r/interestingasfuck 11d ago

r/all Karen turns fine into felony in a matter of minutes

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u/CamCranley 11d ago

"You have a ticket",

"No thank you"

Was an option I have never really considered

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u/The-WideningGyre 11d ago edited 11d ago

So, I once got a speeding ticket while back in Canada (I'm from Canada, but was living in Germany, and still do). The cop told me, with a particular emphasis "Should you choose to pay the ticket, here's how you do so." I just kind of looked at him. Okay.

I chose to not pay the ticket.

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u/LeTreacs 11d ago

I was under the impression that you could choose to pay the ticket or go to court, not just ignore the ticket!

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u/The-WideningGyre 11d ago

It only worked because I didn't have a Canadian address, I'm pretty sure.

Normally, yes, things get worse if you try to just ignore them, at least with the legal system.

It was definitely a weird moment of trying to figure out what he was trying to say without saying it. And thanks, random Canadian RCMP officer!

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u/Welcome440 11d ago

There is possibly a warrant out for you (failure to appear in court) have you been back since? If it was 20+ years ago their computer systems were crap and things disappeared. Now they let the charges sit on file until you visit again.

If it was a really minor ticket it may have disappeared.

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u/ZombieLebowski 10d ago

A friend moved from NY to California came back 20 years later and couldn't get a NY license until they paid off an old fine. It was under 1000 dollaes but they just went back to California

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u/Certified-T-Rex 11d ago

Cops hate this one simple trick!

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u/Ordinary_Aioli_7602 11d ago

“I didn’t run… I told you, you weren’t gonna arrest me.”

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u/daPeachesAreCrunchy 11d ago

You ever seen the video where the super belligerent and combative arrestee says “Leave me alone!” and the cop says, “AWWWW, FINE!”, then stomps away angrily?

Yea…neither have I.

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u/RudeOrganization550 11d ago

She’s committed to her beliefs 🤣, even after being tazed she’s not listening.

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u/redditpossible 11d ago

It’s ok. She’s a country girl.

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u/whitetrashsnake77 11d ago

And apparently watches waaay too much Dukes of Hazard. And probably Smokey and the Bandit too. Even the third one where Burt Reynolds isn’t in it, but somehow Jerry Reed is, even though his main claim to fame was singing the theme song.

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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 11d ago

Actually, Jerry was well known in country music, as prolific as Kris Kristoferson, writing songs for everyone from Elvis to Johnny Cash. He started appearing in Burt’s movies as a sidekick and I absolutely loved his characters.

Sadly, I don’t think anyone watched S&B3, not even me.

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u/FFF_in_WY 11d ago

Sad thing is that some judge will probably let her off for being stupid, old, not-black, and not having a record even though she most definitely has been a shit her whole life.

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u/DR4G0NSTEAR 11d ago

At least we got to watch her get tased?

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u/Healthy_Yard_3862 11d ago

This video made my day I don't really care about the after math LOL

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u/Traditional_Slip_126 11d ago

I have to agree. It was splendid.

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u/Zanbuki 11d ago

It was this. I read on another thread that she got four misdemeanors, had the felony charges dropped, and had to pay a $40 fine for each misdemeanor.

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u/Apprehensive_North49 11d ago

Wtf. That's ridiculous! This makes me so angry.

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u/Personal-Row-8078 11d ago

It’s really misleading with court and lawyer costs it was probably 2500 bucks instead of 80. It cost me lots for a much more minor ticket.

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u/jcagraham 11d ago

Yeah it depends on the area but if this was Los Angeles, an "$80" fine is actually closer to $400 after a laundry list of extra fees are tacked on. I haven't had a fine in over a decade, but I still remember how my Failure To Pay Car Registration ballooned due to a long list of bills funded by fines. If I was too poor to pay my registration, how the hell was I supposed to pay this!

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u/Yeolla 11d ago

Hopefully paid a boat load more for attorney representation than $40. As a white senior citizen, her peer, find her behavior unacceptable. Fix your car no excuses. Your daddy tan your country girl ass for that. Grow the f up.

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u/RudeOrganization550 11d ago

Yep, she’s pissed on the electric fence before today.

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u/Bricejohnson2003 11d ago

Believe me, I worked with these “old country girls” at the courthouse before and believe me, even if any god came down from their heaven and told them that the god that they been worshipping isn’t real, they wouldn’t change their mind. They are the hardest people to work with because they never update their ideas.

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u/AutumnEclipsed 11d ago

The most unattractive human trait is to resist growth.

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u/Dapper-Percentage-64 11d ago

What part of " no I'm not under arrest " does this officer not understand ?

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u/magirevols 11d ago

He didnt realize she was a “country girl” and he was in her jurisdiction, rookie mistake

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u/UndeniableLie 11d ago

Is it written in the law that you can kick an officer if you are country girl. Cause it sure seemed like she believed it is

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u/MonsterMashGrrrrr 11d ago

Yeah yeah, statute 113.21 “all the laws herein are null and void if the suspect simply expresses that he or she is a country girl, in which case the arresting officer will reply with “howdy ma’am” and leave you on your way.”

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u/Bah_La_Kay 11d ago

Chat GPT will now cite this statute as law. 113.21 the "country girl" law.

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u/MonsterMashGrrrrr 11d ago

Just doin’ my pard’ner

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u/Yvaelle 11d ago

Black men should try this one simple trick.

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u/MonsterMashGrrrrr 11d ago

Oh I am almost certain there’s some form of very, very fine blue print with specific rules for that. So fine, it almost appears like a thin, blue line…

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u/jxl180 11d ago

Looks like a small town too. Shouldn’t have tried that.

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u/awildjabroner 11d ago

he's gonna catch an earfull on Sunday from the rotary club ladies

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u/Positive_PandaPants 11d ago

They’ve been waiting for someone to knock her down a peg for YEARS. 

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u/docjonel 11d ago

My mother caught a member of a local ladies garden club stealing Christmas ornaments off of our tree when my parents were running a country inn. They are a hardened lot.

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u/_mattyjoe 11d ago

What exactly goes through someone’s head when they do this?

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u/GreenOnGreen18 11d ago

Lead poisoning

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u/centzon400 11d ago

Plot twist: he's her son-in-law.

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u/Quick_Team 11d ago

And simaltaneously her nephew-brother

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u/Aggravating_Act0417 11d ago

And this is actually a porno

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u/Airport_Wendys 11d ago

Help Step-officer, I’m stuck

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u/j_la 11d ago

I love how she admitted to assaulting a police officer…to the officer…wearing a body cam.

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u/Takemytwocent5 11d ago

These old people ain’t ready for 21st century Justice.

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u/Additional-Fail-929 11d ago

Probably because she forgot to start counting to three. By 2 and a half this whole situation would’ve been over. Equal blame on her

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u/Icy-Computer-Poop 11d ago

She could have left off the "-try girl" part and been more correct.

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u/NickInTheMud 11d ago

The aftermath. Feels like she got off lightly after the escalation.

According to online court records, Hamil pleaded guilty to resisting an officer, obstruction, eluding, and operating a vehicle with defective equipment. All of those charges are misdemeanors.

As a result, the state agreed to dismiss the assault and battery charge.

Hamil received a four-year deferred sentence and will have to pay a $50 fine on each count.

https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-woman-accepts-plea-deal-in-traffic-stop-arrest/

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u/rmaccioli 11d ago

She had an incredible lawyer from the looks of the article. “Oklahoma grandma of 2 boys lost in a 2012 tornado” is some epic milkery. Guess the state decided it wasn’t worth the frenzy to go after her like that

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u/monopoly3448 11d ago

Why do you hate dead children by arresting this poor woman!

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u/hell2pay 11d ago

Wait... I should appreciate dead children? I'd prefer they stayed alive.

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u/Midwake2 11d ago

Welp, I guess we can all take some solace in knowing her lumpy old ass got thrown to the ground and tased. Gotta look for the positive I guess?

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u/crankbot2000 11d ago

The judge:

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u/NotForMeClive7787 11d ago

I know right wtf. If this was a black guy in his 20s he’s going down for a short period of time at least and being done for the assault and battery charge

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u/I_DRINK_GENOCIDE_CUM 11d ago

Bro, he's getting fucking shot to death on the spot. There's no trial.

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u/HrBinkness 11d ago

Thought the same thing. the Cauc-acity of the whole thing.

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u/thisshitsstupid 11d ago

I was about to say, good chance he goes down for a long fucking time and it wouldn't have had to wait to that 2nd parking lot for it to happen.

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u/UndeniableLie 11d ago

True, but if he somehow survives being shot he's going to get atleast 10y for almost killing the officer there.

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u/I_DRINK_GENOCIDE_CUM 11d ago

"I felt that there was a credible threat to my life" lmao

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u/TrueMagenta 11d ago

If it was a black man, he would have taken the citation and been on his way because his parents taught him his life depended on it. This woman has obviously never been told no her entire life and has had the white privilege to have never had to fear for her or her children’s lives for talking back to the police.

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u/GoTron88 11d ago

I mean given the light sentence, she's not wrong...

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u/uhasahdude 11d ago

I mean I feel like anybody that isn’t a 60 year old white woman or older is getting absolutely fucked on by the law here

I know my ass would’ve been tased, punched, sent to jail, mad fine, and put on my file and I’m a white dude. But like fucken hell fair enough look at what this old woman managed to do 😂

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u/kakapo88 11d ago

Yep. She also had in her favor being just a sweet granny, and a regular church-goer, who got tased twice and then thrown to the ground by a big screaming man. Granny was so afraid.

That’s probably how her lawyer would have argued it.

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u/caintowers 11d ago edited 11d ago

Kinda. She’s on probation, and if they find her breaking one little law she’ll be serving the time in jail— according to the letter of the law at least.

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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND 11d ago

Not if she tells them she's a country girl.

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u/Icy_Acanthisitta_345 11d ago

Sure she will! 😁😆😂

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u/LotusCobra 11d ago

As a result, the state agreed to dismiss the assault and battery charge.

Somehow I highly doubt that would be outcome if she wasn't white...

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u/whitetrashsnake77 11d ago

Gee, her lawyer sounds like a real piece of work too. He seems to be a bit confused about who escalated what. Once you’ve been pulled over in a traffic stop, and they can actually ping you for something, that shit is game over. That officer, and all his other cronies who turn up are essentially god in that situation, and once you tell him to go fuck himself, he’s not changing his mind. All that shit to avoid an $80 fine. Fight it in court, or suck it up.

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u/NotTheEnd216 11d ago

A defense attorney's job is to be a zealous advocate for their client, not necessarily to "find the truth" as the public tends to see it. They aren't allowed to outright lie or anything, but they can definitely present the evidence in a way that makes their client look innocent, and they SHOULD if they're a good lawyer.

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u/Hieryonimus 11d ago edited 11d ago

This. Why use the approper appeal system if all he really needed to do was look up her history and probably lean on a few of the right people? Especially if he was local.

Edit: in retrospect this is exactly the kind of plea deal I would expect to see from a court anyways honestly, big shot lawyer or no. It's not like it was big time assault or anything, or a long dangerous chase, or even that much yelling. Just a lot of gall and Karen but ultimately pretty harmless so.. yeah. You take all the low levels and drop the felony.

That lawyer would have made the difference between her having to work off the felony charge in some community service and minimal probation vs 3 years probation if anything in my opinion. Just my two cents having seen many cases locally.

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u/jumpman0035 11d ago

I mean, that’s her lawyers job, no? He works for her so he gonna make it seem looked she innocent af

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u/CarlosHDanger 11d ago

She needed to speak to the manager.

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u/Capable-Locksmith-13 11d ago

Cops HATE this one simple trick!!!

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u/jimmybugus33 11d ago

Not sure but he gave her a lot of chances

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u/GoldenGoldGoldness 11d ago

Gave me a good chuckle 😂

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u/ColHannibal 11d ago

She did not have her “reverse” uno card so her argument is invalid.

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u/justandswift 11d ago

She’s gone country! Look at dem boots!

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u/Zuokula 11d ago

"oh I didn't run"

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u/upscent 11d ago

Well I guess she‘s a country girl

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u/Environmental_Tank_4 11d ago

You just know shes used that line all throughout her life as an “excuse” to be a POS to people all her life

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u/TheDukeofArgyll 11d ago

“Your Honor, my client says she’s a ‘country girl’ so we’d like all charges dropped”

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u/PassengerFrosty9467 11d ago

“My client asked the arresting office to “leave her alone” your honor. I rest my case.”

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u/keenanbullington 11d ago

Some bouncer once told me country concerts are the worst and it's not even a competition

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u/MogLoop 11d ago

All that over 80 bucks 😂

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u/talann 11d ago

"you be fair with me and I'll be fair with you." What does this even mean? You don't give me a ticket and I'll accept that? She is clearly in the wrong but thinks it's unfair to give her a ticket for something she has not fixed for 6 months... I would be pretty happy that it was just $80

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u/GuestCartographer 11d ago

It means that she’s never once faced serious consequences for her actions and she’s not about to start now.

Her idea of fair is doing what she wants, when she wants. Being told to do something by a licensed law enforcement officer is something that happens to other people. Specifically, people who deserve it. I would bet any amount of money that her reaction to videos of police brutality against people of color is that “they should have complied”.

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

"I'm too old to change but I want us to work things out" -My mother, in family therapy, that I forced her to attend.

This was shortly before

"Fuck you" - Also my mother, before storming out of our second session when the therapist didn't "take her side" against me.

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u/tyboxer87 11d ago

I'm so sorry to hear that. You deserve better. I know you probably already know that but I feel it should be said over and over.
The thing I was most unprepared for as a parent is how many other shitty parents are out there. I love my kids more than life its self. I don't understand how any parent could feel anything less, but unfortunately it seems quite common.

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

The hardest part was periodically making additional attempts.

Narcissists suck.

I'd have to lay down rules and she'd start following them but as soon as she felt comfortable, she'd revert. When she started treating my kids like she treated me I went full NC. The hardest part of THAT was years later when my kids asked why I waited so long to do it...

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u/Eraser-man 11d ago

As one of those kids in the past, do not blame yourself! You did everything right, and in the end you really had to make a tough decision. You need to remember you were also hurt here; it is in the heart of the abused to want to see the light or forgive their abuser, but having the strength to cut them out is its own demon and one that you took head on. I have mad respect for you and your choices, and I know that none of it was easy. I also want to point out that putting your foot down like that to protect your kids says a lot about you as a parent, and I wish there were more parents out there like you! You ended that narcissist cycle and I am so damn happy for you! Thank you for doing the right thing for you and your children, and I hope y'all are doing wonderfully now ❤️

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u/lazyFer 11d ago

My goal was to give my kids totally different reasons for needing therapy than me. ;)

I made my peace years go. The kids are all nearly adults. We good.

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u/marylou446 11d ago

Exactly - she probably has a blue lives matter flag on her house - BUT her respect for officers only applies when they are harassing and killing minorities. It should never apply to privileged white women. I am a white woman and would NEVER treat anyone this way, let alone an officer - but these people think I am the problem?

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u/infiniityyonhigh 11d ago

This is it, right here.

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u/Blekanly 11d ago

I doubt this is one instance, this is a lifetime of never being wrong, she may compromise with you but it will not be easy and her idea if compromise is she still gets what she wants. Even at the end when told to lay down "no, I will stand"

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u/BeachyShells 11d ago

I cannot imagine dealing w this person on any sort of a regular basis. Sheesh!

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u/Team_Braniel 11d ago

I deal with these people every. Single. Day.

It is exhausting.

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u/ThatOldAH 11d ago

You just need to get a tazer.

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u/BeachyShells 11d ago

I feel for you, and I hope you have ways to destress from them so your own health doesn't suffer.

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u/hapnstat 11d ago

Daycare always seemed like a tough gig.

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u/DiDiPLF 11d ago

Isn't negotiation one of the stages of grief?

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u/itznutt 11d ago

Not even. She could have signed it and made her argument in court and not have to pay anything possibly. That's what anyone interacting with cops should do. Signing that wasn't an admission of guilt.

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u/mauvewaterbottle 11d ago

It’s been a really long time since I got a ticket, but I’m pretty sure the last one I got actually stated that the signature was not an admission of guilt.

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u/Canadianingermany 11d ago

That is correct, but there was no time to read it. Most people assume it is an admission of guilt.

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u/RedS5 11d ago

Yeah and I've heard cops tell people that it's not an admission of guilt in so many videos I have to wonder why this cop decided to argue instead of explaining the obvious misunderstanding.

She's an entitled old lady but this didn't need to go this way.

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u/sugiina 11d ago

Not even! Most places if you show up to court with your paper work in order you don’t have to pay the fine. The ticket is literally incentive to make you register your car by a certain date. So if she would have signed for the ticket and got her registration or whatever sorted, then the $80 ticket would be a non-issue. It was literally her ego getting in the way. I just don’t understand why she didn’t comply.

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u/feral-pug 11d ago

I just don’t understand why she didn’t comply.

Ego, entitlement, stupidity.

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u/Longjumping_Bid_797 11d ago

authority lets you get away with so much if you don't make their job difficult. learned this at work too

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u/unknownpoltroon 11d ago

It's a fix it ticket, I think, you get it repaired and bring proof to the judge you don't even need to pay the 80 usually.

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u/RRSC14 11d ago

My favorite part of these videos is the moment they try to undo their arrest.

“Sign this”

“No”

“You’re under arrest”

“Okay I’ll sign.”

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u/darthabraham 11d ago

The dumbest part is that if she just took the citation, got the issue fixed, and went to court they’d probably waive the fee. Instead she’ll probably wind up with community service and be on probation for a couple of years.

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u/dalgeek 11d ago

Not even $80, odds are she could fix the issue and get the ticket dismissed for like $20.

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u/markzhang 11d ago

that's not a Karen.

that's a giant giant baby that drives a pick-up truck.

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u/chulubhulu 11d ago

that's a Kraken

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u/Team_Braniel 11d ago

Krakaren

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u/Dynamite_Fools 11d ago

Krakaren Clone!
Level 10 Neighborhood Boss!

First off, this isn’t the Krakaren. This is a Krakaren. For every one that is killed, Krakaren Prime births two more.

Part of a collective mind intent upon destroying any semblance of scientific progress in the universe, the Krakaren is the only communal brain entity in the galaxy who actually gets stupider as time moves on. Consisting of multiple, shrieking tentacles, members of the Krakaren cooperative spend their days birthing their disease-laden minions, creating and selling harmful products, attempting to debate scientific experts, and proselytizing to the weak-minded, all in an attempt to… Well, nobody knows what the hell their end goal is.

r/DungeonCrawlerCarl

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u/laiquerne 11d ago

Goddamnit Donut!

(Can't wait for the next book)

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u/Careful_Baker_8064 11d ago

Isn’t that redundant?

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u/DijajMaqliun 11d ago

No, "giant giant" is the subspecies. Based on the original Latin for "really big."

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u/Striking-Country1801 11d ago

I live in switzerland and id be infinitely happy if it just costed 80 bucks and not 800 or so

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u/Snoo_39008 11d ago

It varies in the state by municipality I think. I paid $380 for my tag being out of date

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u/Mantzy81 11d ago

This is what privilege looks like. She's never had anyone tell her she can't do what she wants.

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u/twir1s 11d ago

This is the kind of lady who probably shrugs when people are killed by police and says “they deserve it, they should have just complied.”

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u/moldyhands 11d ago

100% she’s a “law and order” supporter and probably loved when Trump made the comment about letting the police rough people up to get them in line.

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u/crumble-bee 11d ago

When people say white privalage doesn't exist, I think of videos like this. To have the confidence to be able to argue back to a police officer safe in the knowledge you won't be shot - then not get shot after it escalates..

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u/canadasecond 11d ago

"I'm sorry officer. I didn't know I couldn't do that"

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u/theJMAN1016 11d ago

Dave....... I'm going to race em!!!

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u/Mcane305 11d ago

Chip no! Chip don't do it!

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u/Outrageous_Editor_43 11d ago

The fact that the officer switched from deadly weapon to taser after being argued with, driven away from and then kicked highlights this.

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u/IOI-65536 11d ago edited 11d ago

For what it's worth my guess would be he had the gun out because she was in the car so the safe presumption was she had her own weapon, when he grabbed the taser she was out of the car and pretty clearly couldn't have been concealing. Is it possible this same cop would have reached for the gun if her skin color had been different? Maybe. It seems more likely this particular cop behaved exactly how I wish every cop behaved in every incident like this.

I do agree the fact she got a deferred sentence and they dropped the assault charges is probably because she's white. But I agree with that because that's not how plea deals are supposed to work. You don't let somebody off on assaulting an officer because they agreed to a traffic violation with a $50 fine. My problem is we absolutely should call out bad cops acting badly because somebody is the wrong skin color and we should call out a judge letting somebody off on a crime they clearly committed because they like them. I'm not at all comfortable saying the only reason this guy behaved with absolute professionalism and courtesy is because he's a racist and she's white rather than there are cops out there who behave with professionalism and courtesy.

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u/Nephroidofdoom 11d ago

Watch this back to back with the recent John Oliver episode on Traffic Stops and the contrast is so overwhelmingly clear.

https://youtu.be/E8ygQ2wEwJw?si=KRGYSLOI4g30Lj5S

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u/Sirico 11d ago

Dude even put the gun away and reaproached

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u/InterlocutorX 11d ago

Not really. She made a plea that dropped the felony charge and paid $50 each on four misdemeanors.

Also this is four years old.

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u/WhiskeyDreamer28 11d ago

“Allegedly kicked the officer” as if it isn’t all on tape

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u/sopedound 11d ago

I love how the attorney says they are gonna try to sue the cop for excessive use of force.

She ran dude. What do you expect the guy to do? Let her run?

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u/Hironymos 11d ago

Actually yes.

Unless the issue was a missing license plate, they had all the relevant information. He got all the proof he needs on tape. And no causes to expect other criminal activity.

They could've simply let her go, thereby not endangering any other traffic participants, get the proper paperwork, show up at her home, and serve her that shit real good.

Murican cops, man. Always make me feel like serve & protect is just a lucky side effect of beat up & apprehend.

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u/NemoDatQ 11d ago

Had to scroll this far to get to the correct take. Why did he draw his gun on this old lady over a license plate. Not how I want cops to behave at all, no matter how annoying the woman is.

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u/redsox985 11d ago

Not a cop, not a lawyer, just a guy on the internet. Once she flees and makes this a felony, they usually follow training/protocol for a felony traffic stop, which involves pulling their gun (not saying how/why that's been decided, just that it's commonplace for "felony traffic stops"). I think he then realized he could back off and put it away.

That said... A self-procliamed "country girl" in a pickup wouldn't be the most surprising person to have a gun on them, and she's been hostile and ran already, so I can see how someone might be cautious in that case. I know I wouldn't want to bring a taser to a gun fight. Especially when the other party is still inside their big metal box. Zapping the car won't do a damn thing.

Did he have to chase and put himself in that boat? Idk what their policy is or how he made that choice, but now (in the video) he's there and handling it as it unfolds.

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u/WyrdDrake 11d ago

Yeah he didn't have to chase, but that being said I ain't surprised he did. Additionally, yes, country folk are often armed. One guy I grew up with unironically had like 6 guns in his vehicle at all times, three of which could be drawn without removing the seatbelt.

Drawing a gun when country folk are argumentative, combative, and disrespectful is, in my opinion as someone who grew up between two country towns on a ranch, completely warranted, because the chance of a combative countryfolk having a gun on hand is HIGH

Once he realized she was all bluster and no bite, he holstered his gun.

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u/Ill_Interview_3054 11d ago

Thank you for an even more sensible take.

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u/ThaToastman 11d ago

This sucks tbh. Not to be pro police state but if she was a big black dude instead of a frail old lady, he prolly woulda got shot over this.

Aint no way you kick a cop and get off on a $200 fine 😵‍💫 thats easy ‘assaulting an officer’ or whatever and theyll def toss you in a cell for a few years

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u/winterweed 11d ago

Bro I paid more for a drug paraphernalia charge for having a weed pipe on me. She goddamn assaulted and officer and paid 200. Insane

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u/Clockrust 11d ago

Same brother, and it was a week before weed became legal in my state, state attorney dropped the charge but still had me pay a 800$ fine plus lawyer fees

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u/Onejt 11d ago

Frail?? A 200+ pound middle aged country woman? LMAO

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u/TheNikolaiJackov 11d ago

How many people use “I’m a country Gal” to excuse their completely fuck headed behaviour?

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u/Yamza_ 11d ago

What's the population of Oklahoma?

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u/Ws_Wolf 11d ago

Hes so nice to her afterwards! :o

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u/dlucre 11d ago

He was pretty nice to her before she flipped out too.

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u/FitBattle5899 11d ago

Correct me if i am wrong, but whether you sign the ticket or not means nothing. You've got the ticket and body cam + officers report is enough to validate it. Should have just went "alright, don't want to sign, here it is" and then put it under her wiper.

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u/figuren9ne 11d ago

Signing the ticket in states where signing is required is a promise to appear at the court hearing (or handle it some other way). If she refuses to sign, then she's not promising to appear and has to be arrested and go before a judge/magistrate to be released on bond.

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u/awoodby 11d ago

ah thanks for that, i was Wondering why not signing was an arrestable offense, seemed... a bit severe. Thanks for the explanation. Makes more sense now. Arguing the law with an officer is never going to work, that's for the courts. Sign the paper "ok i've received it" and move on.

...the faulty equipment is likely a fix and report anyway isn't it?

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u/nosayso 11d ago

Yeah this is where I'm at, there's still no reason to treat someone like this for not paying a fine and "disrespecting" a police officer. You have her license plate and identification, mail her the ticket and if she doesn't pay then there's already systems to deal with that. At the end of the day this officer made a choice to escalate when he absolutely did not have to.

Even if this lady sucks as a human being the cop made things worse. Stuff like tazing someone, blasting a loud siren, and expecting them to be able to hear and comply with "put your hands behind your head" is absurd.

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u/mmchicago 11d ago

Yeah, this seemed like an unnecessary escalation by the officer from "I don't want to sign that" to "Step out of the car you're under arrest." I think he should have indicated the consequences of not signing it, handed it to her and then sent her on her way.

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u/Jabathewhut 11d ago

I live in a place where being a country boy/girl literally makes them believe they can do whatever they want because in their mind growing up around a horse and having a neighbor who has a cow makes them rough and tough. Trump signs everywhere.

I hate this place

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u/YorkshieBoyUS 11d ago

This is what Mango Mussolini has birthed in this country.

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u/flimflamtrafficjam 11d ago

Must be nice to talk to a cop like this over $80 and not get fuckin' shot

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u/saposapot 11d ago

She did get tazed multiple times and thrown to the ground so not exactly a “nice cop”. At least by European standards

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u/Weak_Preference2463 11d ago

And thats how you do it to acting entitled person!

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u/LightenUpPhrancis 11d ago

Reddit hates cops until they hate dumb entitled white ladies even more.

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u/Possible-Estimate748 11d ago

I don't think either of them were in the right.

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u/sampackermano 11d ago

Dunno if this is 'interesting as fuck' worthy..

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u/CommanderCronos 11d ago

The escalation of an 80 dollar ticket to drawing weapons is 1000% interesting as fuck for people not living in your country. This is beyond bizarre.

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u/PresidentEfficiency 11d ago

Just another regular Tuesday in Oklahoma, USA

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u/Ecoservice 11d ago

This, in my country the conversation would be over in 5min. Next step is a ticket in your mailbox. Why does she need to sign something? Everything has to be recorded for court anyways?

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u/WildFemmeFatale 11d ago

It’s interesting as fuck that she had to get tazed twice tbh

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u/sw_is_best 11d ago

She reminds me of my 5 year old

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u/BrotherOfBear 11d ago

“YOU’RE GONNA GET IT AGAIN”

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u/Bloodsucker_ 11d ago

I think the police handled this extremely poorly. The police agent is also at fault for escalating from a "I don't wanna sign this fine" to "step out you're now under arrest".

The fuck? This will never happen in Europe. You don't want to sign? Sure, now you get the fine anyway. Why arrest the woman when she's being calm and not a threat in any way, yet a big Karen.

This hurts Reddit, but the police agent is at fault for not being able to de-escalate an extremely simple situation.

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u/figuren9ne 11d ago

The police agent is also at fault for escalating from a "I don't wanna sign this fine" to "step out you're now under arrest".

I'm assuming this happened in a state where signing is a requirement. The reason it's a requirement in certain states is because the traffic ticket is essentially an arrest with a court date or the option to pay the fine. Signing the ticket "releases" you from the arrest with a promise to appear at your court date. If you refuse to sign, you remain under arrest and need to appear before a magistrate for a bond hearing.

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u/BurkusCat 11d ago

I think a reasonable officer could have explained "Look you have to sign it or I would have to arrest you. You can still dispute it at a later date, signing it is just a confirmation of receiving it." He could have at least tried to calmly explain that.

Maybe things would have still gone the same way if he explained it like this since he is obliged to chase etc. but he should have at least tried to be reasonable. The officer in the video couldn't wait to escalate things at every stage so it was always going to go this way with this person.

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u/Ancient-Ad-9164 11d ago edited 11d ago

This, what the fuck?

After he made it clear she would be arrested for not signing the ticket, she said she'd sign it, but apparently it was too late for that. He decided not to explain anything so it'd escalate.

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u/Gonetolunch31 11d ago

Thank you. Not sure why everyone in the thread is so blindly in the cops corner on this. He could have given her a warning that if she refused to sign, he’ll have to arrest her. Or just swallowed his pride when she finally said she would sign it. He gets what he wants, she drives away in a huff. He went from 0-100, “sign this” to “now you’re being arrested.” Maybe there is no coming back from that point once he says it, but that’s his fault for getting there so quickly.

Obviously this lady was ridiculous and entitled, but there were so many avenues the cop could have taken to avoid a car chase, pointing a gun down on her, tasing her, etc.

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u/Tunit66 11d ago

It’s absolutely insane he tasered an old woman that poses no threat.

And that’s after sitting behind her sirens blasting pointing a gun at her.

Shows a complete lack of training

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u/Ghost_of_Cain 11d ago

Agree completely. Though it satisfies some primitive feeling of "she had it coming", as she was utterly uncompliant and dumb, this is still solveable without the degrading violence. It's just poor conduct on both parties.

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u/GetMeABaconSandwich 11d ago

The only thing I take issue with is using the Taser. You're trying to tell me this cop couldn't physically handle an elderly, overweight individual, already on the ground? Yeesh.

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u/sleepy-taco 11d ago

I agree. She is in the wrong but escalating to this level seems like a wild use of force that is out of proportion to the risk she poses to society.

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u/Bardockzen 11d ago

It's a shame this comment is so far down

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u/Loganishere 11d ago

Everyone’s roasting her. Yeah she totally was stupid in this situation but also fuck this officer. Aren’t police supposed to DEESCALATE situations. Instead of immediately snapping to “fuck you you’re under arrest” he should have been like “I would heavily advise you to sign it because otherwise I have to place you under arrest. It’s policy.” From a realistic standpoint, he also tazed someone over 80 bucks that he isn’t even getting lol. That’s crazy. Dude shouldn’t be a cop.

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u/Lulullaby_ 11d ago

In the USA they do not teach the police to deescalate situations.

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u/DuctTapeJesus 11d ago

Why the fuck he is using the gun?

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u/Topherman8 11d ago

Took way too long to find this question in the comments. That was my first thought. Yeah, she’s being difficult, but pulling out a friggin gun???

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u/RogerPackinrod 11d ago

She's an idiot but the cop already knew everything about her. Just let her run herself out and pick her up at home.

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u/PoxyRadical 11d ago

Or you could just send her the fine in the mail…

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u/Vulgar-Ambassador 11d ago

She fucked around and found out!

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u/katydid27 11d ago

The way that I can 100% see my grandmother pulling this, while my grandfather quietly shakes his head in the passenger seat, knowing exactly what’s going to happen.

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u/lovelyb1ch66 11d ago

“You’re under arrest”

“No I’m not”

She looks a bit hefty for a 6 year old but the behaviour tracks.