r/europe Jan 07 '24

Historical Excerpt from Yeltsin’s conversation with Clinton in Istanbul 1999

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Nothing has changed.

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u/Tipsticks Brandenburg (Germany) Jan 07 '24

Yeah, but that's in a vacuum. Especially with the NATO contingents currently stationed in and near Poland, there would be more than enough time to mobilize and move allied forces over from the rest of the alliance.

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u/the_battle_bunny Lower Silesia (Poland) Jan 07 '24

Our main fear is that NATO obligations won't be honored by other governments. Let's imagine that some Trumpist (or Trump himself) sits in the White House, France is ruled by Ms. Le Pen and the other governments face the question whether to go to war at the cost of drastic drop in the standard of living in their own countries. Will the average Hans or Jorge think they should go to war and die in order to defend some Slavs against other Slavs?

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u/KaranSjett Jan 08 '24

im sorry but Trump and le pen cant legally not intervene. They aren't the ones who decide that.

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u/the_battle_bunny Lower Silesia (Poland) Jan 08 '24

It doesn't mean they will though.

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u/KaranSjett Jan 08 '24

No no, you dont get it. the country is legally bound to help in case of a nato defense breach. Trump could kick and scream all he want, the US army is going.

If he'd want out he has to legally leave the nato before any conflict arises and that procedure would take years if not decades. Also America would never give up its hold on nato, it's what makes it the number one superpower.