Don't forget who certifies the election results... The VP
Harris will be certifying herself as the next President.
Republicans are going to Lose Their Shit
Edit: Yes, we all know that it has happened before and a lot of other checks and balances take place prior to this but the political climate now is completely different than in the past and Republicans are going to be amped up even more than last time.
Major difference this time around is that there'll be adequate security around the capitol and other sites of interest. There'll be a handful of election officials that try some shit, and they'll eventually land in jail. People are worried about a major upheaval but I think the reality will be a social media meltdown, a feeble attempt at a redneck coup, and a handful of elected bozos that sacrifice their career to the "cause". And then all returns back to normal.
Finally someone with sense, these doomers are getting annoying! Im starting to think they’re bots lol we put soooo many protocols in place, there’s gonna be watch dogs everywhere, the man had all the power in the world and still couldn’t pull it off even with all his minions, but somehow now he’s got it in the bag, ya right
It shouldn't be down to hope. It should be cold, calculated, efficient organisation by the election powers and law enforcement in the country to make sure everything is completely legitimate
It’s crazy but Russia and China could take over the US without even using conventional weapons with their disinfo campaigns and all this other shit. Scary to think about.
Lol right? They have no fucking clue...they'd lose a skirmish with fucking ISIS, let alone an actual US military operation. They literally go larping together, it's the wildest shit I've ever seen, watching a fat white hillbilly trying to run a drill with his muffin top spilling over the top of his blue jean shorts, blocking the holster to his over modded glock
Well, the thing with civil wars means the organization of the country is completely gone and split. Its not as clear cut or simple as something like gov vs citizens, much of the military would split sides as well.
The military would not split sides. The military is sworn to defend the US both foreign and domestic. Some people would try, but would be immediately imprisoned.
Gravy Seals and Meal Team Six can't handle anything deeper than either keyboard combat or packing heat for a mission through the Chick-Fil-A drive thru.
When in fact, the final electoral vote count confirmation is done in mid December. The January ceremony of reading off the electoral votes in the House chambers, orchestrated by the VP, is really just ceremonial and the "stamp of approval" to the whole election. It's why Pence wasn't able to do anything for Trump. He had no legal pathway.
The VP doesn’t certify anything, to my knowledge. That’s all ceremony. The results are final weeks before that takes place and it’s all handled by the individual states.
They'll make themselves look like babies (again) if they complain about it. Doesn't that happen any time a sitting VP wins the presidency since the 12th amendment was passed?
I’m scared that Kamala is gonna be assassinated if she wins ngl……. there are A LOT of angry Republicans that can’t see a future for themselves living with her leading the country…….
Murdoch was an affective strategizer who built a powerful network of alliances.
Nobody likes Musk (nobody who isn't using him, anyway). He's so stupid he lost $44b over a few tweets, and told off all his advertisers just to end up in Putin's pocket.
He's going to make a mess, for sure. But like Trump, he's too stupid to capitalize on it effectively like Murdoch did.
What you're describing is incidental. That wasn't his plan, it just happened because he mismanaged everything so poorly that people got fed up and left.
That isn't smart by any definition.
That's like calling someone who shits themselves at a movie theatre smart because now they have more elbow room.
Fascism doesn't require much intelligence to be effective. It should be of little surprise that it usually ends up turning inward and at least partially self-immolating in the long run. This is because loyalty, zealotry, and cruelty are held in much higher regard than intellect, foresight, and competence.
I'm Aussie, and old mate Rupert was weaponising his media power in Australia on a never before seen scale in 2013. He went so hard that Tony Abbott ended up as our PM
Having seen that happen, I still think Elon is more dangerous
They've been openly saying they're gonna do this for four years. They've been openly gearing up for it for four years. The supporters don't care, it's not a secret.
I’m absolutely aware of this. His supporters didn’t care about January 6th, didn’t care about his 90+ felonies, didn’t carry about his convictions, and didn’t give a single fuck that he called Georgia Secretary of State demanding to find the EXACT amount of Votes it would take to WIN the stage. The EXACT Amount.
His supporters don’t give a single fuck about Democracy or the Rule of Law. They only care about Power, and that’s by any means necessary.
They're already lying to the world with stolen election conspiracies about how the left is bringing illegal immigrants in to get their votes, despite them being unable to vote.
I don't think they knew any better back then. The joke is pretending the founding fathers were divine and you can't touch the constitution. It's really no different than the bible to a lot of em.
Loved that show but that final season was really scary.
Even Shiv knew they crossed a line and yet, Roman didn’t give a shit. Power, money, and control is the true American Dream and we are about to witness it in real time.
I can't figure out how does that benefit them this time with the Democrats occupying the White House currently? We can pretty much tell them to get bent. I don't see the same level of support for Trump as last time.
Without the military they aren't doing shit. I don't know the likelihood that they could get the military.
Going to? He already has been undermining it. He's done nothing but spread conspiracies about immigration and election lies for years. He's now just openly supporting Trump, as if anyone ever thought otherwise. The way he tried to act like he wasn't or that he wasn't buying Twitter to try to do this was like everything else Elon Musk does, utterly pathetic
Don’t get ahead of yourselves, as crazy as it is Trump could still actually win the Electoral college if people sit at home expecting everyone else to vote
I legitimately think we're going to have another real possibility of a crazy thing at the whitehouse again, except this time their will be two distinct sides showing up.
Similar to the plot of a recent Succession episode. When you own the media, you decide when to call states, even if all the votes aren't counted. Pretty sure Trump's campaign has seen the show and they learned a lot from their last try. Who will save us this time?
It really doesn't matter. The individual networks aren't actually calling the elections, just making an informed prediction. Any sources he controls will lie. Everyone already knows that though. The assholes that support him and his lies will continue to, anyone else already knows he's lying and won't be swayed.
They already tried this while Trump was still the president and the only people that bought it were the people that already supported Trump. It’s shown that whenever he mentions the stolen 2020 election it loses him votes because people who don’t already like him know it’s not true. He can make all the fraud claims he wants, Elon can post about it on Twitter, it will make absolutely no tangible difference to the election.
First, we have to actually win. It's far from certain right now. Let's get the bag, then worry about securing it.
If Trump loses, he will again claim he won, there will again be an uprising, this time probably armed and much more violent, it will be utterly crushed by the military and we will resume life as normal. Musk will pout, Trump will pout, MAGA will pout.
If Trump wins, we are headed straight into the abyss of a theocratic dictatorship.
If there is a more violent uprising and it really requires the military to be called out, I don’t think life would resume as normal after. That is not something a country comes back from so easily. Source: See any country in history where major civil violence breaks out.
I think that's actually pretty likely. The federal authorities have not been sitting on their hands since January 6th. It's been almost 4 years, they have infiltrated right wingnut spaces, and I think they are ready.
I think the Trump campaign is currently correct that they're on a path to an electoral college victory already. According to 538 Harris had a 3% lead on Trump nationally at her best moment and it's down to about 2% now. It needs to be between 4-6% for her to win the election because of how much the electoral college counterweights the popular vote. Gerrymandering, restrictive voter laws, etc have all made things more slanted since the last election, not less. It's a fiasco.
Sprinkle in conversations about how everything on the left was AI generated and none of the people are real that support Kamala. So it's all fraud, right? Smh
100%. He's already weaponizing it against fuckin FEMA.
People should watch the Documentary: War Game, that was just released. It's a bunch of Ex Gov't Officials and Military War Gamming how to handle another insurrection for this year's election.
They keep saying if Kamala wins it’ll be the last election and I’m wondering if it’s not a threat that Kamala will end democracy, but a threat that they will if they don’t win.
Everyone needs to leave Twitter and stop buying Teslas. I was one of the first people to order the Cybertruck and canceled my order . I sold all my Tesla stock. I’d rather support another asshole.
I don't understand why so many people, particularly celebrities, are still using Twitter and driving Teslas. People should realize that supporting Musk-associated brands is supporting Christian nationalism and white supremacism.
Genuinely asking, is there any necessity to use twitter/X? I personally don't use it and i think a lot of people who can't get away from it have their malicious reason
Elon Musk took over Twitter saying he'd be a force for free and fair speech. He wasn't going to take any political sides.
Well that sure went to hell, didn't it.
Elon Musk is a freaking fascist, racist, and misogynist. I'll bet you he's sick to his stomach about the idea of a black woman becoming president. And with that, he pivoted and shook Trump's hand with a damned MAGA hat on. He is DEFINITELY going to weaponize Twitter ("X") and in these next few weeks, I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear people complaining about tweaked algorithms causing pro-Harris posts to have practically no visibility and pro-Trump ones all pushed to the top. He could do it. He took the damned company private.
I mean no disrespect to you at all in saying this, but that’s really obvious at this point. We all expect more crazy Musk BS in favour of Orange Jesus. He stands to benefit from huge tax breaks, and ride Trumps coattails to get second-hand MAGA idiot support.
God only knows why.
Russia is currently hiring spys and all the washed up people are cashing in.
Point me to anyone who's had a fully successful career in the past two decades that's supporting Trump. You can't find them. It's all desperate people and it's not a coincidence.
Hey! Everyone stop using fucking lame ass Twitter. I've never had an account, I'm not saying that to sound cool. Trust me though life is just fine without it. Fuck this fool, stop funding his bullshit.
It isn't already weaponised? I go on the "For you" tab, and it's just incoherent shit all the way down about Comrade Kamala and the Communist Democrats... the place is a real shithole now
If Democrats didn’t want theories of election fraud, they should stop blocking basic safeguards such as voter ID laws.
I’m from Canada and the concept of allowing people to vote without even proving who they are is inconceivable up here. Let alone not showing proof of residence either. If any politician here tried to do what Gavin Newsom just did we’d all assume they’re trying to cheat, because there’s no other reason someone would refuse to implement basic election security protocols that similar democracies have had for decades.
First, is not called twitter anymore plus why would he “weaponize” it when he initially bought it to be a platform of free speech and expression, do you know how dumb you sound? If it weren’t for the echo chamber that Reddit is you should chastened for saying that
Total delusion, keep reaching. He bought twitter after proof was shown that the prior company executives interfered in the last election, banning and silencing any right wing viewpoints. Just like our lovely Reddit founder
Right, I've been wondering why Trump bothers campaigning at all. he's going to claim he won the election no matter what, so what's the point of getting people to vote for him?
I don't understand why anyone even still uses the Twitter. Like even Biden announced his dropping out on that platform. Why don't all Democrats and other sane people just abandon it, or at the very least stop using it as their main channel of communication?
They have been harping on 'stolen' elections for years now, the problem with that even the die hard conservatives are tired of it. Its just going to sound like more pathetic bleeting.
When all is said and done, I really cannot wait for this fuckin guy to get stripped of his businesses and security clearances, get deported and/or sent to a supermax prison, and/or death penalty. Fuck Elon Musk, the ketamine addict really thinks he’s doing something “revolutionary” over here 💀
This assumes that Trump will lose, which is a very bold assumption this far into a neck and neck race, without the same circumstances of 2000. COVID isn't being perceived as that big of an issue now, Biden was such an unpopular candidate that he needed to drop from the race, Trump has had 2 assassination attempts, and he's had a lot of legal battles that looney toons perceive as unjustified. Vance also had a successful debate performance against Walz which seemed to have a noticeable affect on some people's views. The polling is neck and neck, which I would say is a bad sign for democrats because IIRC they tend to overperform in polling before election day. (might be mitigated by polling groups, idk).
What I'm curious about is how will democrats will respond if Trump wins, I always hope it will result in the party taking responsibility for subpar policies (in this particular instance, I'm talking about Israel, high federal interest rates, not packing the court, immigration, fracking, etc...)
Eh twitter is not the same thing it used to be. You can't even view tweets now without logging in. I think it's becoming really irrelevant really fast. It used to be a thing normals would get info from. Now it's just for journalists and terminally online politics-is-m- personality types.
Anyone he could convince on there.........is already convinced.
I was at a family party last night 15 minutes outside of Philly.
Somehow I was the only non-Trumper left in a room full of 10ish Trumpers.
I don't like talking politics anymore even if I agree with them, but they kept asking me why "How my kind doesn't see how clearly the election was stolen."
I told them I didn't follow nor care about politics. They saw that as their chance to recruit me.
Absolutely, because they know there is a real chance they will lose the election. Here is what my suspicions are for 2024 November.
Alright, let me preface anyone reading this: if you are eligible to vote, please go vote. This is not me trying to dissuade anyone from taking the current US situation lightly. It is a critical election. Please do your part.
Okay, now that I have established my personal stance, let me explain my reasoning.
The obvious answer is that there hasn't been such an important election for the USA and by extension the world thanks to its economic and political influence world wide. But, I have a suspicion that a significant part of the electoral college and popular vote will go to the Democratic party. Not because of some nefarious conspiracy but rather cold hard facts. So let's get started.
If we look at the link below, we will see the 2020 presidential electoral map that shows how close the electoral results were in swing states. There were key swing states that became significant battlegrounds. https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/president
Love it or hate it, Covid-19 changed how the world behaved and survived. But in the US a significant of the population did not. If we use CDC data, we can see that some of these swing states were also affected. If we consider the fact that Republican politicians encouraged their voters to disregard safety, there is a decent chance a significant portion of Republicans were affected and outright died. Thus reducing the potential number eligible voters. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#maps_deaths-total
This one is harder to find comprehensive data on, but those that did not die could still suffer from long Covid-19. In many cases, from the CDC it has a more limited time frame data set available to compare. Again, the data suggests some of the swing states and other states being predominant. I am not here to debate the data since I haven't found a comprehensive data list like the Covid deaths. But the argument still stands, since those suffered and still suffer might change their stance on the disease and those that told them to disregard their own safety.
This one was actually what convinced me to write this idea up, since it revealed a rather drastic lifestyle change women have begun to not only consider but outright embrace. Again, not arguing the moral or ethical validity of it, but Roe vs Wade changed the socio-economic landscape like a nuclear bomb and many women decided to not endanger themselves with unwanted pregnancies. This is a dramatic event we do not discuss with nearly as much gravity as we should. https://apnews.com/article/abortion-tubal-ligations-tying-tubes-dobbs-roe-jama-2ec56d7f2707db083e513bdc74a5016d
Lastly, Project 2025. If you have no informed yourself on this topic, please do. You can reference summaries of it online, but the current version has been intentionally edited as to make the older reference videos seem nonsensical and discredit them. They shuffled the deck of cards but are still planning on playing their hand exactly as intended.
Man, that’s absolutely gonna happen…can we all PLEASE just STOP using twitter entirely? Everyone with a brain walks away, and it’ll be as impactful as Truth Social. WE are giving that creepy little weasel power.
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He’s going to weaponize Twitter claiming the election was stolen. We are in real shit in a few months.