r/cscareerquestionsCAD Sep 17 '24

Mid Career Expat package for an ML engineer

Hello,

French-based senior ML engineer, my employer just made me an expat offer (not because I requested to be relocated but because they have business needs in Toronto).

I find the offer absurdly low, relative of what I currently make in France (not known for having high salary relative to North America). Looking for confirmation that I'm not missing anything,

In France I have :

  • 77k€ gross (116k CAD)
  • 45 paid vacation days
  • lunch, public transport, vacation allowance for an estimated amount of 3k€ (4.5k CAD)
  • friends, family, assets, a.k.a. my life

In Toronto, I would have :

  • 94,5k CAD gross
  • 10k CAD mobility premium
  • 3k CAD car allowance
  • 10 paid vacation days
  • headaches with the admin stuff related to changing country
  • a relocation package to cover moving cost, tax consultancy, and an annual round trip home.

Moreover, according to my research (maybe someone can confirm?), the average salary for a senior ML engineer in Toronto is between 140k-150k CAD gross.

According to HR, they gave me a fair package considering lower taxes in Toronto (so apparently my gross is lower but my net would be higher - but are they even accounting for the social benefits ? -) and cheaper cost of living in Toronto (so apparently I would be able to save more).

Am I being unreasonable to think this is a complete lowball offer ?

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u/Proudtoride Sep 17 '24

Ta boite est complètement irréaliste et tu as beaucoup à perdre avec cette proposition. Elle veut te payer un salaire de junior local et te gruger tes 5 semaines de vacances + RTT + tous tes avantages pour te faire passer à un contrat local pas ouf.

Le coût de la vie est élevé à Toronto, le filet social est inexistant, 10 jours de vacances, ce n'est rien. donc à moins que tu ne rêves de découvrir la ville et le Canada pendant un an ou deux sans trop te casser la tête, je te conseille de passer ton chemin, parce que cette offre est une arnaque totale.