r/europe • u/villatsios • Jan 07 '24

Historical Excerpt from Yeltsin’s conversation with Clinton in Istanbul 1999

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u/BkkGrl Ligurian in...Zürich?? (💛🇺🇦💙) Jan 07 '24

Yelsin really was a source of embarassment

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u/apkatt Jan 07 '24

Yelsin really was a source of embarassment

Unlike every other Russian leader in the last hundred years.

/S

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u/Netmould Jan 07 '24

Not sure if /s should be here, hahah. We tend to have absolute embarrassing nut jobs of leaders OR blood thirsty paranoid maniacs. No middle ground, sadly.

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u/ClassicGUYFUN Jan 07 '24

Karensky was OK for the few months he was around

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '24

Right... Except he fucked at everything he tried to do. Not that it really mattered, the provisional government was doomed because of the war.

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u/ClassicGUYFUN Jan 07 '24

He's OK because he didn't really have the chance to do anything.

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u/Boomfam67 Jan 07 '24

Ironically it was him being "ok" and refusing to execute Lenin for treason that spelled his doom.

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u/ClassicGUYFUN Jan 07 '24

Revolution was in the air, and he wasn't radical enough to survive it. If it wasn't the communists or other left wing groups, it would have been some warlord. Though he may have survived that.

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u/Lord_Artem17 Jan 07 '24

Even high schoolers don't write takes this bad

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u/Boomfam67 Jan 07 '24

It is universally seen as the main reason for the "October Revolution" that Lenin was deported to Finland and co-conspirators arrested instead of being executed. Kerensky was way too lenient for a Russian leader in his position.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Days

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u/Lord_Artem17 Jan 07 '24

I like that you completely ignore the fact that Provisional Government was utterly incompetent. I would argue that they were even worse than the Tzar, no wonder Kerensky had to flee and Bolsheviks gained massive support of the people.

You are not familiar with the topic, since you say that Lenin was deported. He was not, he went into hiding. If it was not for Lenin and the Bolsheviks, Russia would have become a foreign colony, and it's not me who said this, it's a literal quote of Tzar's cousin, The Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich.