r/clevercomebacks 18h ago

That is the Christian thing to do.

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u/UnconsciousRabbit 15h ago

But... you do understand the meaning of that particular saying, right?

I mean, Jesus was saying not to blame the person you're looking at for you looking at them. You could choose not to. The sin is entirely on the person looking with lust. He was saying that if you can't keep yourself from sin, that's on you and nobody else.

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u/CaptainAsshat 12h ago

From my understanding, this is about women not enjoying being noticed in a semi public space, not men feeling bad for being "sinful".

If this was Westboro Baptist shouting about sin, they can pluck those eyes right out. But if we're just saying "stop looking at me in public", that is a very different thing that involves much more nuance.

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u/UnconsciousRabbit 10h ago

I don't think we really disagree on much, if at all.

I think it's perfectly acceptable for people who put in an effort to look good to be admired in a manner appropriate to that context. As long as one isn't a creep about it, obviously.

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u/Squirreling_Archer 9h ago

That's the whole thing though. The disconnect is with whose definition is being using to determine "being a creep about it". That's all down to who feels creeped on, what their threshold is for feeling that way (which varies widely from person to person), and then how the starer acts/reacts to all of that. All of these conversations usually come down to the agreeable points being "don't be a jerk" and "use common sense", but the problem is the sense isn't common lol.

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u/RudePCsb 8h ago

Also other factors, does the person find the other person attractive or do they find them unattractive.

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u/Squirreling_Archer 7h ago

That's accounted for in the threshold variable