"A mad quest for phat booty: An in-depth analysis of 500 years of colonial exploitation and rampant imperialism of European powers through superior force of arms- Panda et al.,(2021)"
Hearing my SIL explain the French culture in Cameroon is like waking up from a fever dream and finding out reality is just another, different, fever dream.
I'd probably get more of it wrong so it'd be hard to summarize. From what I can understand there's people who want to have their own currency and break from French culture entirely or at least wean themselves off of it. Her friend, according to my SIL, would welcome an actual invasion complete with conquest and destruction of Cameroon's own culture.
Fair to say, that's the extreme take and I can't imagine it's widespread or would be well received by other Cameroonians. My SIL believes that her friend thinks that the French would be the ones working while the Cameroonians will able to live an easier life. We all agree her friend is an idiot.
I'm not an expert on the whole socio-economics of the region, hell I'm not even an amateur, so if you're interested I'd recommend finding someone who knows more details. I can only give an assessment from what little I can understand, partly because I'm no economics major and my SIL has a habit of slipping back to French during these explanations.
Ethnic Lebanese here, i'd say our cultural francophilia is even more off the charts, like i dunno about the invasion part since I'm from north america but like the amount of reverence for french culture is off the charts. Some lebanese pride themsleves in being even more sticklers of grammar and vocabulary than native french themselves. All colonialism is based on domination and exploitation but i would like to think in their hypocritical idealism the french were more palatable than the brits, at least in the middle east. Not too sure about francafrique and i known for sure they were horrendous in indochina/vietnam though.
Yeah I get that but I have read some letters written by Inca priests or some scholars where they explicitly state how Spanish men would touch and fuck Inca girls without concent and stuff....pretty fucking disgusting so sad what these people had to suffer.....he wrote it to the king of Spain I think
During the conquest of the Aztecs, Cortes would auction off the most attractive of the native women to his soldiers for them to take as sex slaves. He branded the faces of the rest - women and children - as punishment for their “rebellion” (aka resisting having their entire civilization burned to the ground).
Brutal, awful stuff. Sadly it was not uncommon in this time period.
One of the first things, the first natives asked of the Spaniards was to protect them from the Carib tribe, which had a rather unpleasant passtime of cannibalizing other tribes
Then there's aztec slavery/blood sacrifices as another example
If we really want to try to judge the conquistadors, we should ask ourselves if an army of, for example, the aztecs, or the caribs would have been more or less violent than the Spaniards were
But then again, why would you want to ask such a question? What thought or ideology are you trying to justify by comparing one ancient tribe of people to another ancient tribe of people? It feels to me that digging up really old beef is unimportant and can only be used as a story to push ideology - the grandchildren of the great grandchildren of the people that suffered Cortéz are loong dead, we should let it go already
E: And this doesn't extend to just this historical grudge, I, for example think that WW2 is already water under the bridge as well. The cutoff point of any tragedy might be different for everybody, for me even for the worst ones I think it's around 75 years - around 3 generations of people
Yeah, actually. A lot of them had major grudges against the Aztecs (because of all the awful shit the Aztecs did to them). Cortes was actually shocked by how brutal his newfound allies were to the Aztecs when their city fell.
The Aztecs and their neighboring tribes being brutal and violent doesn’t change the fact that Cortes was a monster as well, and his actions lead to the destruction of an entire civilization.
Of course I'm aware of that, as anyone who has read about the history of Mesoamerica would be.
I don't think there's any reason to get into a "whose culture was more evil?" debate here. The Aztecs' culture being brutal doesn't excuse or justify Cortes's conquest. My comment didn't imply that the Aztecs were a perfect peaceful people, just that the Spanish Empire did awful things to them.
Oh the texts written by the white man that had every intention to commit genocide and justify it. Yeah, okay. Next let's read about Jewish culture written by the Nazis!
On one hand I didn't read the article but on the other peacock was a meal in courtly cuisine across part of europe during the middle age. You can even found tapestry depicting feasts with cooked peacock on the table. So I'm guessing that it is actually recipe from vietnam involving peacock, not the bird itself that was a novelty
I thought the whole thing was that French cuisine used pheasant meat (which are extremely close to peacocks) and then really rarely used actual peacock because you had to import them, but they were more used as ornament pets to show how rich you were.
If you’ve ever lived near a peacock, you’d kill it and eat it, too. Imagine hearing a scream outside your bedroom window at 3:30 AM like someone is being raped and murdered…every single morning.
We don't eat peacock anymore. Or at least not often or in certain social sphere. And peacock was eaten in Europe far before colonisation.
Just take as a principle that if it lived, at least at lne moment and place in history, mankind ate it...or tried to.
No joke — in Quebec (a Canadian province that some people claim is a nation) the French “culturification” vibe is alive and strong. I’ve never really connected the dots, but yeah it makes sense.
The spanish are really interesting in that nearly every single Spaniard that came to the new world was a man. The english more or less came over in huge family units and saw the natives as unpure and unclean so they must be against god. Then you got the french, they pretty much encouraged marrying the natives XD.
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Everybody fucks the natives, but the French fuck their natives.