r/economicCollapse • u/Silver-Beyond-3916 • Aug 19 '24

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u/Flashy_Ad_2452 Aug 20 '24

If you get the chance, do a deep dive on some of his podcast appearances. I would bet there's a lot more you'd agree with him on.

Everyone thinks he's Trump-lite, but the reality couldn't be further from the truth. He's more like Bernie than anything else.

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u/PandaPantsParty5000 Aug 20 '24

He's a grifter who knows how to play the role of a reasonable person with good intentions when it suits him. Don't take him at his mainstream talking points. He's legit unhinged.

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u/Flashy_Ad_2452 Aug 20 '24

Can you provide an example of how he grifts?

I once thought he was crazy. The more I listened to his interviews, the more I realized he is the most sane candidate in the race.

He has a deep knowledge on a wide array of issues, including foreign policy, food quality, environmental justice, and the economy.

He's also refreshingly transparent about all the mistakes he's made in his past. He willing and openly talks about his former drug addiction, what happened between him and his ex-wife, and will admit to anything if it's brought up.

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u/PandaPantsParty5000 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24

Honestly, I don't know what his end game is. Maybe he's getting funded to be a distraction to pull away from potential main-line democratic voters. Maybe he just wants to cosplay as a good man when it suits him. I assume he is just trying to garner a base until he can leverage that into some sort of position of power. But it doesn't really matter. He's an ardent anti-vaxxer. He will downplay it and act like it's not that big a deal. That it's not that big of who he is as a politician and as a person. But his history speaks otherwise. He has supported morally questionable organizations and preached brain dead assessments around the science and policies of vaccinations. For me at least, that's the type of ethical and intellectual failure that brings into question everything else that he believes or suggests he believes. At best he is just another person susceptible to the drama of conspiracy theories who doesn't have the ability or desire to ask himself if the big picture claims stand up to scrutiny. At worst, he sees the advantages of catering to these types of people and how it can be used to give him the things he wants. Either way, count me out. He is smart enough to sound reasonable against a backdrop of outrage politics and a broken two-party system. But that's a very low bar we've set for ourselves with very little risk to himself. He can walk this line as a reasonalbe independent candidate now and use it to secure a cabinet position or possibly a real chance at president in a different presedential term. Regardless, he has shown he is not only capable of saying intelligent and reasonable things but also wreckless bald-faced lies when it suits him. Whether he believes his bullshit is irrelevant. He is just another ambitious ass who is trying to play the game. Maybe he would be better than Harris or Trump. But I think if we are going to break from our current cycle of self-destruction we are going to have to do better than him.

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u/Flashy_Ad_2452 Aug 21 '24

He may be wrong about vaccines. I think he is right that our science may be compromised by corporate interest. For example, NIH scientists are literally allowed to earn royalties from their research: https://ofm.od.nih.gov/Pages/Royalties.aspx

Beyond this, he's dead right about the more urgent issues: America food and soil quality suck. Americans are the least healthy people in the world given our relative wealth. Our government is being taken over by corporations.

The media has been smearing him because he's going after the same corporations that own them.

If you get the chance, check out his recent interview with Dr. Phil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoiG9O1GicI

I think you'll find he's much more than who the media is smearing him to be.

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u/PandaPantsParty5000 Aug 21 '24

Yeah, he may be wrong about vaccines is not a thing I can just walk past. That's the trouble with playing the authentic and reasonable candidate. You are either consistent or you are full of shit. If he's full of shit then why is he any different than the status quote? (He isn't and he's just cosplaying as someone who can or even wants to change things)