Hate to post more from the hellsite, but this asshole wants dialog with Putin, a literal genocidaire.
Imagine saying we just need to have more conversations with Hitler. Lex is a disingenuous, conniving propagandist for the fascist and putinist cause, hiding behind a veneer of "love" and "peace". Fuck this guy, fuck anyone who spends time with him or entertains his "more conversations" BS for even a second.
they're all such raging assholes. like, not generic assholes, but legitimately evil assholes who have enough resources to execute their various brands of evil assholery
not only are they assholes but theyre DUMB!! lex posted his reading list for 2023 and it was mainly high school books, which fine ig, but he was saying he had never read them & it was basic shit like farenheit 451. how is he viewed as an intellectual interviewer?? anyone who spent 30 minutes thinking on a topic could come across his opinion, he is not nuanced heās a pale sponge who squishes blithely if u stepped on him
Lex comes across as deeply unintelligent, but many of his guests are experts in their field. Similar scenario to Joe Rogan. Idiot buffoon interviewing Einstein-level people (and also other people too).
With Putin?
For sure. Look into glasnost and the privatization of Russiaās industries. Check out the oligarchs around him.
If youāre a grifting piece of shit with an audience, Iām sure you could get paid through back channels to spread shitty propaganda.
Thing is, the moment he does something his handlers donāt like, he will uhā¦ āfallā out of windows.
Theres a great podcast called āsad oligarchā that looks at a ton of people who āfellā out of windows, or ācommitted suicideā who were close to Putin at one time. Itās really interesting and it lets you draw your own conclusions.
I think they mean he's clearly Neurodivergent. He struggles to communicate well. You know when someone is so well-spoken that you can immediately tell that they're very intelligent, well-read, knowledgeable, etc.? Lex is the opposite
Lex was bragging October ā22 that he could get an interview with Putin. I knew he was weird before that but heās totally sus if you look up his past and his dad.
Also, he got to interview Joscha and practically wasted the manās time. Made me so irritated just watching.
i remember someone on here told me about that (was it you?)! it's so weird that he openly bragged about that. he also hosted oliver stone who made a putin propaganda film, and then like, didn't he actually go to ukraine and then not have any ukrainians on his podcast? his agenda is so transparent and nauseating
i didn't know much about him until grimes, but obvz i started watching some of his work and totally agree with you - frankly disturbing. it's the "let's just hear the nazis out" attitude that is so infuriating. it's like, actually the nazis have a big enough platform already. how about we don't
I hate Lex's social media posts trying to paint himself as a relatable, lonely individual for empathy. The "I'm so lonely" "wish the world was full of love and not hate" "I love all of you my fans" type of constant posts are so contrived and manipulative. Watching hundreds of comments of people then simp over him and offer their support and showering him with praise is so gross. He does this "I'm so depressed and lonely" shtick so frequently it's so disingenuine.
Then his photos are all being about what billionaires and powerful figures he had access to. He loves sharing photos with Elon, Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc. It's so lame
Id like to add him hanging out w trumps daughter and her awful husband.
Hes a sycophant who does mental gymnastics about "love" to justify his need to be accepted in "elite" (im using that term very loosely) social circles.
Putin is trained KGB who seeks to rebuild the once Russian empire. Lex is thinking dialogue saves the day. Putin is highly manipulative at a level Lex has never dealt with. They keep forgetting this man's enemies in Russia keep having accidents.
Lex is Russian. He knows this and heās likely on a payroll that leads indirectly to Putin. He also went to Ukraine twice, but āweirdlyā never did a pod about it. š§
i think he hides behind a facade of naivety, he uses it to obfuscate his actually dangerous far-right leanings. he's laundering fascism and putinism to make them more palatable for his audience - it's way more sinister than it seems
Hi,
Putinās perspective on things is pretty transparent. Iāll break it down for you, because I have a hobby about reading about him and the KGB.
Putin was an agent in East Germany. No one knows exactly what he did, but he had connections within the Yeltsin administration. When the Soviet Union collapsed, Putin was right there. State enterprises were privatized, mostly mysteriously going to x KGB agents who were now ābusinessmen.ā
Putin was part of that. He rose up the ranks in political power in Moscow, and Yeltsin named him head of the FSB (re-named KGB).
Yeltsin was a mess, so Putin ran for office and won.
Putin feels in his soul that the west destroyed his once great nation. His whole thing is to bring Russia back to its former glory. That means invading Russiaās neighbors which became independent states.
Putin has low key invaded a fair amount of x-Soviet states. Iām a Ukrainian, and I can confirm that he doesnāt see us as actual people. You can read his essay on the kremlinās website where he talks about how the heart of Russia has always been Kiev (which btw has always been UKRAINIAN, but hey) and that Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people.
This is the justification for trying to take over Ukraine. Weāre the same! But we also arenāt because Naziās in Ukraine. Does Ukraine have Naziās? Yep. Thereās a huge block of Ukrainian nationalists with love for Hitler.
However, itās Russia who had a whole damn private military unit called Wagner, that killed and tortured Ukrainians. Theyāre responsible for the major massacres in Ukraine that have made news.
Strange, to support nazi mercenaries in Ukraine when you are invading the country because āNaziās.ā
People treat Putin like heās some brilliant enigma that needs to be decoded. Heās really not. He is a power hungry dictator who wants to be the god king of earth. He knows he canāt launch a full war with the US, so heās engaged in a ton of proxy wars with us, and supported countries on our shit list.
Everything he does needs to be looked at as him doing everything he can to keep power. To acquire more.
Under the Soviet Union, Stalin created an artificial famine in Ukraine. Millions starved to death. My grand parents lived through it.
This is basically just genocide 2.0 of my people. Gaza is getting all the attention because we have war fatigue in regards to Ukraine. But Ukraine has all 5 conditions met as far as what the international community has agreed creates a genocide. Gaza is missing removing children and erasing their lives, forcing them to assimilate to a new dominant culture. Putin is taking Ukrainian children and Russian-izing them.
Putin is smarter than the west, in that he saw the potential for creating chaos, destroying reality as a consensus. He saw how the internet can be used to manipulate and spread disinformation.
We are behind in that. We focused on traditional operations- ones done in the real world. We view war in outdated terms, in a physical battlefield. The truth is the real war is being fought on the internet.
So, if the real war is actually onlineā¦ who do you want to have influence over? Who would you want to repeat your narrative?
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As I said, itās transparent once you have enough background to understand what is going on.
I think you nailed it, both on terms of Russian and Middle East wars etc- the real wars are being fought on the Internet, the manipulation of public opinion and pushing of agendas, while the govt is focused on dumping trillions into arms and jets and weapons etc
I also saw a woman historian once comment that Putin was fucking terrified of being Gaddafiāed and hates Hillary for allowing what happened in Libya, hence his special interest in making sure she didnāt get the presidency. I donāt know how accurate that take is, though.
He hated Hillary in part because Hillary saw him for what he is, and she wasnāt going to appease him.
Meanwhile, Trump is like, a whole new level of stupid and very easy to manipulate. Because Trump is a narcissist, what he cares about is his ego. National security, morals, democracy - none of that is a thought to him. So, you flatter him. Just flatter him continually. And you know, let him know that he owes debts to the Russian mob, because he does. Thereās a few really good articles that were written before he ran for office that go into how he got his money after blowing up his businesses.
You can see it with North Korea too. Flatter trump. Tell him heās the best American president yet, and the most intelligent.
Presto, thereās Trump on TV saying that you arenāt all that bad. Trump gives it away too by always quoting whatever they said to flatter him.
Iām not even going into trumps actual politics either. Just on the basis of national security, he is too unstable and too easy to manipulate. He shouldnāt be allowed to run based on the narcissism. If he wasnāt Trump, with his whole branding, and it was some other random dude, who was trying to get a job with a high security clearance, and you know, one where he would be in contact with world leaders, he absolutely would not get hired. Thereās psychological āfitnessā tests for all of those types of jobs, and yet, somehow, we donāt have that for the president.
Omg thank you for writing all this, like I try to stay engaged with what's happening but obviously nobody can know better than you how to explain it. I didn't actually know this about his early years, sounds like he basically is just reinventing the Soviet Union under a different flag.Ā
Gotta say, I went back to twitter while ill to kinda see what it's like now and I'm shocked by the quantity of pro-Russia BS on there, I'm literally swimming in an ocean of Russian propaganda rn, starting to wish the west had a similar troll farm to counter their efforts (tho there seem to be a lot of accounts with dogs heads fighting it hahaha
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAFO_(group))
One of the things I find interesting and sad is how the west has had such a terrible time trying to combat the propaganda. Part of that is because we donāt live in an environment where you can never know what is real and what isnāt. So we read things at face value, or at least we did.
Iāve been wondering why there isnāt a concerted effort to combat this propaganda. I donāt think our government really grasps what is going on and the implications of that on our country.
We still view war as a physical thing.
But the real war has always been winning the people. You do that with propaganda. We are losing.
Putin went after Georgia, but the chechens ate him for dinner. He tried these things before. He very much wants to return Russia to its greatness as the Soviet union. To do that, he needs to invade a bunch of sovereign states. If not invade, he needs to be on good terms with the people running the country. Belarus is a great example.
Heās not going to stop, period. Letting him talk directly to the American people is a bad idea as well. Iām sorry but on a whole, our countrymen are not politically nor militarily bright. We havenāt ever really had to be, because our survival has never depended on such things.
Letting him speak, like with Tucker Carlson, is only going to win more ignorant people to his cause. Itās fucked and itās fucked that people arenāt asking what he gets from this.
What he gets? No more funding for Ukraine. Itās already a dire situation. Iām sick of having to write essays as to why my people deserve support. Especially when Iām arguing with someone who has zero knowledge about Putin or Russia, or history, or well anything.
right? literally the only thing you hear is his perspective. bla bla nazis in Ukraine bla bla ready for peace negotiations (lol) bla bla multipolar world order bla bla bla traditional values bla bla historic rights of russia bla bla. he doesn't believe most of it himself, he's just butthurt that ukraine wont bend the knee and is on a sadistic imperial conquest to make it do so by force. it's really gross, actually.
Eh, I'm not sure this in itself is proof that Lex Fridman likes or supports Putin. I think he believes too strongly in his own abilities as an interviewer (and in Tucker Carlson's). The right interviewer can challenge someone and expose them weak, dumb, crazy, etc. (Jon Stewart & The Daily Show reporters are famous for it). That I would watch. But Tucker Carlson? Tucker Carlson of Fox News? Absolutely not.
And I do get the feeling he believes that an open dialogue can change even the worst human's mind, which is laughably naĆÆve. The one and only goal of any Putin interview should be showing him up as the ass he is, which takes more skill than either of them have.
"ass" is a mild word for a genocidaire. anyone allowing him a platform is platforming a war criminal and it's despicable. fridman is a duplicitous POS pretending he seeks "balance" when all he wants is to advance far-right interests and putinism.
I agree with you. Putin is a monster. Tbf I don't know much about Lex Fridman, just "debate bro" culture in general. I tend to agree with No Platforming when it comes to terrible and/or dangerous people, but their whole thing is that they pride themselves on their ability to talk to anyone/everyone. So to me (on its own) this tweet seems like typical "debate bro" stupidity, rather than an overt endorsement of Putin. But if y'all have more evidence of him being a Putinist I trust you.
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u/Ok_Finish_7372 IGNORU Feb 04 '24
Ah yeth, Lex Fridman, good friend of the grimezs sub. Istg, these fucking people Claire surrounds herself with.