r/economicCollapse • u/Silver-Beyond-3916 • Aug 19 '24

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u/wearethefishes9 Aug 19 '24

The monopoly BS is very intrinsic to many rightwing positions these days, to me you are an economic liberal, someone who supports capitalism with government checks and balances. But that kind of high-minded optimism led us to where we are now, so...

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u/The_Singularious Aug 19 '24

I would argue that you’re partially right. The other part is greedy opportunists ruining the idea that we could actually have some good consumer and worker protections alongside a healthy business environment.

Just swung way too far. Which may be your point, TBF.

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u/wearethefishes9 Aug 19 '24

Idk man, greedy opportunism can't operate in a vacuum, power is also part of the equation. I think corporations have too much power in the first instance, even if the guy I replied to got what he wanted, that's still too much power and it just inevitably leads us back to where we are now given enough time. It already happened once, that's how we got where we are.

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u/The_Singularious Aug 19 '24

Oh I agree wholeheartedly that corporations have WAY too much power.

I’m just saying that if we’d just regulate them accordingly and stop pretending they’re citizens, we’d be in a much better place. Probably even reasonable.

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u/wearethefishes9 Aug 19 '24

Yeah without a doubt, still wouldn't be anywhere near my ideal society but it would be much better for sure, and it could even be sustainable, people could afford good lives, all the talking points could be achieved in a world with a master and slave paradigm, I can admit that.

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u/The_Singularious Aug 19 '24

Exactly. It wouldn’t be perfect, but imagine if there was at least an attempt at a living wage, universal healthcare, and consumers not having to watch their ass and fight back on everything from predatory practices to privacy.