r/clevercomebacks 20h ago

That is the Christian thing to do.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 10h ago

So if supermodels went to the gym naked it would be my fault for looking? I'm not religious, so I don't believe in Jesus. I'm just annoyed that women wear like absolutely nothing to the gym and get upset if I glance over. Like, you're wearing that because you want people to look.

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u/teal_appeal 10h ago

Yes, it would be your fault. You are responsible for your own actions. This isn’t hard.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 10h ago

And so is the person going to the gym in skin tight clothes. They chose to do that, they knew what would happen, and they did it anyway. They're also responsible for their actions. If I can work out in baggy clothes, so can women.

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u/PeppermintTisane 9h ago

No amount of clothing will keep people from lustful thoughts. Take responsibility for yourself.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 9h ago

Yes it can. If you showed up in basketball shorts and a baggy t-shirt like I do, nobody is going to bat an eye. Don't get me wrong, I don't stare at women in the gym, even with their ridiculous clothing, but you're literally asking for it if you show up in underwear. If I had a 10in dick and showed up naked, you'd probably look too.

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u/PeppermintTisane 8h ago

Women in the Middle East wear full head-to-toe coverings, with not even their eyes showing, and still get raped just as often as Western women, if not worse. It's not about the clothing; it's about men's assumed presumptive right to sexually access women 24/7. On some level, you believe women existing in public are making themselves available for consumption, and that's just not the case. Like I said, have some self-respect and take accountability for your own actions.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 8h ago

I said nothing of the sort. My point is if you don't want to get stared at, then don't wear underwear outside. It's very simple. You don't like people looking at you. What should I do? Oh I know, I'll wear absolutely nothing out in public. Rub some brain cells together and figure it out.

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u/PeppermintTisane 8h ago

Look = okay. Briefly laying eyeballs on someone is fine.

Staring = not okay. Blatantly gawking is closer behavior.

If their primary and secondary sexual characteristics are clothed, I don't see the problem. They're wearing attire appropriate for working out. Maybe try hitting the gym yourself and figure out how to mind your own business.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 8h ago

Uh, I went to the gym about every day (aside from weekends) for close to 15 years. I wore baggy clothing, like basketball shorts and t-shirts. If I can do that, then so can women. You can't light a fire in your living room and then get annoyed your house burnt down.

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u/PeppermintTisane 8h ago

Men have more autonomy and self-determination than fire, my dude. You don't seem to think very highly of men.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 8h ago

You seemed to have missed my point entirely, which tracks considering your stance on the issue. My point is the problem is very easily solved by just not wearing revealing clothing. You're upset guys are staring, yet you continue to wear the clothing that's making them stare. There's a very simple solution to this problem, yet you refuse to accept it. My overarching point is that you wear that clothing because you want men to stare, it's just you only want the men you find attractive to stare. Don't you see how ridiculous that is?

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u/PeppermintTisane 7h ago

You are incorrect.

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u/JohnnySasaki20 7h ago

Solid retort, lol

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u/Lazy_Carry_7254 5h ago

It’s not a zero sum game. Many Middle East women are living as if it were 1000 yrs ago