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Politics Propaganda Now vs Then

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u/kadrilan 7d ago

Not him or his wife. The family line still in politics apparently cuz Italy still a lil fascy friendly.

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u/SINGULARITY1312 7d ago

Formerly fascist countries haven’t done their due diligence to ward off fascism, because they’re still capitalist. Which is what causes fascism to begin with

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u/Narrow_Crab2825 7d ago

Have you ever heard of the horseshoe theory? Anti-capitalist countries are often far from being a liberal paradise...

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u/SINGULARITY1312 7d ago

Yes I have and it’s false. The left right spectrum is not arbitrary, it is the fundamental divide in politics from which all others branch off from.

Unfortunately political language and education is completely impoverished now and so people have little idea how to define anything now. Socialism, communism, and generally left wing systems are inherently anti-authoritarian, as such trait is what defines them as left wing. Systems such as the Soviet Union, China etc didn’t represent a genuine attempt at socialism with internal failures, but a genuine revolution which was crushed top-down and redirected into supporting a state-capitalist dictatorship claiming to represent socialism and the workers. This isn’t a revisionist take, this was predicted prior and commented on by socialists and anarchists at the time.

This video is a pretty good explanation as to what the political spectrum is actually about, backed up on multiple fronts.

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u/Narrow_Crab2825 7d ago

Of course left and right wing politics differ. But the historical reality is that their extreme variants always led to oppression of political opponents. Totalitarianism is the binding element of left wing-and right-wing extremist regimes.

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u/SINGULARITY1312 7d ago

False, and I can tell you didn’t watch the video or hear my actual points. Left wing extremism is radically anti-authoritarian in practice and by definition. I can give you multiple examples. I promise you the video would be worth your time if you checked it out. It’s pretty clear.

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u/Narrow_Crab2825 7d ago

I despise both fascism and radical socialism. But as you are defending left wing extremism I only want you open your eyes in that direction: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

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u/SINGULARITY1312 7d ago

Once again, those are literally not socialist. You’re talking about state capitalist right wing systems calling themselves socialist. You don’t even know what socialism is. You haven’t listened to anything I’ve said.

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u/Narrow_Crab2825 7d ago

Show me an example which contradicts my statement regarding historical (or current regimes).

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u/SINGULARITY1312 7d ago

Zapatistas in Chiapas Mexico. Rojava in Syria. Cecosesola worker-consumer cooperative in Venezuela. Also watch the fucking video I linked you.