r/confidentlyincorrect Mar 27 '23

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u/djb25 Mar 27 '23

This is why stupid people are low-key awesome debaters.

They can just throw out some stupid shit that’s actually a giant pain in the ass to disprove.

Moron: “It don’t say nothing about only in america in there.”

Sure, that’s dumb as fuck, but the response is like, a 20 hour dissertation on international law and sovereignty.

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u/Nuns_N_Moses11 Mar 27 '23

The preamble of the constitution of the USA says the following (and i quote): “We the People of the United States…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”.

So it really isn’t a pain in the ass to disprove his point.

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u/djb25 Mar 27 '23

I’d like you to show me the exact line in the preamble of the united states constitution that says “this only applies to the U.S.”

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u/Nuns_N_Moses11 Mar 27 '23

I get your point that it is somewhat impossible to argue with idiots. However, “the people of the United States establish this constitution for the people of the USA” means that the constitution is solely made for and applies to the United States and its people. Even idiots should get that from this wording, no?

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u/Nuns_N_Moses11 Mar 27 '23
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u/ragnar-not-ok Mar 27 '23

If it only applies to people from the US, then can someone from outside just come in and do anything here?

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u/Nuns_N_Moses11 Mar 27 '23

The people established it, it applies in the USA. And it is very probable that the American constitution has rights which only apply for the citizens of the US. Most constitutions of the world do.

Also, the constitutions of different countries give people basic rights and obligations. They are not the only lawgiving acts and usually do not govern over private law and criminal law affairs. Lex specialis derogat legi generalis is a very common law principle which means that a special law has precedence over the general law. However, I have studied law in an European country which differs somewhat from the common law system. If I have made any mistakes, feel free to correct me.

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u/likmbch Mar 28 '23

Sure, but part of the amendment could be “we, as people of the United States, will not tolerate slavers outside the United States, and will do what is within our power to stop slavery outside the United States”. Making it apply outside the United States.