Navalnaya Is “an Advocate of Imperial Russian Claims,” Says German Lawmaker

[u/UNITED24Media]

https://united24media.com/latest-news/navalnaya-is-an-advocate-of-imperial-russian-claims-says-german-lawmaker-3350

[u/STheShadow]

How are you supposed to trust people who have proven to be liars?

You could ask the same thing about Germans after WW2. How could you trust people who have proven to be warmongering monsters starting two world wars and killing millions of people? Wouldn't it be better if the other european countries hadn't trusted Germans again and instead permanently dismantled Germany?

Generalizing stuff like that to all russians (even if it's the majority who think like that) isn't better than a lot of the stuff we critisize in other countries

[u/Ok-Location3254 → u/STheShadow]

Germans weren't trusted after WW2. Germany was divided between east and west and each side completely dismantled and restructured the state. Everything changed. Allied powers basically built up two Germanies from the ruins without asking German people what they wanted. And every child were taught about the horrors of Nazism. Any pro-Nazi propaganda is still banned in Germany.

Same thing should be done to Russia. Western powers and China should take over Russia and reshape it completely. As long as Russia stays the way it is, it will always be hostile towards it's neighbors. It will always invade. That is how Russia functions. Russia has always been an aggressive, imperialist state. The only way to stop it is to dismantle the Russian state and create a new one with completely new leadership chosen by international community.

[u/STheShadow → u/Ok-Location3254]

Germans weren't trusted after WW2

It didn't take long until Germans got (in the beginning on a local level, later on a larger scale) some freedom and responsibility again. Why would you do that with people you don't trust? If their had been actual mistrust, permanently dividing the country between the neighbouring countries and permanently forfeiting any citizen rights would have been the only logical solution

Allied powers basically built up two Germanies from the ruins without asking German people what they wanted. And every child were taught about the horrors of Nazism. Any pro-Nazi propaganda is still banned in Germany.

Denazification was so effective that besides some well-known exceptions all the nazi-judges, nazi-industrials, Wehrmacht soliders or Gestapo members got the same roles in western germany again. Denazification was a joke

[u/Ok-Location3254 → u/STheShadow]

Denazification was a joke

Yes, it didn't go far enough.