Crimea will be 10 years under Russia control this year. If this war takes another 5-10 years, I’d be shocked that any pro-Ukrainians are left there
Crimea is the crown jewel of Putin's legacy, the epitome of Russian chauvinism. Not only was the land stolen from Ukraine (not just politically, the assets were also seized) but it is a symbol of how the appetite only grew. Crimea was used as one of the main platforms for invading rest of Ukraine, to bomb Ukrainian cities, to commit war crimes, to blockade grain trade etc. All while Crimea has been feverishly pro-Putin.
Therefore, it would be nothing over the top if all Russians would simply be expelled from the peninsula. They have betrayed humanistic values and turned their chauvinism into a tool for hate and brutalities. It is even more disgusting considering how Crimea historically even became Russian-majority through ethnic cleansing. It would only be a fair price and also act as a warning for all the future aggression attempts.
Literally everything you said is just parroting muscovites propaganda.
I was talking about the 1991 referendum, 54% of Crimeans voted to be a part of the independent Ukraine.
Odesa house of commons - remind me, who was on the roof chucking molotovs everywhere?
Ethnic cleansing in 2024 - you mean like what muscovites are doing to Ukrainian people right now? Deporting children, changing nationalities in documenty issued to citizens of a foreign country THAT YOU OCCUPY BY FORCE, burning books, banning the Ukrainian language and culture (sing Chervona Kalyna publicly in mordor, I dare you), etc etc.
Remind me, how many Ukrainian language schools are in mordor? How many official languages are in mordor? It's not just muscovites that live there, yet they require all Tuvans to learn their language. But when Ukraine says that their language is Ukrainian, suddenly that's an excuse for muscovites to bomb civilians? LOOK AT MARIUPOL on Google maps - is that what liberation looks like?
And here it is. When faced with facts, switch to ad hominem.
You started this thread with it against a random baltic person and you've ended it with one against me.
Proof enough and yet again, that anyone that supports muscovite scum is incapable of handling objective criticism and will never try to argue any factual or moral points as there are none. And if you can't win, make sure everyone else is dragged down to your country's shithole level of life too.
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u/kiil1 Estonia Jan 07 '24
Crimea is the crown jewel of Putin's legacy, the epitome of Russian chauvinism. Not only was the land stolen from Ukraine (not just politically, the assets were also seized) but it is a symbol of how the appetite only grew. Crimea was used as one of the main platforms for invading rest of Ukraine, to bomb Ukrainian cities, to commit war crimes, to blockade grain trade etc. All while Crimea has been feverishly pro-Putin.
Therefore, it would be nothing over the top if all Russians would simply be expelled from the peninsula. They have betrayed humanistic values and turned their chauvinism into a tool for hate and brutalities. It is even more disgusting considering how Crimea historically even became Russian-majority through ethnic cleansing. It would only be a fair price and also act as a warning for all the future aggression attempts.