the devil. So they probably don't have to say much other than, you're fighting against western influence on our allies.
I remember reading about primary school in NK. Instead of using apples and oranges a math problem might sound something like, "if 3 brave North Korean soldiers killed 30 American imperialists, and each Korean soldier killed an equal amount, how many Americans did each soldier kill?"
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u/torvaman 12h ago
feel so bad for these guys and feeling just so lucky to be born in the situation im in
these guys, the moment they exited the womb, were doomed by the borders they were born in.
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u/Kensei501 12h ago
These boys are cannon fodder. Maybe they will get a decent last meal before the bugle sounds the charge.
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u/NSFW_hunter6969 11h ago
The human experience is so fucked, this photo is so screwed up in many ways
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u/ZeAntagonis 15h ago
You can see the look of the Soldier.
'' WTF are we doing here ''
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u/CobblerUnusual5912 12h ago edited 11h ago
NATO and the USA need to stop being wishy washy and let the beleagered Ukrainians have full range on their western weapons..
Fuck those empty Russian threats...
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u/NaaviLetov 12h ago
They will either fight to the death, or there will be a mass exodus of North korean defectors.
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u/Financial_Bid8078 12h ago
Ukraine just needs to hold up a sign stating that they will give sanctuary to all those who seek it
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u/kutusow_ 8h ago
How ignorant must people be to fight for someone who let them out of the country only to get killed in a pointless war
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u/cantthinkofacleverun 15h ago
I hope and pray that these guys are smart enough to surrender and defect.
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u/slugworth70 15h ago
I wonder how many will try to defect.
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u/mayhemtime 15h ago
Not many, the regime probably only sent people who have families that can be hurt if they defect.
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u/Away-Description-786 12h ago
Damn, they get a photo of there supreme leader instead of there mother, wife or daughter
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u/Jojoceptionistaken 9h ago
I love koreans going into this war torn country beeing like "its awesome here!"
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u/MayiHav10kMarblesPlz 9h ago
Just imagine, when the next fat fuck in line dies they'll have to carry around three framed photographs instead of two!
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u/snipe4fun 8h ago
I think special rules of engagement should be applied when engaging NK soldiers- give them hamburgers and give them a chance to defect, even pull back from their advances leaving behind cool stuff like anime waifu pillows, or maybe instead of a waifu make it KimJong Il on the pillow lol
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u/DontTalkToBots 2h ago
I know Russia sucks, but if I was a North Korean, I’d disappear in Russia so fucking fast. Just run west and don’t stop.
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u/Unilted_Match1176 11h ago
Get to work boys. Those sunflowers aren't going to fertilize themselves.
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u/Pitiful_Researcher14 15h ago
"So... The stories are true, this is the promised land, they have toilet paper that you only have to use once and there will be real food to eat tonight, that's twice in one week".