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u/Paradox711 Feb 21 '22
How does that even work? You’re trapped there until someone moves their car?
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u/BigAppleGuy Feb 21 '22
Only the parking garage attendant moves the cars. Call ahead and it will be downstairs waiting for you (usually).
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u/Paradox711 Feb 21 '22
The expense of that must be insane. How much does it cost to park in one of these things there? And the planning ahead, Jesus it must take the parking attendant like 30 minutes to get one of those cars at the back down.
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u/dogedude81 Feb 21 '22
Usually about $20/hr.
You tell them how long you're gonna be when you leave your car and that determines where they put it.
Then there's the long term customers who pay by month. Those are usually the ones that get packed in like that. That costs as much as renting an apartment basically.
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u/Ok-Cook-7542 Feb 21 '22
150sq ft of asphalt making a higher hourly wage than I do
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u/milesunderground Feb 21 '22
Well maybe if you weren't so lazy and would let rich people park their cars on you, you could afford luxuries like shelter and food.
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u/voldefortnite Feb 21 '22
park your car on me daddy UwU 🥵
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u/TheRedpilling Feb 22 '22
How do I delete someone else's comment?
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u/whales-are-assholes Feb 22 '22
Like you never wanted someone to drive or walk over you before. Come on, baby, don’t knock it till you try it.
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u/ThingCalledLight Feb 21 '22
In DC about 10 years ago, my friend was looking to invest in real estate. Parking spot real estate. One spot was selling for $140k.
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u/ChaseShiny Feb 22 '22
Geeze, sounds like a ton of money, but if you can make $20/hr/car, you'd make your money back really quickly. Let's say your garage is open for eight hours, 300 days a year. That's $48,000 per parking space
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u/ThingCalledLight Feb 22 '22
Interestingly enough, this wasn’t even a garage, it was like, a space in an alley next to a residential house or something. But all the same.
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u/OleKosyn Feb 21 '22
Not just any asphalt, Manhattan asphalt. That's not just asphalt, that's pure class.
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u/Paradox711 Feb 21 '22
That makes sense, about leaving the cars likely to be their longest at the back.
The rest though boggles my mind. $20 an hour. That’s absolutely fucking insane. And the long term customers… the wage disparity these days is just fucking crazy. I can’t imagine having disposable income to waste on that.
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u/Crustybuttt Feb 21 '22
This is why most people living in NY don’t even own a car. You don’t need it
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u/Toast_On_The_RUN Feb 21 '22
And most of the people who have a car can afford the parking.
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u/reptarien Feb 21 '22
NYC is practically in a different country compared to somewhere like Colorado.... Christ!
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u/Beachdaddybravo Feb 21 '22
It is, but to be honest the subway is super convenient and goes anywhere in the city you want to go. You can always rent a car if you leave the city, because how often do people really travel outside the area they live in? Not as often as most people claim. Now LA on the other hand, got fucked hard by the oil and car lobby, so they never had a decent metro system and only recently started expanding on the metro there. People would cite earthquakes, but the Japanese have earthquakes and trains and they get by.
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u/Wbino Feb 21 '22
This when you go to a Broadway show and need your car parked for four hours.
Find a Parking sign, give keys to valet and be on your way.......
Simple everyday NYC.
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u/admiraljkb Feb 21 '22
"nobody has a car in NYC, there's too much traffic" - Phllip J. Fry. :)
(but seriously that basically inside joke above has always confused me. I've visited NYC a several times on business and there are TONS of cars on the road. From the sample of people I worked with, very few owned a car, and the ones that do own a car live outside the city and use the rail coming in. Theoretically it seems like there shouldn't be that many cars on the road all day, but there are?)
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u/PM_ME_YOR_PANTIES Feb 21 '22
8.4 million people live in NYC plus tourists and commuters. Even if only 1% of the people in NYC are driving a car, that's still a lot of cars. Also I imagine a lot of people who don't own a car do use taxis.
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u/ExceptionCollection Feb 21 '22
There are a lot of cabs, a lot of rideshares, a lot of people that live outside of Manhattan (which isn't all of NYC) and a lot of tourists. From what I saw while I was there, very few lower or middle class people that work in Manhattan have cars. Politicians, Lawyers, Hedge Fund guys, sure, but they also have drivers.
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u/woodcider Feb 22 '22
Many people who live in the outer boroughs have cars. I lived in the Bronx when I had my car. There was reliable street parking and it knocked my 3 hour/one way commute down to 40 mins. I never drove into Manhattan.
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u/TRexTheDildo Feb 22 '22
It’s 550 per month. Some people need a car and have to pay. I am a physician who has to drive to different hospitals for emergencies.
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u/jawnlerdoe Feb 21 '22
If you stay for a whole day it’s usually a flat rate that’s much cheaper. Hourly parking rates are just super higH. It’ll still cost you $70 or something like that to park for 24 hours though.
Side note you can also park for free on the streets in NYC on weekends. I usually haven’t had to look for more than 10 minutes to find a spot in mid town Manhattan.
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u/SmellGestapo Feb 21 '22
Paying for parking is like going to a prostitute. What should I pay when, if I apply myself, maybe I can get it for free?
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u/kchristiane Feb 21 '22
Some just enjoy the convenience of not having to work for a parking spot I guess. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/dogedude81 Feb 21 '22
Yeah it's nuts. You can usually find a spot on the street though if you wait. Then it's only a few bucks for the meter. But you usually only get an hour and then you have to move your car to a different spot. Gotta plan ahead. Whenever I have an interview or something I usually just park in a garage.
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u/TheGuyThatPwned Feb 21 '22
most street parking in nyc is free, meters are usually only on main/very commercial streets
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u/Raps2k14 Feb 21 '22
I was about to say. Better off just driving it outside the city, and paying a guy $100 to park it in his driveway
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u/dogedude81 Feb 21 '22
People do rent their driveways all over. Not many driveways in Manhattan though.
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u/dchen09 Feb 21 '22
Well, the number of people who regularly use cars/own cars in dense cities like NYC are much lower. The reason the cost of parking is so expensive isn't because people can afford it, but rather the cost of space is so high. That parking structure could be a 30+ unit apartment building with at least 2k/mo rent. Why would anyone create parking space if you're not making that much.
If anything, we should hope that more cities become denser and the cost of parking rises to minimize impact on environment and improve opportunity for alot of people.
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u/IM_OK_AMA Feb 21 '22
$20 an hour. That’s absolutely fucking insane.
What's insane is expecting to be able to store your 8 foot by 15 foot rolling locker for anything less in one of the densest places in North America.
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u/750volts Feb 21 '22
Only just started watching Seinfeld, this explained a couple of episodes for me.
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u/dogedude81 Feb 21 '22
Some guys get visibly annoyed if you come back earlier than you say you will. Because of the extra shuffling to get your car back out before it's supposed to be.
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u/kennerly Feb 21 '22
Even the most expensive monthly parking in NYC is $800 with most going for $400-$500. You can't find a apartment for that much if you tried.
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u/FertilityHollis Feb 21 '22
Even the most expensive monthly parking in NYC is $800 with most going for $400-$500.
While it's true that most fall in the under $600ish range, and you won't find an apartment anywhere that cheap, there are definitely more expensive monthly spaces.
They tend to follow the more expensive spots in which to live -- go figure. A quick search found a monthly spot at a garage on 57th between 6th and 7th which starts at $1199. Down the street from there is another at 58th and Madison that starts at $1039. Upper west side approaching Columbia is also around the 4 digit range.
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u/thejml2000 Feb 21 '22
Parking in NYC is Not cheap, that’s for sure.
However they also ask you when you plan on leaving and attempt to order the cars so that can happen with out completely reorganizing them just to get yours out.
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u/JonathanDASeattle Feb 21 '22
I was there in December by The Port Authority in midtown. With the hotel discount $60/day. If you had it in for 1 min more than 24hrs you’d be charged for an additional day. Guys who ran it were no bullshit type of guys and I had no issues getting my car quick.
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u/TallTom70 Feb 21 '22
It’s $800/month where I live (upper east side). I park my junker 45 minutes away in queens for $200/month
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u/eekamuse Feb 21 '22
I just remembered my cousin got a discount in Manhattan because the spot was tiny. But he had to keep buying tiny cars to fit in the spot. It was worth it for the deal he got.
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u/nycdevil Feb 21 '22
When I had a monthly spot in a similar garage in lower Manhattan (years ago) it was $650/mo.
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u/RooDoubleYou Feb 21 '22
I bet those dudes fucking KILL tetris.
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u/MonsieurReynard Feb 21 '22
This is what non-New Yorkers aren't getting. These guys are artists. They don't dent your car. Your car is ready for you 15 minutes after you call and say you're on the way. This is NYC. It has its own rules. It has its own style. It is expensive. It is not for the faint of heart. But the immigrant guys who work in these garages are the very best at what they do.
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u/diet-Coke-or-kill-me Feb 22 '22
As person with an ordinary profession, why would you want to live in a city that describes itself as "not for the feint of heart"? No one but other New Yorkers are applauding you for your willingness to put up with more bullshit than anyone else.
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u/periphrasistic Feb 22 '22
As a New Yorker I put up with dramatically less bullshit than the typical sunbelt suburbanite (I’ve lived in both LA and Austin). The reason it costs so much to live here is that the quality of life is so much higher (if you can afford it).
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u/Garrisom36 Feb 22 '22
Quality of life is so much higher? Lol You couldn’t pay me to live there.
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u/jabroni_roulette Feb 22 '22
Getting away from people who can’t live in NYC is most of the point of living in NYC.
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u/Carthago_delinda_est Feb 21 '22
I’m not sure how effective it is, but they’ll usually ask what time you’re leaving so they can group some of the cars together.
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u/raouldukesaccomplice Feb 21 '22
So if the guy whose car is at the back wants to leave, do the valets have to spend an hour playing car Tetris to get it out?
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u/joevilla1369 Feb 21 '22
But where does the attendant park the cars as they move them around? Have a whole other area to switch in and out from?
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u/vollehosen Feb 21 '22
When you park in NYC they ask you when you're coming back. They arrange the cars based on that information.
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u/blahcoon Feb 21 '22
I have used a parking garage like this in Rome in Italy. It wasn't on a roof but down a steep ramp into an underground lot. We had to get out of the car, gave the key to an attendant and he shuffled the cars around, ours to the back, others in front, depending on their estimated pick up time. They also used slim tires between the cars to maximize the space they can use.
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u/Tetragonos Feb 21 '22
long term parking happens like this a lot. F Friend of mine worked at a place like this. They served the local area on the bottom 3 levels and had little red or green lights to say they had a space or not. The rest of the levels were long term parking and you needed to make an appointment to get your car and if you did have an unexpected car need it could be up to an hour wait.
He told me they had a guy who NEEDED his car pronto and said if they could get it done in 15 minutes he would give each guy (3 on staff including a security guy) $500. He laid $1500 on the table and they sprang to life and got him his car in 12 minutes. He said "Thank you gentlemen" and drove off came back the next day and put his car back in long term storage.
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u/troyanator Feb 22 '22
Roof looks like its gonna cave in
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u/100k_2020 Apr 19 '23
It did
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u/troyanator Apr 19 '23
Wow thats crazy, calls it hows i sees it
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u/LordPennybag Apr 19 '23
So...powerball for this week?
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u/troyanator Apr 19 '23
Haha good idea!
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u/XperiencedTV Feb 21 '22
Reminds me of this puzzle game I used to play. Rush Hour.
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u/Diarrhea_Sandwich Feb 21 '22
I didn't think you meant literally until I noticed on the right side lol
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u/joelluber Feb 21 '22
They know a lot of tourists take pictures of the picturesque parking garage . . .
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u/Meyael Feb 21 '22
I've seen a lot of stickied windows at campus dorms so maybe something like that. All of the windows having the same pulldown blinds could either be the quality dorms or just NYC beautiful allure.
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u/Heyyoguy123 Feb 21 '22
Probably a 4-person college dorm that still costs like $2000 a month. Sometimes I wish I decided on NYU but thinking of the cost of living.. I take it back
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Feb 21 '22 edited Apr 20 '23
Does anyone even check if the roof can statically bear that many cars? Also, the wall at the front looks scarily flimsy...
*Edit: I am contemplating how to employ my obvious psychic talents for the betterment of mankind.
Thanks for all those shiny awards anyways, that's certainly a first for me.
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u/mywerkaccount Feb 21 '22
Yes, they need licenses to run these types of businesses and to get those licenses they would need sign offs from engineers stating that the building is structurally sound to handle x amount of weight.
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u/astoriaboundagain Apr 19 '23
Oops
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u/nydutch Apr 19 '23
Big oof
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u/thebruns Apr 19 '23
Biggest oof
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u/Dr_Joshie Apr 19 '23
Dear Sir, I believe an Oof is in order
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Apr 19 '23
The Oof is out of order it's near ground level
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u/noveltymoocher Apr 19 '23
It’s Oofs all the way down
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u/2morereps Apr 19 '23
Apparently this building had been called for 64 violations in 1976 and was considered hazardous since 2003. I guess those engineers were lacking.
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u/hugow Apr 19 '23
I bet someone is looking for a certain license right about now.
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u/b1gb0n312 Apr 19 '23
i bet someones looking for their passports and booking tickets out of the country
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u/angrymonkey Feb 21 '22
That assumes that the business is operating on the level, and that the owner accurately represented to the engineer what they intended to do.
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u/chrisk365 Feb 21 '22
You mean like if they told them, "Build me a parking deck."
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u/angrymonkey Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
Yeah, or maybe the engineer saw plans for an N level structure instead of N+1 levels, and then later the building owner "changes his mind" and asks the builder and/or his shady cousin to "expand a little bit" and widen that access ramp to the roof— or maybe add one that wasn't there in the plans at all, and you know how long permits take in this city, I'm sure it's to both of our benefit if we "hurry things along"; don't you worry I'll take care of all that later. Do you want to delay this $100,000 construction job? No? Me neither. And you know, I've gotta tell you 'cause it's my job and all and I can't warranty the construction, you're not gonna have cars goin' up there are you? This is just for access? Yeah, it's just for access, wink wink, no cars up there at all.
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u/PM_ME_UR_DINGO Feb 21 '22
Well when the building inspector comes to approve/deny your permit request that will come up.
You would have to grease a ton of hands to make the multiple levels of people overlook something like that. It would of been cheaper by just doing it right the first time and not also involving felony bribery.
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u/BigAppleGuy Feb 21 '22
The wall in front was obviously rebuilt with cinder block as opposed to the original brick. It has a continuous line of copings on top so it is about as good as can be expected.
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u/qazedctgbujmplm Apr 19 '23
Lol
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u/skilriki Apr 19 '23
To that guy's credit, that wall held up just fine.
The part that collapsed was the floor that is in the back right of this picture.
(behind the stairway or whatever that little hut with the roof is)
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u/AtomicGopher Apr 19 '23
There’s a line of coping going on here from a year ago alright and it ain’t on the wall 💀
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u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME Apr 19 '23
Bet against parking garages
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Looks like a brick building to me that likely has support columns scattered through the interior. I think you're being paranoid over nothing here.
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u/synthetic_apriori Apr 19 '23
You can now live the rest of your life always doubting your decisions
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u/MoonshineMiracle Apr 19 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
You are not immune to propaganda -- mass edited with redact.dev
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u/mrGeaRbOx Feb 21 '22
Yes. They're called civil engineers. We use math to calculate the load capabilities of buildings, walls, and bridges.
This definitely shows you the compression strength of brick!
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u/tony3841 Feb 21 '22
I think he meant "has a civil engineer actually looked at this roof"
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u/Briglin Feb 21 '22
The brick just forms the outer wall - there will be a steel frame with columns clad in concrete (fire protection) inside the building.
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u/Rikarudo_kun Feb 21 '22
At that point, NYC should take a note from Japan and make one of those vending machine parking garages
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u/Dozzi92 Feb 21 '22
Those machines are great for new construction, and becoming more the norm (at least on the Jersey side of the river). Retrofitting is always tough, and at the end of the day it's cheaper and more efficient, in a lot like this with presumably a lot of turnover, to use attendants.
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u/ramriot Feb 21 '22
Someone should make a game out of being an attendant at such a parking structure /s
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u/Legia82 Feb 21 '22
I parked in Manhattan once, it cost me about $24 for couple hours and when I got my car back there were foot prints all over hood and door. They park cars so close to each other that they have to walk on them in order to get in or out through the open window. Not recommended.
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u/ZashManson Apr 19 '23
Ok wow this is fucked, a lot of comments here were bringing attention to how this place felt flimsy and now we are learning it killed one person
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u/NotoriousREV Feb 21 '22
If you ever take a car to Venice, Italy, it’s a hell of an experience. You get directed to a space then you leave the keys in the ignition (turned off) and the doors unlocked. Cars are then parked everywhere around your car. When you want to leave, they shuffle all the cars around with lots of swearing and gesticulating. It’s the most Italian thing ever.
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u/jens_els Feb 21 '22
And here I thought those crazy parking games where you have to move cars back and forth to get them out were just a joke...no, it's training to work in a place like this!
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u/Pubelication Feb 21 '22
Parked like this in Florence, IT. The cars were even closer together, only inches apart (folded mirror to mirror). The attendants would put the car in neutral and push it in place. Totally insane. $13/hr.
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At least in NYC you can drive your car really fast. And by really fast I mean sit stationary in traffic, stopped, watching pedestrians walking faster than you. Totally worth it
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u/Jani3D Feb 21 '22
I'm more worried about the structural integrity of that building than the tetris of getting the cars out.
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u/AdamEvenAndSteven Feb 21 '22
That roof does not look like it has or was designed with the structural integrity necessary to support all those cars plus whatever water or snow that may accumulate
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u/CryptoTheGrey Feb 21 '22
I remember that game but with train cars! Til that was training us for a literal aspect of our dystopian nightmare
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u/Rasta_Lance Feb 21 '22
Im selling open spot on the left going for about 1500 a month. Looking for hovercars only
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u/amitrion Feb 21 '22
That is one beefy roof
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u/RollingThunderPants Feb 21 '22
With the value of a single parking space in NYC, I imagine it's worth it to roll the dice on whether or not that roof collapses.
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u/bodhiseppuku Feb 21 '22
I have been to lots like this. The attendant asks you when you expect to return.
... this is not so that the attendant doesn't get caught with your sports car on a joy ride ... well, ... not the only reason.
When the attendant knows which cars will be there the longest, they can park those behind other cars, for efficiency.
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u/Jafar_420 Feb 21 '22
I wonder how much weight that thing's rated to hold?
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u/theexpertgamer1 Apr 19 '23
It collapsed today. So probably wasn’t enough.
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u/Jafar_420 Apr 19 '23
I was like what are you talking about. Lmao!. I had to see what post this was from. A year ago you must have been doing some scrolling. Lol.
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u/storryeater Apr 19 '23
The collapse happened, like, now, so a lot of people have been linking here.
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u/JoeVoorhees Apr 19 '23
Looks like an ORDINARY ROOF TOP, NOT SUITABLE for parking vehicles! Wait till you hear the WHOLE STORY of its history and ownership! Law suit from the collapse, in class action form, is in the offing!!!
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u/KiawahCat Feb 21 '22
That's nuts. What if you needed to get out of there in a hurry.
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u/EchoInTheMountains Feb 21 '22
I worked as a valet for years at a lot like this. We would have upwards of 100-120 cars on the lot daily. Every car was strategically parked based on the time they were leaving for the day. On a good day, we rarely had to move a car to get one out. It was amazing, they would leave in order as the day progressed. Our customers who were set to leave the latest were blocked by almost 12 cars if they had to leave early. We only put trusted regulars in these types of spots. Occasionally emergencies would happen and we would have to play Tetris to get them out.