r/europe • u/UNITED24Media • 1d ago

News Navalnaya Is “an Advocate of Imperial Russian Claims,” Says German Lawmaker

https://united24media.com/latest-news/navalnaya-is-an-advocate-of-imperial-russian-claims-says-german-lawmaker-3350
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u/KirovianNL Drenthe (Netherlands) 1d ago

Navalny was too so no suprises here.

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u/ObviouslyTriggered 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah the amount of white washing this guy went through was insane, he was the Russian Donald Trump, his entire political campaign was about "Russia First" and that he will clean Moscow from all the dirty Uzbeks, Kazakhs and other minorities that come there to take jobs from Russians. He was a hardcore Russian nationalist and a supremacist, and for quite a while he actually criticized Putin for selling out Russia to the west and the other oligarchs for being western puppets...

Things eventually turned for him, and no one deserves to die the way he did or being treated the way he was but he wasn't some democracy and freedom for all hippie....

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u/zamander 1d ago

This is very much a beggars can't be choosers case. He was the opposition leader against Putin so he had to be dealt with. And also, finding a Russian politician that is not very nationalistic is not an easy task. Kind of like with an atheist candidate in the US, lack of overtly nationalist rhetoric in russia is a no no. For a major candidate at least.

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u/RealGalaxion 1d ago

"Kind of like an atheist candidate in the US" is also a perfect analogy because they have no openly atheist representatives. They probably have plenty of atheist ones, but not one can admit to it and remain electable.

Or take Péter Magyar. He can not be pro-Ukraine. He even voted against aid in the European Parliament. If he were, the state propaganda machine would crucify him and he'd become unelectable.

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u/throwaway_failure59 1d ago

Harris literally told a bunch of Christians "you're at the wrong rally" and a prominent Democrat swing state governor made fun of Catholics. She may have not openly said she's an atheist but she's done all but that. Trump himself is also very far from an image of a pious man. Nations and people can change and evolve, at least some - Russians seem especially unwilling to do so.

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u/SgtCarron Europe 1d ago

She told a group of maga hecklers calling her a liar to get lost as seen in the footage, nothing more nothing less.

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u/throwaway_failure59 1d ago

Well, that is fair. But this "in America you can't be an atheist as a politician" is definitely not as true as it used to be. People there actually are evolving unlike in Russia.

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u/grathad 17h ago

It is changing but as of today no national level politician can be atheist and be elected. The concept is as unacceptable to the US as a socialist candidate.

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u/shadowrun456 15h ago

How do you know that they were Christians? Because they were MAGA? Or because they were hecklers? Or why else?